MLive: Forsberg talk heats up, deal "in days"?

[Guest Crymson]

You'd rather go into the playoffs with Hudler than Forsberg? That's pretty whack.

Long-term, Hudler has great potential.

Really? You wouldn't trade Hudler and a pick for someone of Forsberg's calibre? And who says he'd be a renter? There have been reports the Wings would be interested in signing him to an extension if they acquired him -- and seeing as Detroit is apparently only one of three teams he'd be willing to waive his no-trade for, it's a good bet he'd re-up with them. Look, we all know Forsberg isn't the same player he was in the Wings-Avs heyday, but he's still an excellent player and, more importantly, a force in the playoffs -- something this team sorely needs. He's a true post-season gamebreaker. Sure, it'd be a risk to deal for him, given his recent mdeical troubles, but at this point it's better to roll the dice than sit back and do nothing or add a softie like Nagy (I don't think guys like Doan, Smyth or Bertuzzi are going anywhere). If I'm going to go to war against a San Jose or Anaheim in the first round, I'd like to have a guy like Forsberg on my team. And if it doesn't work out, don't re-sign the guy -- go after one of the marquee free agents in the off-season.

We don't have $6m of cap room to sign him with next season, if you hadn't noticed.

I don't think you can call Forsberg anything but a "softie," as his vulnerability to injury ranks amongst the top in the league.

[Rice 42]

The only thing I can think of that would be holding Nashville back is the fact that Arnott and Legwand have been great all year, as opposed to Lang who has been pretty inconsistent. I don't know if the Preds would be willing to mess around with their forwards considering they've all been pretty good this year. Also, would the Preds be willing to part with any significant forward prospects? They're at risk of losing Kariya and Hartnell next year. Their prospects and defense arent chopped liver though.

[Guest Crymson]

I want the Wings to get Forsberg just so he doesnt go to Nashville!! Havent you guys heard the rumors??? Nashvilles hot on his trail too!!

At any rate, landing Forsberg and then trading Lang to Atlanta sounds freaking awesome. Hope plausible it is, I have no idea. If the Wings trade Hudler and end up signing Forsberg to replace Datsyuk in the offseason, I wouldnt cry about. Especially if getting Forsberg rids us of Lang and gives us the cap space to bring in Roberts, Gelinas, Fedoruk maybe along with Forsberg??

I feel a three-way trade would be more likely in this case; Forsberg to Detroit for Atlantan prospects/draft picks, and Lang to Atlanta.

[Rice 42]

We don't have $6m of cap room to sign him with next season, if you hadn't noticed.

I don't think you can call Forsberg anything but a "softie," as his vulnerability to injury ranks amongst the top in the league.

You're right, we don't have $6 million to sign him with. We have $25 million free to sign him with. I doubt he'll want a raise from his current salary anyway.

Forsberg is far from a softie. He gets hurt but that's because he isnt a softie.

[Guest Crymson]

You're right, we don't have $6 million to sign him with. We have $25 million free to sign him with. I doubt he'll want a raise from his current salary anyway.

Forsberg is far from a softie. He gets hurt but that's because he isnt a softie.

$25 million is too much. He wants $6 million-- no more, no less.

Anywho, I admit I'm VERY excited for the trade deadline. VERY. A new toy...

Edited February 12, 2007 by Crymson

[YoungGuns1340 1]

That's awesome, lol.

I think the teams competing with Detroit for Forsberg will be Anaheim and Nashville, both of which we could be beaten by in a bidding war. The Ducks have Bobby Ryan and Nashville has a ton of defense prospects.

and theres talk of the Ducks giving up Radulov, but as the papers say, Forsberg controls where he gets to go. Heres to hoping Team Sweden swings the deal our way.

If Forsberg agreed to sign with Detroit, I would not surprised to see Hudler, a 1st rounder AND Kindl to the Flyers in return. I could see Kindl being of interest to Philly for some reason.

Ken Daniels mentioned a few nights ago that the Wings were interested in Jamal Mayers as well.

