Post-Game 3: Flames 3, Red Wings 2 (4/17)

[kozac 10]

Also, i don't think the officiateing was that bad. Yes they let some things go, but overall i don't think Calgary was heavily favoured. They did let Dan's elbow on Phaneuf go which also led to a goal remember?

You want to see bad officiating? watch this:

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Also, i don't think the officiateing was that bad. Yes they let some things go, but overall i don't think Calgary was heavily favoured. They did let Dan's elbow on Phaneuf go which also led to a goal remember?

You want to see bad officiating? watch this:

Dan's hit was clean.

That was a pretty brutal dive by Wayneo at the start there.

[OsGOD 3]

Well from what I have seen live and in person games 1 and 2 and from the TV in game 3... I must say neither Bert nor Zetterberg are playing at all at 100%.

Zeta is starting to get his game legs back but he still lacks puck and shot control skills that he had before the injury.

At this point in time I really don't think we should be using Zeta as much as we do out there. Not until he gets closer to 100%. He looking less sluggish now than he did in his first game back... but evidenced by his flub play from Lids (equally as guilty) which lead to the tying goal... he is not the Zeta of old. Before the injury he accepts the pass, no matter if it was behind, above, in front of, or below him and the goal is avoided.

If we use them less and play the players actually producing or leading to goals (i.e. do not bench hudler when his play is actually leading to goals).

I am not in panic mode yet, but 2nd period of game 2 and the entire game 3 play was FAR LESS than impressive, and not at all series winning.

[kozac 10]

Dan's hit was clean.

That was a pretty brutal dive by Wayneo at the start there.

I already posted in the other thread, but is there a video of the hit for me to examine more closely because i thought Dan got that elbow up from the few replays last night.

But what i'm really trying to say here is, if the refs were favouring Calgary so much they would have definitely made that call, thats all.

[DRW Dominance 255]

Detroit didn't play very well at all. Forecheck needs to get back the way it was in game 1. Our PP is bad and our PK is not helping either. Considering how "great" Calgary is at home they barely won this game. I expect much better in game 4.

[Zion 93]

I will watch the game tonight on DVR as I had to get up early this morning and only made it through the first period.

I am so sick of Lang and Samuelsson. I am begging for Jiri Hudler to get into the line-up, and I love your idea of keeping the 4th line of Mule, Flip and Huds. Just great stuff.

Looked like the top line had their usual "unproductive in the playoff" nights, so hopefully they adjust, because (from what it sounds like) if they do, this series is over in 5.

[Matt 1,049]

The Flames won because of one or two Red Wing mistakes.

Quoted for truth.

Honestly, I didn't expect the Red Wings to take Game 3 and, if they did, this series was over Thursday. That said, I thought (overall) they withstood the Calgary initiative to start the game unscathed, if outplayed. I do think they were a bit overcautious in not making a defensive mistake early in the game and that took away the initiative they established in Games 1 & 2.

I think they'll re-assert themselves in Game 4 Thursday.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

The freakin referees in the NHL should not be Canadian or American. PLEASE GET 3RD PARTY REFERES FROM EUROPE!!!! Calcary can't beat the Wings man to man (5 on 5). They just can't do it!!

BS. That's like saying: stop hiring supreme court justices from the US! Hire impartial judges from Austrailia.

And yeah, the reffing was kinda bad, but whatever- the Wings had some generous calls the last two games and guess what? Bad bounces, bad calls and bad luck happens. The boys weren't playing 100% last night, they weren't even playing 80%.

-->Lids made some key errors that were distinctly un-Lids-like

-->Zetter was skating great but far too easy to knock off the puck and often lacked that second effort he is known for (hell it was like Cleary stole his heart and played with double the enthusiasm)

-->Dats wasn't shooting enough, although he was pretty good with the puck, he definitely wasn't playing as well as he has for the last 15-20 games

-->Bert looked half lost out there and wasn't hitting nearly often enough. Remember how much Cleary's hit got the boys reved up? Well if a 250 lb man did that it would've shut the crowd up too.

