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Agreed, the responsibility of running the franchises which make up the National Hockey League falls on the owners. The players have no such responsibility. Because the owners accrue ALL of the costs and take ALL of the financial risks, they deserve a majority of the HRR. Once the players agree to that, the owners can agree to honor existing contracts, and we can all start playing/watching hockey again.

AFAIK they have already come to terms on the revenue split and the definitions of HRR, it's the players' contracting rights that are stifling progress. Obviously I'm not in the room, but that's what I get from the reports.

Nyquist is fine.

I had typed out a lengthy response but read your last line and realized you're not interested in an actual discussion. carry on.

I agree. Everyone who stood behind the players and said that their proposals were spot on cannot possibly be against the owners proposals to make whole based on the projected revenues. Hell, the players proposals were based on projected revenue. I don't think basing any proposal based on a projection is really fair, as both sides know that the future is not certain. Which is why when key points of the other sides' proposal is being proposed using "projected revenues", that side balks. The best thing that can happen at this stage is for both sides to take a 2 year break and let the league die.

This part made me laugh out loud. Yes, those poor poor GM's, who with their approval of their owners extended ridiculous contracts to the players, which the players then signed. The economic model of the NHL was not sustainable, which is why a cap was installed. The owners drove contracts up amongst themselves. Of course players (and certainly agents) were happy to take advantage of that. It's not realistic to think a player would pass up money for the good of the league, as if they gave up $3 million, the owner would use that money to somehow benefit all of the NHL instead of just putting it in his pocket. The responsibility of running a successful franchise ultimately is on the owners and GM's. We're lucky enough with Detroit to have a great owner who knows what he's doing.

that's not true. while the nhl hasn't given anything up as far as economics or contracting issues go here are some of the things the players have reportedly gotten -artificially inflate the salary cap in Year 1 so teams don’t have to trade or release players; - trade player salary and cap charges in trades (this is something both teams and players have wanted); -eliminate re-entry waivers - Increase revenue sharing with further increases as revenues grow, and the top grossing teams making the biggest contributions (revenue sharing is something Don Fehr is passionate about; wants it so the teams that really need assistance are assisted) - Introduction of appeal rights to a neutral third-party arbitrator in cases involving on- and- off-ice discipline (player-proposed wish) -Joint NHL/NHLPA Health and Safety Committee with equal representation by the league and union; -Establishment of a “standard of care” and “primary allegiance” obligations between the team medical staff and players (this is directly due to the tragic Derek Boogaard situation that remains ongoing); -Offseason rehab activities would no longer be required in the team’s home city; -Players have access to second medical opinions at the club expense; - Ice time restrictions and days off during training camp; -Improved facility standards in visiting locker rooms; -Ice condition improvements and standards; -More player friendly rules for parent-son trips, teams would have to pay for parents travel and lodging to first-ever games, other milestones; -Different standards for rent and mortgage reimbursements from teams; -increased access to tickets for visiting players and also a game ticket policy that minimizes the tax impact on players; -And also, the league has agreed to consider a player proposal for single rooms for all players on the road, which would be thousands of extra dollars spent on travel. Typically, players share rooms on the road unless you’re a longstanding player (600 games), or in a lot of cases, goaltenders http://www.startribu.../177160641.html now obviously these aren't as big as the revenue split or contracting issues but the notion that the owners haven't conceded a single thing yet is misinformed. i do agree that the owners contracting demands are outrageous and they should be willing to give on those neither side couldn't care less about the game of hockey as long as they get their money

Seems like almost no one can follow this simple concept.

Nyquist was hurt "along the boards". Last time I checked, that's not a scoring area unless Garth Snow is in net.

Hence my guess of 12:01 a.m. 12/21/12. Now that I think of it, maybe I should have gone with 11:59 p.m. 12/20/12. They sign to give us false hope. Oh, well. My guess is in. I'll just have to live with it. Not that it matters, the reptilians will just destroy the prize anyway. They're all Avs fans.