The only thing I can think of that would be holding Nashville back is the fact that Arnott and Legwand have been great all year, as opposed to Lang who has been pretty inconsistent. I don't know if the Preds would be willing to mess around with their forwards considering they've all been pretty good this year. Also, would the Preds be willing to part with any significant forward prospects? They're at risk of losing Kariya and Hartnell next year. Their prospects and defense arent chopped liver though.

Theres talk of Radulov, but I dont know how true this rumors are given Radulov's talent. Then again, the Preds are making a big time push this year, and Forsberg can easily play Right WIng. He has many a time in the past. Poile may think this is his best chance for his team to win it all, so he might pull a Holland and give up a promising player and a high draft pick to get it. Then again, his trades so far havent exactly been risky.

$25 million is too much. He wants $6 million-- no more, no less.

Anywho, I admit I'm VERY excited for the trade deadline. VERY. A new toy...

6 million for Forsberg beats 7 million for Datsyuk.

[Rice 42]

$25 million is too much. He wants $6 million-- no more, no less.

I think you missed my point.

[SwedeLundin77 460]

If this all goes down as the reports say it will (which it rarely does), but if it does it works out quite well for us.

Forsberg is a greater benefit to our team than Lang, that is a point that should not and cannot be argued against. So to acquire Forsberg, place him on the second line, than trade Lang for a pick or prospect to NYR would only benefit our squad.

You would not have to mess with our number one line, and if for some reason our number one line slows down, you have Foppa there to mix in and see if he can stir up some things, afterall, the though of Forsberg and Zetterberg on a line spells pure magic.

My hopes would be to trade Hudler and 1st rounder for Forsberg. Trade Lang to NYR for 1st or 2nd rounder or a decent prospect. Then trade for either Tkachuk, Guerin, or Lapointe. Obviously Lapointe may be the easiest to attain, and I have to say, he may be a perfect fit on a line with Draper and Franzen or Maltby. I'd look for Williams to be dealt in such a move too. This would mean that we could keep Filppula and Kopecky (when he returns) on the fourth line with Franzen, Maltby, or Langfeld.

I also do not like these Nagy rumors one bit. Nagy is exactly the type of player we don't need, he is a winger yes, but not a physical one, and also has not had the greatest of season thus far with PHX with only 8 goals. Please Holland do not look at Nagy for one second.

I really hope we can make some strong moves and remember, the above statements are just my opinions. I really hope, as long as Forsberg is playing better and experiencing less pain, that we can acquire him and a guy like Tkachuk, Guerin, or Lapointe.

I also am hearing more and more about Horton possibly being shopped, he'd be a nice fit and an excellent player to build our team with alongside Zata, Dats, and Kronner. But that price is probably far too steep.

[Howe's Bony Elbow 0]

We don't have $6m of cap room to sign him with next season, if you hadn't noticed.

Uh, I think we've got more than enough money freed up next year to sign Forsberg if we wanted to, especially with talk the cap may rise even more next season. And who says he wants "$6 million -- no more and no less"? What, exactly, don't you like about Forsberg's game? That he's injury-prone? Because, other than that, he's a spectacular hockey player who'd be welcomed on any team.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

If Forsberg agreed to sign with Detroit, I would not surprised to see Hudler, a 1st rounder AND Kindl to the Flyers in return. I could see Kindl being of interest to Philly for some reason.

That's ridiculous, even if the pick is conditional. I can't fathom both Rex and Kindl being dealt, no way no how.

[Bannedforlife 403]

I think the prudent thing to do would be to pick up Forsbrg and Bertuzzi, that way we'd go into the playoffs with three gimpy players for the hockey gods to choose from instead of just Hasek. Maybe if we offer up a sacrifice (lilja?) he'd let us get through June unscathed.

[Rice 42]

Also in the article it says Forsberg is willing to waive his NTC to go to Detroit, Anaheim, and Nashville. This conflicts with the report in the Free Press that says he'd be willing to go to Detroit, Anaheim, or Montreal. Hopefully the Freep is correct because I'd prefer if Nashville weren't involved in the bidding. Although I dont know if either report is accurate, because wouldn't it seem like Forsberg would want to play with Naslund? Who knows.