-->Lang actually looked a bit better then last game, but still isn't bringing it like we've been told he does in the playoffs

-->Schnieds took a bad penelty to start the game off- giving them the momentum they didn't need (from our prespective)

On the positive side:

-->Lebs led a great little rush at the end that only barely got shut down

-->Cheli was fantastic on the PK

-->Z managed to hold of 4 Flames players durring a dump-in shift change

-->Cleary played like a man possessed and got under the entire Calgary team's skin, he's definitely still playing the hockey we saw the team play the last two games

-->I saw Dats throw some checks and maintain the puck on his back after a fall

-->We battled it out and stayed neck-and-neck in what should have been the best play we'll see from Calgary. In other words, a mediocre Wings team keep up with a red hot Flames

-->Apparently Calgary jersies grow on trees

[Matt 1,049]

Looked like the top line had their usual "unproductive in the playoff" nights, so hopefully they adjust, because (from what it sounds like) if they do, this series is over in 5.

I don't necessarily think the top line was unproductive (on the scoresheet yes, in terms of effectiveness, no) -- they were creating scoring chances during the game but Holmstrom failed to finish in a couple of instances in the first half of the game and a few passes were off the mark on others.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Overall, the Wings had a helluva time making any good passes to start a rush. Everything was a bit ahead or behind to kill the momentum. I'm not sure what to make of it, other than to believe that it'll get sorted out for Game 4.

[OsGOD 3]

-->Apparently Calgary jersies grow on trees

Or well the fans actually abide by the request to wear RED to the games.... I did my part in games 1 and 2 but so many others still had suits, short skirts or white jerseys on.

Not to mention The RED WAVE promotion was printed on WHITE towels. I dunno... Calgary definitely has the fans backing their red out quite nicely.

[gameover 0]

Funny how when we lose people say -- we didn't play our best game -- ok maybe -- but Calgary did play a much better game. And they were able to overcome a 3rd period deficit -- which should really concern the wings. Blowing 3rd period leads is never, ever a good confidence booster. I can only think back to last year's disaster in Edmonton.

I saw the Lidstrom play on the Iginla goal -- ok, so he missed the intercept. Last time I checked we did have a goalie in net right? That is a shot and an angle that Dom has GOT to stop. Someone once said it takes two mistakes to score a goal -- he was right.

Wings still have control -- they still have home ice. Calgary still has to win the next game to keep this thing close. Last night the wings had a glorious chance to cut the head off the snake -- and it wriggled free of their grasp -- find it again and finish the job.

[jpfalcon09 0]

No excuses should be made concerning last night's game, whether if it was the officiating or the fact of not getting breaks. The Wings were on their heels for most of the game, especially during the 1st period. It's understandable that Calgary would come up with more jump from their crowd, but the Wings abandoned their game plan from the first two games. There was little puck possession, the physical game was toned down for some reason, and the Wings looked to be passive and reacting rather than initiating the issues.

In my mind, Game 4 is the series. The Flames tie the series and it's a whole new ballgame, and their momentum will be something to contend with. This is a good team people, and the Wings let them off the ropes last night, now it's the Wings decision to put them back there or let Calgary fire back with a punch of their own. Series on!

[CMatt89 63]

Injuries aside, Henrik Zetterberg played his worst game as a Detroit Red Wing. He was to blame for Calgary's second goal, and half to blame on Iginla's goal. (The other half going to Hasek)

Cleary, Draper, Maltby, and Datsyuk...and Lilja.. were the only ones that played good. When did Datsyuk learn how to hit?...because I really like it.

Robert Lang needs to go...

[Jiggy_12 0]

The game was a good one, could have went either way. I think we had the edge from the fans. I was really proud of the Flames fans for this one. Very vocal all night.

Kipper was good, Amonte was good, and Conroy was good. Lombardi was great!

Booing Bertuzzi was lots of fun, especially considering how useless he was out there. Mayou gube your worst player on the ice besides Lang.

Still, you guys dominated your 2 home games...we barely squeaked out a win for ours. Game 4 is absolutley crucial.

[OsGOD 3]

Booing Bertuzzi was lots of fun, especially considering how useless he was out there. Mayou gube your worst player on the ice besides Lang.

