Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 Billups scored a career high 37 points, while adding 9 assists. And only 1 TO. I was also impressed with Carlos Delfino, 7 points and 2 offensive rebounds in just over 13 minutes. But Flip seriously has trust issues with our bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hito 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 well, in some cases I think it is a trust issue (*cough* darko *cough*), but I think it's as much that we have five starters who are excellent and can all play a lot of minutes every night. I've seen flip give quality minutes to Dyce, Evans, and Arroyo. He's a little more stingy with delfino, but the kid is definately proing himself. We've just got too many people who can play too many minutes to work them into the game as muich as we'd like. I've been pleased with our bench this year and can't think the Flip is any less so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 Billups scored a career high 37 points, while adding 9 assists. And only 1 TO. I was also impressed with Carlos Delfino, 7 points and 2 offensive rebounds in just over 13 minutes. But Flip seriously has trust issues with our bench. More like he didn't want to have back to back loses. He's giving people, what he calls, "heat of the battle minutes" and they are producing numbers. The only two people he shouldn't trust is Arroyo (HUNTER GET BACK SOON) and Darko. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) Billups scored a career high 37 points, while adding 9 assists. And only 1 TO. I was also impressed with Carlos Delfino, 7 points and 2 offensive rebounds in just over 13 minutes. But Flip seriously has trust issues with our bench. More like he didn't want to have back to back loses. He's giving people, what he calls, "heat of the battle minutes" and they are producing numbers. The only two people he shouldn't trust is Arroyo (HUNTER GET BACK SOON) and Darko. I saw Ben, Dale Davis, Lindsey and Prince at Friday's near OU after the game (nothing new, they usually go there after home games), but one of the screaming girls at the table next to us yelled and asked when Lindsey was coming back and he said "pretty soon". Edited January 4, 2006 by Heaton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 Good. I hate Arroyo...although he is still going to get more minutes than Lindsey. I'm hoping that will change come playoff time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnogrodnickfanclub 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2006 dang man...the pistons suck...i'm gonna go watch the atlanta hawks now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted January 8, 2006 Well I tell you what does suck, Billups and Ben already showing signs that they are suffering from fatigue. Flip must use our bench more, and that means more Dale Davis. I want to see him have a major increase in court time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 8, 2006 Lose a game and the whole world is falling. Never changes with you guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnogrodnickfanclub 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2006 Lose a game and the whole world is falling. Never changes with you guys. don't try putting on a brave front... you know just as well as the rest of us that's it's OVER. the pistons are DONE. i will be genuinely stunned if they win another game this season. bah! i've had it with the pistons! i can't take all the losing!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnogrodnickfanclub 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2006 Well I tell you what does suck, Billups and Ben already showing signs that they are suffering from fatigue. Flip must use our bench more, and that means more Dale Davis. I want to see him have a major increase in court time. actually, chauncey and ben aren't playing any more than they did last season... last season chauncey: 35.8 minutes per game ben: 36.1 minutes per game this season chauncey: 35.8 minutes per game ben: 36.7 minutes per game they should be ok, really... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 9, 2006 Lose a game and the whole world is falling. Never changes with you guys. don't try putting on a brave front... you know just as well as the rest of us that's it's OVER. the pistons are DONE. i will be genuinely stunned if they win another game this season. bah! i've had it with the pistons! i can't take all the losing!!!!!! That's a wee bit to much sarcasm... The only starter playing more minutes this year is Tayshaun last time I checked btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 10, 2006 Know what is scary? The Pistons are ninth in the league in averaging 99.3 PPG. "But evaluating Detroit has the opposite problem that we discussed with evaluating Phoenix: The Pistons walk it up the court nearly every possession and routinely grind the clock down to single digits before shooting. As a result, the Pistons are the league's second slowest-paced team at 88.6 possessions per game -- only Memphis is slower. And looking at the league Pace Factor standings, you'll see that they use nearly 10 possessions per game fewer than the Suns." New stats show Suns excel on D, Pistons on offense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted January 10, 2006 I've been following the efficiency stats for offense and defense, and it's been like that all season. Detroit has the highest offensive efficiency of any team in the NBA. The defense has been middle of the pack. Phoenix, meanwhile, has the 2nd best defensive efficiency in the league! Funny how things change when you factor in pace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 10, 2006 They haven't changed the pace though, they are the second slowest team in the NBA in getting up the court. If they quickened the pace even more they could be averaging 110 PPG no problem. I think they still like to grind it out for a little and then put them away. I would like them to stop being so damn lazy against teams they should beat and go for their throat right from the get-go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted January 11, 2006 Carlos Arroyo got ejected and will miss one game through suspension. I guess this will please dallas27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted January 11, 2006 They haven't changed the pace though, they