[SwedeLundin77 460]

Well I think the freepress report was written a few days ago, Montreal has been dropping games left and right lately, so I wouldn't be surprised if Forsberg was thinking of changing his mind considering Montreal may not make the playoffs this season at all if they continue their pace. Besides, I cannot imagine Philly trading Foppa to another eastern conference team, they probably want him in the west somewhere.

[Jedi 1,865]

Well I think the freepress report was written a few days ago, Montreal has been dropping games left and right lately, so I wouldn't be surprised if Forsberg was thinking of changing his mind considering Montreal may not make the playoffs this season at all if they continue their pace. Besides, I cannot imagine Philly trading Foppa to another eastern conference team, they probably want him in the west somewhere.

I wouldn't be surprised too if Philly nixed the possibility of a deal with the Habs. They are an Eastern Conference team, and teams usually don't like trading intra-conference for big deals like this.

Edited February 12, 2007 by Jedi

[YoungGuns1340 1]

That's ridiculous, even if the pick is conditional. I can't fathom both Rex and Kindl being dealt, no way no how.

You do know that the competition is coming in the form of guys like Bobby Ryan, Alexander Radulov and Shea Weber picks included, yes? To get a fully contracted Peter Forsberg, it will take that much.

Although Todd Fedoruk being thrown in would be nice...

[Rice 42]

You do know that the competition is coming in the form of guys like Bobby Ryan, Alexander Radulov and Shea Weber picks included, yes? To get a fully contracted Peter Forsberg, it will take that much.

Weber is a big part of the Preds' defense already. He wouldn't be part of a deal.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

You do know that the competition is coming in the form of guys like Bobby Ryan, Alexander Radulov and Shea Weber picks included, yes? To get a fully contracted Peter Forsberg, it will take that much.

If Nashville wants to go balls out and grab Forsberg for Radulov, Weber, and picks, I think Holland ought to let them. We know how well they made out with Witt last year (though they are two different caliber of players).

[Guest Crymson]

I think you missed my point.

It was a joke. Please take as a joke any comically ridiculous thing that I say.

This was a drawback from the Simpsons-- "This bomb shelter'll take one megaton-- no more, no less."

Uh, I think we've got more than enough money freed up next year to sign Forsberg if we wanted to, especially with talk the cap may rise even more next season. And who says he wants "$6 million -- no more and no less"? What, exactly, don't you like about Forsberg's game? That he's injury-prone? Because, other than that, he's a spectacular hockey player who'd be welcomed on any team.

See above.

As for the rest-- discussing "other than that," is an academic point. The "injury prone" is everything right now.

[Aussie_Wing 354]

I just don’t want to land another Cory Cross. That was without doubt the most pointless trade ever. We gave up a 3rd rounder for him too if my memory serves me correctly.

[Rice 42]

I just don’t want to land another Cory Cross. That was without doubt the most pointless trade ever. We gave up a 3rd rounder for him too if my memory serves me correctly.

I think we ended up ultimately giving up Rivers and a fourth for Cross and a seventh. The definition of pointless.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

I just don’t want to land another Cory Cross. That was without doubt the most pointless trade ever. We gave up a 3rd rounder for him too if my memory serves me correctly.

Wings were basically at the top of every meaningful offensive category last year and had the best record in the league. They had no need to spend assets to acquire a big name rental.

Different story this year.

[Rice 42]

Wings were basically at the top of every meaningful offensive category last year and had the best record in the league. They had no need to spend assets to acquire a big name rental.

Different story this year.

Didn't have the cap room either.

[Bluedevils_13 0]

Man I could totally see a Morisson and Frosberg trade, and I think Vancouver could afford to throw in a nother player, and a pick.

[Legendary D In 03 50]

If this article is implying that we'd land Forsberg AND Bertuzzi, I would be in absolute heaven if it came to fruition. The only thing is, I'd be a bit sad about giving up Lang, just because I like the guy a whole lot. Oh well.

Word,

LDi03

[interminded 1]

If this article is implying that we'd land Forsberg AND Bertuzzi, I would be in absolute heaven if it came to fruition. The only thing is, I'd be a bit sad about giving up Lang, just because I like the guy a whole lot. Oh well.

Word,

LDi03

Forsberg AND Bertuzzi ???

I don't think that's even possible, cap-wise ....