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#1 daft_davy

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 11:09 AM

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 11:15 AM

If Kenny could get rid of Schneider, I'd be interested.
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 11:36 AM

QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 17, 2005 - 11:15AM)
If Kenny could get rid of Schneider, I'd be interested.

Also pretty much the only way it can happen, unless Holland is willing to dump either of our younger d-men (Kronwall and Fischer) which I hope he isn't. Yes, Wade is better but he's also UFA next summer.

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE (norrisnick @ August 17, 2005 - 12:36PM)
Also pretty much the only way it can happen, unless Holland is willing to dump either of our younger d-men (Kronwall and Fischer) which I hope he isn't. Yes, Wade is better but he's also UFA next summer.

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I'd never trade for Redden unless I could sign him to a long term deal before that happens. Too expensive a player to rent for one season only.
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ August 17, 2005 - 11:48AM)
I'd never trade for Redden unless I could sign him to a long term deal before that happens. Too expensive a player to rent for one season only.

True, but he's also a guy that will be highly sought after as one of the top two impending UFA defensemen (he and Chara) and may want to test his value on the market. It would probably take $5M+ to keep him from testing the market where he likely could get upwards of $6M.

Schneider would have to go somewhere but I don't really think he makes sense in a trade with Ottawa. Datsyuk + Schneider for Redden is too much, but I doubt they'd toss in Havlat to balance it out. tongue.gif That would be an absolute KILLING if Holland pulled that trade off. Odds are we'd have to dump Schneider elsewhere. And once you start having to line up multiple trade partners it can get sticky.

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 12:25 PM

i don't think he is worth 6M as a free agent, but sadly, that is what he will probably get.
2 time all-star, appearances on Canada's world cup and olympic teams (i think),
good for 40 points a year....
i'd say he's worth $5M max. but.....he'll probably get much more.



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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:09 PM

What do you guys think of....

Redden/Spezza for Datsyuk/Kronwall?

-Both teams get proven stars and both teams get potential

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:14 PM

QUOTE (Barnes52 @ August 17, 2005 - 02:09PM)
What do you guys think of....

Redden/Spezza for Datsyuk/Kronwall?

-Both teams get proven stars and both teams get potential

We'd have to add at least a 1st round pick with that to get Spezza I'd think.
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:16 PM

More realistic: Redden/Spezza for Datsyuk/Zetterberg

I would take the chance and make the trade of Datsyuk for Redden in a heartbeat.

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:17 PM

QUOTE (Barnes52 @ August 17, 2005 - 01:09PM)
What do you guys think of....

Redden/Spezza for Datsyuk/Kronwall?

Why would Ottawa trade Spezza? He's making next to nothing at this point in terms of salary, and he had around 80 points two seasons ago... crazy.gif

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE (norrisnick @ August 17, 2005 - 01:08PM)
True, but he's also a guy that will be highly sought after as one of the top two impending UFA defensemen (he and Chara) and may want to test his value on the market. It would probably take $5M+ to keep him from testing the market where he likely could get upwards of $6M.

Schneider would have to go somewhere but I don't really think he makes sense in a trade with Ottawa. Datsyuk + Schneider for Redden is too much, but I doubt they'd toss in Havlat to balance it out. tongue.gif That would be an absolute KILLING if Holland pulled that trade off. Odds are we'd have to dump Schneider elsewhere. And once you start having to line up multiple trade partners it can get sticky.

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I think $6 M is a bit more than he can command, but who knows with the contracts signed recently by other defensemen. Detroit could afford him at $5 M next season. I agree that Schneider likely wouldn't interest Ottawa.
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:21 PM

QUOTE (Barnes52 @ August 17, 2005 - 02:09PM)
What do you guys think of....

Redden/Spezza for Datsyuk/Kronwall?

-Both teams get proven stars and both teams get potential

I don't think Ottawa will trade Spezza, he's the next big thing. He'll have a breakout season this year.
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:24 PM

QUOTE (Magus Relmyn @ August 17, 2005 - 02:17PM)
QUOTE (Barnes52 @ August 17, 2005 - 01:09PM)
What do you guys think of....

Redden/Spezza for Datsyuk/Kronwall?

Why would Ottawa trade Spezza? He's making next to nothing at this point in terms of salary, and he had around 80 points two seasons ago... crazy.gif

Not in the NHL he didn't. He's had 55 pts in the NHL, but the Senators have taken it slowly with this guy. He's coming off a great season in the AHL, and he's much better now than two years ago.
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#14 Motion

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:32 PM

And throw in Chris Neil and it would be interesting.

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:36 PM

4th Period

Ottawa Citizen reporting players likely on the way out, Redden more than likely the odd man out. Wings are first team mentioned in interests.

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:36 PM

don't we have to trade for him though?


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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE (WhiteLightning91 @ August 17, 2005 - 03:36PM)
don't we have to trade for him though?

Trade for him, sign him to a long term deal, and make room under the cap.

Not likely.
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (rick zombo @ August 17, 2005 - 02:37PM)
Trade for him, sign him to a long term deal, and make room under the cap.

Not likely.

thats what i was thinking, mite as well have seen this on Eklunds page.


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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:41 PM

I wouldn't do it either way, would rather keep Datsyuk. Isn't Redden scheduled to make 3.75m anyway? Just pay Datsyuk that if you're willing to take on that type of contract.
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Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:42 PM

Wade Redden $3.724 million


...Redden, unless we unload Schneider somehow, is going to be impossible...

Edited by WhiteLightning91, 17 August 2005 - 01:43 PM.



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