Wings goalie situation

[Wingsfan4life19 26]

OK here are the possibilities.

1) after the season/playoffs Dom stays and we keep him and Ozzie

2) after season/playoffs Dom retires and we have Ozzie/ Howard/Liv

3)after the season and dom is gone we bring up either howard/liv and release/trade Ozzie( lets face it Ozzie isnt a number one goalie) and acquire a number one goalie.

Now the problem... What would you do? and if we were to sign a goalie, who would it be?

[Zeta Power 40 1]

if dom retires then I would like to see the Wings go after Biron. Biron/Osgood would be a great combo. Howard isn't ready yet.

[DreamsofHope 2]

I don't understand why keeping Ozzie and signing a goaltender isn't a possibility. I think Hasek's future depends on our sucess. In fact I remember him saying something about this.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

If Hasek comes back, it's Hasek/Osgood for one more season.

If Hasek doesn't, I hate to disappoint some who have dreams about loathing Osgood, he can still start. He has one more year left on his contract so if Hasek departs, Osgood would get more playing time obviously, with Howard being backup IMO. Osgood would get 60-65% of the starts, Howard 35-40%.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

It totally depends on the postseason run. Let'ls say the Wings get eliminated, and Dom still feels up to play. I'd definitely re-sign him. If the Wings win the cup, Dom will probably retire because of it being the ideal way of going out. In that case, a lot of possibilities present themselves.

[Wingsfan4life19 26]

II don't understand why keeping Ozzie and signing a goaltender isn't a possibility. I think Hasek's future depends on our sucess. In fact I remember him saying something about this.

That is a possibilty; but, I would assume the Wings would like to bring up one of the kids and give them some experience; and, Ozzie may have to be part of the deal if hes traded to a team with a solid goalie tandem ( i.e Anaheim). Keeping Ozzie and signing/trading for someone definately is an option, i just forgot it, my mistake.

[edicius 3,269]

if dom retires then I would like to see the Wings go after Biron. Biron/Osgood would be a great combo. Howard isn't ready yet.

There's absolutely no way we're getting Biron. The Flyers aren't going to give him up. I see it as Ozzie and Howard next season, provided Dom retires.

[Zetter is Better 0]

It all depends on how Dom plays in the play-offs and if he can stay healthy. Only time will tell.

[Guest Crymson]

OK here are the possibilities.

1) after the season/playoffs Dom stays and we keep him and Ozzie

2) after season/playoffs Dom retires and we have Ozzie/ Howard/Liv

3)after the season and dom is gone we bring up either howard/liv and release/trade Ozzie( lets face it Ozzie isnt a number one goalie) and acquire a number one goalie.

Now the problem... What would you do? and if we were to sign a goalie, who would it be?

I believe Dom will most likely retire after this season.

If Dom is willing to stay as a backup, we'll dump Ozzie without blinking. I don't think anyone will disagree on that.

Ozzie will not be first string next year. I also don't think anyone could possibly disagree on that.

WILL anyone disagree with those--especially the third one?

If Hasek comes back, it's Hasek/Osgood for one more season.

If Hasek doesn't, I hate to disappoint some who have dreams about loathing Osgood, he can still start. He has one more year left on his contract so if Hasek departs, Osgood would get more playing time obviously, with Howard being backup IMO. Osgood would get 60-65% of the starts, Howard 35-40%.

Throughout all the goaltender hooplah of the summer, not one letter of one word out of the mouth of anyone in the organization even pertained slightly to having Osgood as starting goaltender. Mind you, this was after he had been re-signed. As such, while you believe he has the potential to start, I doubt to the extreme that the management will---barring a worst-case scenario---start him next year, especially since several goalies will be out on the market.

Edited March 18, 2007 by Crymson

[Kp-Wings 3]

I hope Hasek is able to come back and play again. Despite his antics, he is a very good goalie.

I'll be honest here: an Osgood/Howard tandem would be awful. Nothing against Ozzie, but I don't think he can handle starting minutes like he used to. He is a good backup, but I don't know if he has enough to be a starter. Howard only has 4 NHL games to his credit. Having him be a starter is not a very good option either.