Or the other players not named Draper or Cleary, but by all means single out Lang on this one

Edited April 18, 2007 by OsGOD

[motorcitykid 42]

- Lang was bad again, his line was non-existant, and the decision to put him out there on the last faceoff was stupid

- Bert looks lost and he's really a liability out there, he gives Calgary energy because the fans hate him and he isn't really doing anything

- Dom was bad on the 3rd goal and Nick's gamble was not a good choice

- Dats' line needs to fight through the checks and such, they were shut down with physical play and they'll become invisible again if nothing changes

- Stronger forecheck will lead to more turnovers and goals, too much sitting back and letting things come to them, rather than vice versa

- It's only one game and I predicted the Flames to win at least one game, I'm not too terribly upset, just need to be more disciplined and play more like the first 2 games

All great points. Again it's one game. Not too worried. Don't mistake Pavel and Hank's no-show on the scoresheet for getting checked off the puck. They played as well as the rest of the guys. Markov was noticable, and for the wrong reasons. Bertuzzi is not game ready yet - and i'm pissed Sammy wasn't sat instead of Huds. The lineup, minus maybe Draper and Cleary didn't play well. And we lost by a goal. Calgary IS beatable at home, and if we can only work on this damn PP and PK, we'll be fine.

I can't wait for tomorrow's game. Like I said, Game 4 is the one where we see just how "different" our team really is this year.

[wingslogo19 281]

Very close game, Cleary and Draper were very good tonight.. The mistakes we made cost us the hockey game

[drwscc 212]

Injuries aside, Henrik Zetterberg played his worst game as a Detroit Red Wing. He was to blame for Calgary's second goal, and half to blame on Iginla's goal. (The other half going to Hasek)

How ya figure? It was Hank's fault that he was interfered with (pulled down) which is how that rush started? In that case, Phaneuf is to blame for our 2nd goal, seeing as he allowed Cleary to rock his world before it was scored.

[CMatt89 63]

How ya figure? It was Hank's fault that he was interfered with (pulled down) which is how that rush started? In that case, Phaneuf is to blame for our 2nd goal, seeing as he allowed Cleary to rock his world before it was scored.

The second goal, He completely missed the pass from Lidstrom..which directly led to the goal.

EDIT: Your right about Iginla's goal. I just watched a replay of it..I didn't see any of the replay's last night. He was grabbed....and why the hell wasn't there a call!?

And actully, if you watch right before Cleary drills Phaneuf, He does turn the puck over...So, you can partially blame him for the goal...he gave the Wings the puck.

Edited April 18, 2007 by CMatt89

[Guest Agalloch]

What can you say? It was one of the worst games the Wings have played this season. Cleary and Draper were great, but the rest of the team was terrible. Bertuzzi was alright too, but needs to be more physical.

-Zetterberg was terrible. I can't believe I just said that, but it's the truth, and there's no way anyone can defend him for the game he played.

-Hasek was also very bad. The goal by Iginla was extremely weak. Some people would probably blame Lidstrom for the goal, but I don't see how you can.

-Danny Markov. No more bad penalties, please.

-The power play is awful.

I'm not even going to continue, because it was an awful game by the Wings. Cleary was amazing, and I don't think there's any doubt he's been the best player on the ice for every game so far in this series. I don't know what happened in the game, but all our best players decided to be terrible. Hopefully it doesn't happen next game.

It'd be nice if Zetterberg did something. He should be in game shape by now.

EDIT: I've also always been one to support Robert Lang, simply because he produces when it counts. Obviously, he has no interest in doing that anymore, either. He's amazingly bad now, and I don't know why. I can't wait to see him off the team. If Babcock would actually use his rookies, Filppula would be the second line center, but he's obviously too dumb to demote Lang.

Edited April 18, 2007 by Agalloch

[Kp-Wings 3]

Brutal finish. I stayed up to watch it too. How could the Wings let it slip away like that? Oh well, they'll just have to come out harder in Game 4.

By the way guys, I'm curious here. How have the Flames fans who post here been? I really hope that after one win they didn't start becoming a bunch of arrogent pricks. I noticed a new forum rules thing though, so something tells me they were.

[Viperar 16]

Brutal finish. I stayed up to watch it too. How could the Wings let it slip away like that? Oh well, they'll just have to come out harder in Game 4.

By the way guys, I'm curious here. How have the Flames fans who post here been? I really hope that after one win they didn't start becoming a bunch of arrogent pricks. I noticed a new forum rules thing though, so something tells me they were.

theyve all been pretty civil, minus one, but we all know who that is

[Guest Agalloch]

theyve all been pretty civil, minus one, but we all know who that is

Who?

[Kp-Wings 3]

theyve all been pretty civil, minus one, but we all know who that is

I assume your talking about tangstoiggy, who IMO is a f*cking moron.

Am I right?