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#2275330 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 29 March 2012 - 06:08 AM

I didn't see the game, but something hit me when I read all the comments about Franzen. I totally agree that he's more like a black hole than a valuable team mate. What's more it's dawned on me that his attitude is so bad, he probably wouldn't care if he's benched. Although I'd like nothing better than to see that happen. He.is.useless.

Good thing we locked up a perennial 27 goal-scorer who is quickly unlearning everything that had made him successful in the past. Looking throughout the roster, you'll see guys who bust ass blocking shots or backchecking, guys who make their bread on assists making their teammates better with little fan-fair, guys going to the tough areas to create dirty chances.

With Franzen, you get 27 goals. That's it. He no longer brings the effort or intangibles to make him an asset. He gets 27 goals from playing with Pavel Datsyuk, not from creating for himself. Passenger. Content to play only well enough as to not make it blatantly obvious that he has taken the money and security the Wings granted him just that, for granted.

Bench away. (Babcock will never bench Franzen)


#2275329 Nyquist needs to stay here

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 29 March 2012 - 05:51 AM

Because this organization loves putting young skilled players on 4th lines, with crappy linemates and limited icetime.

Too many players seem to have immunity on this team. That's why they take so many nights off. Lack of motivation and no need for accountability.


Well put. Players like Franzen are never made accountable for sub-par effort. I'm sure its partly to do with the Wings wanting to the avoid media drama that comes with benching a guy you have contracted for the next 9 years, but whatever it is, something has to change. There are way too many passengers on this team and Franzen is the primary culprit. On pace to match his disappointing totals from last season, and the excuses are running out and wearing thin. Zero effort and zero accountability.

I agree with keeping Nyquist-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi together. Franzen can play elsewhere.

esteef


Nyquist has been an instant success with the parent club because he actually works. Skates, creates, gives the defense fits. Datsyuk, and hell, even Bertuzzi looked like they could thrive with that sort of player completing that line. Add Franzen and Bertuzzi goes back to floating and Pavel gets wasted on two big bodies that watch from the faceoff dot as he does all the work. Holmstrom has looked more effective the past few games than Franzen has in a month.

For the love of God and Pavel, give him something to work with! Franzen can rest on his laurels in the press box, sit him close enough to Holland for Kenny to give him the stink eye the whole game.


#2275238 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 March 2012 - 09:32 PM

Pierre said that Babcock wasn't talking to the team during the 3rd period, only to the assistant coaches. Interesting strategy.

Worked like gang busters again! Seriously, I love Babcock and his silent scowl as much as the next guy, but KICK SOMEONE IN THE ASS already! Reminds me of being at the cell phone place yesterday: one woman getting helped, with her two sassy obnoxious friends just standing there, apparently just there to sorta gyrate and make noise. One had her kids and they were absolutely tearing this place up, running around, knocking s*** over. And what does she as the adult to control them? Shouts "what I say??" and goes back to her business. Doesn't do jack.

That's Babcock sometimes. He might as well replace the scowl with a brief over-the-shoulder "what I say??" before going back to his conversation with the assistants.


#2275232 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 March 2012 - 09:24 PM

So glad they scratched Mursak to get Nyquist 5:19. What a joke Babs. Gus deserved Franzen's time, Franzen deserves Mursak's.

Sorry for my language, but this blows myf****** mind. Prior to the game we were all lamenting scratching Mursak instead of Emmerton, but at least grateful that Nyquist stayed in. So what do we do? Play the guy who skates and creates 5:19, while giving the guy who floats and mopes 15:00.

Nyquist had 6 points in his previous 7 games. Before his "hiatus", Franzen had 3 pts and was -3. He was even more floatastic than I remember. Glad we got him back...


#2275217 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 March 2012 - 09:09 PM

Be embarrassed, Red Wings. Be embarrassed...


#2275171 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 March 2012 - 08:33 PM

Talk about cutting your coke with corn meal... Babcock is now shuffling lines to further dilute the play of his workhorses. Filppula with Hudler and Cleary... *sigh*


#2275154 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 March 2012 - 08:17 PM

Franzen is playing?

Its not the playoffs yet, he is waiting for playoffs to contribute. He is bored. :ph34r:

Mule is dead to me; empty sweater.