[Guest Crymson]

I hope Hasek is able to come back and play again. Despite his antics, he is a very good goalie.

I'll be honest here: an Osgood/Howard tandem would be awful. Nothing against Ozzie, but I don't think he can handle starting minutes like he used to. He is a good backup, but I don't know if he has enough to be a starter. Howard only has 4 NHL games to his credit. Having him be a starter is not a very good option either.

I think the point is that we can afford much better. Also, we're in a great position; goalies from lesser teams would love to come to the Red Wings, as--say what you will about early playoff exits--we're still a perennial powerhouse and, with the Devils, the most successful team of the last decade.

[Kp-Wings 3]

I think the point is that we can afford much better. Also, we're in a great position; goalies from lesser teams would love to come to the Red Wings, as--say what you will about early playoff exits--we're still a perennial powerhouse and, with the Devils, the most successful team of the last decade.

Who do you have in mind? Biron? He's the only one I can think of.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Osgood is more than capable of being starter, as he has been throughout most of his career.

I can't even believe some of you on here making it sound like it would be out of the question for Oz to start again. He can be the #1 guy again in an instance.

Btw, The Wings aren't dropping Ozzie, regardless. Sorry to break it to you guys but him Holland isn't getting rid of him. You can bank on that.

It's been talked about for awhile now that within a couple years or next that Ozzie would be #1 and Howard backing him up so Oz can teach Jimmy everything and take him under his Wing. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Edited March 18, 2007 by hockeycrazy3033

[Kp-Wings 3]

Osgood is more than capable of being starter, as he has been throughout most of his career.

I can't even believe some of you on here making it sound like it would be out of the question for Oz to start again. He can be the #1 guy again in an instance.

Btw, The Wings aren't dropping Ozzie, regardless. Sorry to break it to you guys but him Holland isn't getting rid of him. You can bank on that.

It's been talked about for awhile now that within a couple years or next that Ozzie would be #1 and Howard backing him up so Oz can teach Jimmy everything and take him under his Wing. I don't see anything wrong with that.

I never questioned it would happen, nor did I say he would be dumped. I said I would be uncomfortable if he the starter.

The injuries have obviously played a part of it, but Ozzie has struggled even against the worst of teams this year. His really only solid performances have been against Nashville this year, even in the one they lost (Forsbergs goal was very lucky). He is a good goalie, and I am not one of the ones coming on here saying "omg ozy suks lolz!!!!!!11". The fact though, is that he hasn't been a starting goalie in almost 3 seasons now, and in his time with the Islanders and St. Louis he was very inconsistant, at least from what I've seen.

Could he be a starter again? Yes he could. But will he be solid enough for a whole season? I don't know.

Edited March 18, 2007 by Kp-Wings

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

I don't see Dom retiring if they win the Cup. He proved to fans and himself that he still has the juice.

If they do go out in the playoffs, I think Dom will ABSOLUTELY play next season, simply because of how good he was this year.

[Packer487 3]

If Dom makes it through the year healthy, I could totally see him coming back again next year. The guy is too much of a competitor to hang it up (again) while he's still got juice in the tank. I think the last time he retired, he realized how much he missed the game.

If we win the Cup it might be a different story--the whole "Go out on top" thing--but if we don't win it and he's still playing at a high level, I think (HOPE) he comes back.

I'd be really worried going into next season with an Osgood/Howard duo. Especially if we burn a lot of our cap room reupping Datsyuk (BTW, Calder is the guy they should be looking to get signed immediately).

One quick comment (to be fair) since I haven't been around most of this week since I'm in the middle of moving out to Madison. Gotta give Ozzie credit...he played a real good game against Nashville the other night. I still wanted to dive through the TV when he did the hands-at-his-sides-like-"what-did-you-want-me-to-do-stop-that?" thing after the first goal, but he played a real good game. That save on Kariya where he stacked the pads was niiiiiiiice.

Can't wait to see this team after we get Z and Bertuzzi back!

