Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted January 12, 2007 rumours abound that the Flyers are looking to off load the young D Pitkanen for some veteran leadership on their blueline. If this is the case I think we should make a play for him, this may take us offering Schneider but in the long term I feel that the Wings would benefit by it. We have some good blueliners coming thru the minors but Pitkanen is a first line D and I'm not sure if any of our guys are ready for this role next year, as he would be. I know he is having a bad year, but so are all Flyers!! Also we could test the water and see if they are willing to offload Fedoruk/Eager as part of the deal. Not sure what it would cost us but if you don't ask........ Schneider Lilja/ Norton Meech...........Pitkanen Eager/Fedoruk .......? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted January 12, 2007 Pitkanen would cost us much more than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mighty Wings 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2007 howard or filppula is the starting point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted January 13, 2007 Wouldnt be terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted January 13, 2007 Hmm, Pitkanen has a lot of potential of being a top defensemen. Don't let his stats fool you, he's better that what it shows right now. He gets a lot of ice time, and since the Flyers are horrible, his stats are not going to look very good. If he gets to a better team, I think he'll play better. I just don't know who we'd give up for him. I'm totally against trading Schneider, and now Kronwall is finally playing up to expectations. Of course we can say Lilja, but then Pitkanen would be the odd man out, and that won't help him at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howe's Bony Elbow 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2007 Defence isn't a problem for us. We need a top forward. Gagne is unattainable, pass on Forsberg and his bad health, they won't trade their kids. That leaves Mike Knuble, who's got a fat contract. Which all means: No Flyers headed to Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted January 13, 2007 (edited) rumours abound that the Flyers are looking to off load the young D Pitkanen for some veteran leadership on their blueline. If this is the case I think we should make a play for him, this may take us offering Schneider but in the long term I feel that the Wings would benefit by it. We have some good blueliners coming thru the minors but Pitkanen is a first line D and I'm not sure if any of our guys are ready for this role next year, as he would be. I know he is having a bad year, but so are all Flyers!! Also we could test the water and see if they are willing to offload Fedoruk/Eager as part of the deal. Not sure what it would cost us but if you don't ask........ Schneider Lilja/ Norton Meech...........Pitkanen Eager/Fedoruk .......? I think by "veteran leadership", they would mean someone around 29-30 years old...you know, someone experienced who still has alot of quality miles left in him. What the hell sense would it make for a losing team to trade for Schneider, who they essentially could only have for the rest of the year? Come on, use some logic man! Now its a moot point anyway because theres no way in hell Schnieder will be traded, but if he was, the only teams that would be realistic options are playoff teams in the East looking for an offensive defenseman Depending on the status of his face, Fedoruk would be the most obvious choice to go after. But if hes not able to fight..then theres no point. Edited January 13, 2007 by Lou_Siffer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted January 13, 2007 I think by "veteran leadership", they would mean someone around 29-30 years old...you know, someone experienced who still has alot of quality miles left in him. What the hell sense would it make for a losing team to trade for Schneider, who they essentially could only have for the rest of the year? Come on, use some logic man! Now its a moot point anyway because theres no way in hell Schnieder will be traded, but if he was, the only teams that would be realistic options are playoff teams in the East looking for an offensive defenseman Depending on the status of his face, Fedoruk would be the most obvious choice to go after. But if hes not able to fight..then theres no point. I read a piece on Fedoruk recently and he didn't appear to be worried at all. "Bones heal just as strong if not stronger" he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut4L1FE 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2007 Defence isn't a problem for us. We need a top forward. I agree. Our D is one of the best in the league. What we really need is someone who can protect our premier guys. One guy that comes to mind is Avery. I wouldn't have said this last year, but he's really matured this season. He's someone who can rattle the opponent, protect the Eurotwins, and score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asia13 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2007 Fedoruk would be great! Holland has stated previously that he would love to have a tough guy with some skill..well here it is IMHO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCrossbar 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2007 Tim Panaccio of the Philly Inquirer said that he doesn't think Pitkanen is ever going to "get it". I haven't seen a lot of Pitkanen this season, but I thought that he'd already gotten it. I guess he's taken a step back this season, but I think it's pretty dumb to trade a young player because he's struggling. And throw in the fact that it's a last place team, it makes even less sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted January 14, 2007 I suppose it's how long we are going to rely on our senior vets then. I'm not saying get rid for rid sake just that if a talent like Pitkanen is available we should seriously see what it takes to get him. The guy is only 23 and he is a very real number 1 pairing guy with the output to back it up. So far his 101 points in 191 games incl post season isn't too shabby and many a forward would like them. Our 2 guys that are the future of our blueline in those states are yet to really convince the majority that they will be Nic's successor. Kronner has 24 in 88 and Lebda who by all accounts is a second pairing at best has 23 in 92 games. My own view is that Kronner is getting 5+ mins more than Lebs but not using it any better than Lebda would. Our successor to Lids is currently playing in Kitchener and he will be a very good player for us I have no doubt. But he will need a year to bed in, more than likely next year, and by the end of that I think Nic will be calling it a day. Getting in someone like Pitkanen will give us the scoring we need on the blueline whilst the likes of Kronner and Lebda continue to grow. After all our D is okay, but we can't afford to stand still and watch other teams catch us in that department. We need to keep it strong and stay ahead. Afterall Cheli is 45 this month, Schneider is 38 this year and Nic hits 37 in April. Add to that the fact that Lilja and Markov are both over 30 as well, and we ain't as young on the blueline as we want to be. Just my views on the matter and I know the old saying if it ain't broke don't fix it come's to mind but having a good service now and then also helps alot too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut4L1FE 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2007 You have a valid point there, Andy Pred 48. But I would rather address that in the off-season. I'm voting for Williams and a minor leaguer for Avery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted January 15, 2007 Defence isn't a problem for us. We need a top forward. I agree. Our D is one of the best in the league. What we really need is someone who can protect our premier guys. One guy that comes to mind is Avery. I wouldn't have said this last year, but he's really matured this season. He's someone who can rattle the opponent, protect the Eurotwins, and score. Avery is hardly suited to protect anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted January 15, 2007 You have a valid point there, Andy Pred 48. But I would rather address that in the off-season. I'm voting for Williams and a minor leaguer for Avery. Why wait until then? Do you want to face teams like San Jose and watch them pound us into the ground because we have no toughness? I say get somebody now. Not Avery though. Avery is a dick, and he won't protect anyone. He'll just start crap and make guys want to kill him. Somebody like Lapointe or Fedoruk (my personal favorite choice, because Fedoruk has decent skill and fights people). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut4L1FE 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2007 (edited) You know, I never even thought about Lapointe. That would be cool to see him come back. I never said anything about waiting to address the toughness until the offseason. I said to address the defense in the offseason. Edited January 15, 2007 by wingnut4L1FE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 If we can get Pitkanen without having to give up Kronwall or Zetterberg, that needs to happen. Pitkanen in five years will be as dominant as Pronger physically and defensively, but with a better offensive game and some quickness in the skates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 Pitkanen in five years will be as dominant as Pronger physically and defensively, but with a better offensive game and some quickness in the skates. My goodness gracious, is that ever the prediction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 My goodness gracious, is that ever the prediction. He's already shown flashes of that kind of ability...five years is a long time to develop when you're as good and young as Pitkanen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted January 16, 2007 Pitkanen will never be as good as Pronger .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted January 30, 2007 are you kidding me? now we've got bots posting in topics! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