#2275149 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 March 2012 - 08:14 PM

why do players on this team get rewarded for horrible play, while others, such as gus, get shafted for playing with heart :ranting:

B-b-but... Franzen is the leading goal-scorer, clutch in the playoffs. Bertuzzi had 4 points last night. Hudler has a career high in goals./sarcasm

I'm with you. Passengers dragging down contributors. Might as well play workers with other workers, and let the floaters skate with the mites during intermission.


#2274969 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 March 2012 - 07:02 PM

Right. Like that was his fault.

Conklin, and even Mac sometimes, stands up or jumps to get high, harmless shots and it always results in a juicy rebound or pop fly like that goal. Howard does it too, but handles it softly and freezes it. Conklin titty bumps the puck and then plays "which way did it go".


#2274924 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 March 2012 - 06:33 PM

Great Edzo and "Hey Edzo" :P


#2274808 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 28 March 2012 - 11:42 AM

Don't like Emmerton in the lineup over Mursak. Nyquist will do fine on the 4th line, just seems like a waste.

Lets see how Mule does tonight. I feel like he saw the stat-padding going on last game and felt like he was missing out :P playing his own doctor, he finally decides to join the fray facing the same lowly team as the last beat-down (I'm being way to cynical, I know haha).

GO WINGS!

Red Wings 5 - 2 Blue Jackets

Zetterberg and Filppula with 3 point combined
Datsyuk with goal and assist
Franzen with a gimme off the work of Pavel.


#2274694 Z The Beast

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 27 March 2012 - 11:40 PM

http://www.mlive.com...rberg_re_1.html

Skating is the big difference in Zetterberg's improvement. The sore ankle that nearly forced him out of the lineup for a brief time a month ago no longer is an issue.

"We had that discussion (about sitting out), and then Pav went down, so that was out of the question,"
Zetterberg said. “It's a lot better than it was a few weeks ago, so hopefully it will keep going like this into the playoffs."

He said he managed his game differently when the ankle was bothering him.

“You maybe don't go into all situations like you would if you'd been 100 percent," Zetterberg said. “Also, it's been lucky, too. If there had been one more hit or tweak on it, maybe I had to go out.

“But the training staff's done a real good job on the healing part and I'm almost 100 percent right now."


From the sounds of it, Z has been nursing an ankle injury, probably for a good portion of the season. Looks like with the rash of injuries Z had no choice but to heal on the fly. What a guy... the bold part is pretty telling of the direness of the injury to Datsyuk, as well as the guts of Hank :clap:


#2274670 Detroit or Vancouver

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 27 March 2012 - 09:43 PM

Detroit, every day of the week.

Sentell, two things:
1) Welcome to LGW
2) Are you going to include a picture in every post?

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#2274651 Quincey vs. Stuart

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 27 March 2012 - 08:49 PM

If it was possible, the Wings would keep Stuart indefinitely. He's been a rock. If Stuart could get his family to migrate to Detroit, Stuart by all accounts would love to stay with this team and continue to enjoy high-level teammates and stability in a franchise second-to-none in how they treat their personnel. Unfortunately, it looks like the stars won't be aligning for the Wings and Stuart. It really is a shame. Completely understandable, but its gonna sting for both parties to end a great working relationship. I'd hate to be Stuart having regrets watching the Wings excel when he ends up in LA or San Jose.


#2274644 Nyquist needs to stay here

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 27 March 2012 - 08:39 PM

Come on man, Bert was phenomenal yesterday... had 4 assists & was a +5... When Mule Pavs and Bert played together this year, they were awesome


While I'm not completely hating on Bertuzzi, we need to look beyond one game. Bertuzzi last night was stellar; really strong on the puck, great passing, and skating. Last night, he was the total package. But that was last night. If he could prove to maintain that level of compete and execute all season or even half of the season, I would agree with you completely. However, he and Mule have had more nights than not where they are benefactors not contributors. Playing with Datsyuk when he is on is a wingers dream. Lately its been great to see someone who skates hard and is willing to handle the puck in traffic, and that has been Nyquist.

I agree with kipwinger, the tendency is to get high on the young talent and think they should be top-line, top-minute right away. Its also the tendency to see stats like 4pt, +5 from Bert or 5 goal nights from Franzen and say "ZOMG!! They are dominant and irreplaceable!", neglecting to mention the fact that they disappear for weeks on end, offering next to no intangibles when they aren't creating scoring opportunities, and their effort is often questioned.

Lets not get too high on the youngsters, but lets not confuse one good night for consistency. Take away Franzen's insane 5 goal game against the Senators last season and he scored 22 goals.