-Tim

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

I think that we keep Osgood as a backup and get a FA in the offseason for a starter.

[wingsdiehard13 33]

Osgood is more than capable of being starter, as he has been throughout most of his career.

I can't even believe some of you on here making it sound like it would be out of the question for Oz to start again. He can be the #1 guy again in an instance.

Btw, The Wings aren't dropping Ozzie, regardless. Sorry to break it to you guys but him Holland isn't getting rid of him. You can bank on that.

It's been talked about for awhile now that within a couple years or next that Ozzie would be #1 and Howard backing him up so Oz can teach Jimmy everything and take him under his Wing. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Ozzie still can start and I would have full confidence in him..

However, I think Dom will be back next year.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

If Dom is to retire ( I highly doubt it )

We could go with a Biron/Giguere/Osgood Tandem (Which ever is avaiable)

[superstarsingh 23]

If Hasek comes back, it's Hasek/Osgood for one more season.

If Hasek doesn't, I hate to disappoint some who have dreams about loathing Osgood, he can still start. He has one more year left on his contract so if Hasek departs, Osgood would get more playing time obviously, with Howard being backup IMO. Osgood would get 60-65% of the starts, Howard 35-40%.

That pretty much sums it up. We wont get Biron, he will be signed by the Flyers. We will have Ozzie and Howard next eyar if Dom is not back. Howard may even stay in the AHL again so he can start all year and Liv might be a backup. But Ozzie and Howard seems like a more likely scenario.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

One quick comment (to be fair) since I haven't been around most of this week since I'm in the middle of moving out to Madison. Gotta give Ozzie credit...he played a real good game against Nashville the other night. I still wanted to dive through the TV when he did the hands-at-his-sides-like-"what-did-you-want-me-to-do-stop-that?" thing after the first goal, but he played a real good game. That save on Kariya where he stacked the pads was niiiiiiiice.

Can't wait to see this team after we get Z and Bertuzzi back!

-Tim

That's what I like to see! Giving credit where it's due. Why can't most people be like that?

I've got respect for you, Tim.

we have to put the affinity for ozzie aside. yeah he's likable, and he triggers a nostalgic feeling, but personal feelings make for bad business. osgood should never start on this team again. sorry, but i expect better. as wings fans, we all should.

Where the hell do you come up with this stuff? Who said anything about personal feelings? I know you are referring to me, and you're absolutely wrong. This isn't personal. It's me believing and knowing that Ozzie can handle and be successful at being the #1 guy again. Stop with the nonsense comments.

The fact though, is that he hasn't been a starting goalie in almost 3 seasons now, and in his time with the Islanders and St. Louis he was very inconsistant, at least from what I've seen.

Could he be a starter again? Yes he could. But will he be solid enough for a whole season? I don't know.

His time with the Isles and Blues is where he played some of his best hockey. Ozzie was easily the Isles best player AND the Blues in the years he was with them. He played some great hockey and was a big reason in why they both went to the post season.

BTW, I wasn't saying that YOU are one of the ones that bash. I was just posting to the majority that are like that.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

I was watching some of my Don Cherry tapes today , when Ozzie was with the Blues and the Isles , amn he was spectacular , give him the starts and he can coem threw , in NYI and STL , he didnt give up many afr away shots like he did in detroit , hes improved on those , and thats all people ever doubted him on.

If Dom does retire , I say we pick up a back-up goalie , and have him spilt time with Ozzie , give howard one more year

[Guest pornstar]

bring back cujo

[Rikadyn 16]

If we were to call up someone to be back up and get infrequent starts, I see Liv getting called up more than Howard. Let howard stay down and get regular duty, let liv come up and occasionally show flashes of brilliance

[WingsFANstuckintheSOUTH 10]

I think its fair to say its easier to be a quarterback for Michigan than to be a goalie on the Wings. No fan of Detroit will ever be content with the goaltending that Holland puts out, hell i mean people still bitched when we had Hasek, Cujo and Manny...At the end of the day you gotta realize this is worse then beating a dead horse and that we have no say in what happens and we can just cheer for the one between the pipes on any given night and hope for the best