are the second slowest team in the NBA in getting up the court. If they quickened the pace even more they could be averaging 110 PPG no problem. I think they still like to grind it out for a little and then put them away. I would like them to stop being so damn lazy against teams they should beat and go for their throat right from the get-go. What I meant was, the offensive and defensive ratings change when you factor in pace. The team that scores the most points per game is not necessarily playing the best offense, as these stats reveal. Detroit is the 2nd slowest paced team in the NBA right now. That's about where they were last year. They don't want to change that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted January 11, 2006 Carlos Arroyo got ejected and will miss one game through suspension. I guess this will please dallas27 Has an official announcement been made about a suspension? The Pistons are going to need a backup point guard tomorrow night at San Antonio! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 11, 2006 (edited) Carlos Arroyo got ejected and will miss one game through suspension. I guess this will please dallas27 HAHA, indeed it did. He's still making some stupid decisions and it usually costs the Pistons some points. I don't know what it is about him but I just don't like him. I used to like the guy but the more I watch him the more I cringe. As for Thursday they are going to most likely have to have Rip switch to the 1 spot and put Delfino or 'Mo Evans in at #2 when Chauncey needs to rest which I would actually prefer over Rip at 2 and Arroyo at 1. *edit* I didn't watch most of last nights game cuz my buddies came over but I guess Arroyo hit ben in the face with a pass!! How freakin' sweet is he!?!? Edited January 11, 2006 by dallas27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 11, 2006 (edited) Talk about getting Paul Pierce over at the Pistons.com message board...few are suggesting Rip + Darko for Paul Pierce and some other guy. Good idea? Paul Pierce is a hell of a player but I'd hate to see Rip go. Maybe Tayshaun + Darko + pick for Pierce + "other guy" http://pistons.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a...41/m/1531090263 Ben Sheed Pierce Hamilton Billups some convincing arguements but... Edited January 11, 2006 by dallas27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnogrodnickfanclub 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2006 Talk about getting Paul Pierce over at the Pistons.com message board...few are suggesting Rip + Darko for Paul Pierce and some other guy. Good idea? Paul Pierce is a hell of a player but I'd hate to see Rip go. Maybe Tayshaun + Darko + pick for Pierce + "other guy" http://pistons.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a...41/m/1531090263 Ben Sheed Pierce Hamilton Billups some convincing arguements but... i REALLY don't like the idea of letting any of our staring five go unless it starts to falter. i SORTA warmed to the idea of that KG/Rasheed trader ealier...but i'm not as keen on this Rip/Pierce trade. Why? Pierce is TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE on the defensive end. He couldn't defend ME if his life and the lives of his loved ones depended on it! Awful! I can't even describe how awful he is in his own end. It's laughable!!!! Plus...he's usually a streaky player on the offensive end. I mean, so is Rip sometimes...but I think Rip is slighly more dependable than Pierce (even if a streaking Pierce is far more prolific than Rip). At least I can count on Rip i his own end...he's relentless... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 11, 2006 From what I've read on the Pistons.com board everything is quite the opposite of what you stated. The general consenses is that Pierce is a better defender (bigger so more suited to guard bigger guards) and a better, more consistent scorer. He does however turn the ball over more than Rip. I'd rather not see Rip leave, so don't get me wrong, he's got the best jumper in the game right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnogrodnickfanclub 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2006 From what I've read on the Pistons.com board everything is quite the opposite of what you stated. The general consenses is that Pierce is a better defender (bigger so more suited to guard bigger guards) and a better, more consistent scorer. He does however turn the ball over more than Rip. hmmm...that's not the impression i've gotten... granted, i see the celtics on tv maybe 3 times a year...but when i do see them on tv, of course, i focus on paul pierce. when i've watched him...his ability in his own end is nothing short of comedy. not good...really not good. and from an article i read least year in the boston herald...the say his defensive abilities having been slipping the last four years. why was i reading the boston herald? well...i used to play fantasy basketball until i stopped this year. and one of the sites i go to for updates always has a link to the article that mentioned this or that. pierce was on my team last year...and that's where i read the bit about his defense slipping over the last four years. as for his consistency...i'm going straight from my fantasy team last year and the year before...he's streaky. however...i just looked at his numbers for this season game-by-game...he's been amazingly consistent this year!!!!! i gotta give him that! he's been a monster this year... i'd still rather keep rip unless someone can convince me with footage or articles that pierce's defense is good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 13, 2006 Rip at 1 spot and Delfino at 2 Never second guess my Pistons knowledge....NEVER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted January 13, 2006 Carlos Arroyo got ejected and will miss one game through suspension. I guess this will please dallas27 Can they permanently suspend him from the team? Guess I'm not a big Arroyo fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted January 13, 2006 Total butt-whipping of the Spurs - in their house! Have to say i thoroughly enjoyed that one - I couldn't believe they were already up by 20 when I got home from work! Only 68 pts scored by the Duncan and co. Damn - why couldn't we have smoked them like that just one more time last June???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
