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As potentially valuable as guys like Johnson and Killorn might be to playoff contenders, contracts of that length and dollar value would not be easy to unload at the trade deadline, IMO. If either guy comes here, best assume he's here until the final year of his deal.

two nice reads https://www.nhl.com/redwings/news/horcoff-on-player-development-during-pandemic/c-319758672 https://www.nhl.com/redwings/news/seider-adjusting-to-life-in-swedish-hockey-league/c-319738308 not everyone is thinking Veleno will only be a third line center at best...

Killorn´s three years is the maximum length I would take on, we don´t need long term contracts for past their prime players. There is not a lot of teams able to take his contract and I´m not sure he would want to come to Detroit.

Yeah, no way Yzerman pulls the trigger on this trade. It would cost a LOT more than a 1st round pick (likely in the 28-31 range) to take on $9.5M in salary cap space over the next 3-4 years for two average middle six forwards... I think Yzerman will be targeting one of Johnson or Killorn, but like Rusco mentioned, it would cost more than a 1st round pick to take on ONE of those players, let alone two... If BriseBois is able to get one of them to waive their NTC for Detroit, I'd want at least their 2021 1st round pick, plus a 2022 2nd round pick or prospect of similar value. Yzerman holds all the cards in this situation. BriseBois has zero leverage. He has to trade one of them to get under the cap, or risk losing Cirelli for next to nothing. Yzerman won't be doing his old buddy any favors here. I was really hoping we could somehow work out a deal involving Sergachev, but it doesn't look like that will happen now after just signing that three year contract...