haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) I wish we had both Bruise Bros back. Probert was always my favorite player. Remember when he went to the all-star game? It was amazing watching Probie at the all star game. Not being able to hit or muck it up, he looked so lost out there. This is not at all meant to be disrespectful toward a Wings great, but I must say I find it a little ironic that so many of you are talking about how great it would be to have Vlad the Impaler back in a topic that's related to how dirty a defenseman Chris Pronger is. I wish Vlad were still playing too, but you've got to admit that he was even dirtier than Pronger. Maybe the dirtiest player I've ever seen in a Wings uniform. You do remember that Hatcher played here for a short while, don't you? as did Ulf Samuelsson. Edited May 17, 2007 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedwingRunnamuck 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I miss Stevie. I wish he could play forever. greatest captain ever. Liddy is a great captain, too. I liked Dino as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I wish the Wings still had Sawchuk and Howe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsZR2 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Joey KO, best right hand in the business. You may land 20+ punches on him but once that right found you it was goodnight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jaytan Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Hatcher, at least, was a good leader and a really tough fighter. His time with us didn't go too smoothly, but unfortunately, he was injured. Then we had the stupid lock-out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Vlad Forever 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Probie, Grimson, Hatcher, Kocur, McCartey....I miss having a 'go to' guy in these roles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Hatcher, at least, was a good leader and a really tough fighter. His time with us didn't go too smoothly, but unfortunately, he was injured. Then we had the stupid lock-out. And Vladdy was a Norris caliber defenseman who threw Scott Steven's-like checks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Doubt it would happen near as much if he was still around http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3THmZ1HoMoY...ted&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtcLTZ7pkd4...ted&search= Im sure some of you feel the same. I especially like the number done on our friend Playfair from Calgary. A long time ago I found a sweet magazine on a rack in a magazine shop where I went to college. Anyway, it was strictly devoted to fighters in the NHL. It must've been 10 years now but i've never seen another one like it. Anyway, it ranked the top 25 fighters in the league with a bio and some ratings and then honorable mention for like 25 other guys. Anyway, I don't have the mag anymore but I remember Joey was ranked #25 at the time. Mind you this was back around 96-97 at the tail end of his career. The mag had cool ratings for things like punch power, fear, stamina, etc.... Anyway, the bio's for the 1st 25 guys were a couple sentences long but I remember Joey's was very short and succinct. This may not be verbatim but it read "Doesn't fight much anymore because he doesn't have to. Simply put, he's a legend" I'm pretty sure that's all it said. That always stuck with me because anybody who watched Joey just knew, for a guy of his size, relative to other heavyweights, he was the most fearsome guy ever. Probie prolly goes down as the best but in my mind Joey is better because he didn't have the size but he had far more KO's than just about anybody, even Probie and those mangled hands of his just showed what kind of a ferocious warrior he was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan40 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Damn those were some night fight clips ...Takes me back a while to when the wings could actually drop the gloves and win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) I like how Kocur mellowed in his later years. When he KO'd a guy, he'd just skate away instead of taking one last shot at him. He could change the outcome of a fight with one swing of his right hand. Man, wtf was Eagles thinking dropping the gloves with Joey. Edited May 17, 2007 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 as did Ulf Samuelsson. Woah. I remember him. Ulf's knee-on-knee was basically what ended Cam Neelys career, wasn't it? He was a really dirty player. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if our current Samulesson played that way, but he probably won't. Hey, I've got to admit, I hate dirty players in the league, but when their on the Wings, they do help. I guess I'm a hypocrite then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jaytan Report post Posted May 18, 2007 And Vladdy was a Norris caliber defenseman who threw Scott Steven's-like checks. He definitely was, I'm not saying he was a bad defenseman. I'm just saying he was notorious for his dirty play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowingsgo 3 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 This is not at all meant to be disrespectful toward a Wings great, but I must say I find it a little ironic that so many of you are talking about how great it would be to have Vlad the Impaler back in a topic that's related to how dirty a defenseman Chris Pronger is. I wish Vlad were still playing too, but you've got to admit that he was even dirtier than Pronger. Maybe the dirtiest player I've ever seen in a Wings uniform. Vladdy played with ruthless abandon, not intent to injure. There is a big difference there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Yzerman anf Probert Kocer award (TKO or KO of the year) Probert award (Fighter of the year) and more can be found here Almost unrelated to this topic but... why is it you can find dozens of sites dedicated to fighting but none to this "new NHL"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
union drone 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Kocur was definately great to have on the team! There are a lot of guys I miss: Konstantinov ...pretty obvious one there! Federov ...loved watching him completely undress people on an end-to-end rush Fischer ...the guy was awesome in the 2002 cup run, had all the potential in the world to become a dominant D-man Coffey ...I remember when he was paired with Lids on the powerplay, it was lights out! Murphy ...formed a very solid pair with Lids on D for both the '97 and '98 cups Kozlov ...always seemed to be able to skate into a crowd of guys twice his size and skate out with the puck untouched. Also, he was clutch in the playoffs. Dino ...maybe the only guy who was better in front of the net than Homer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Vlad Forever 1 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Kocur was definately great to have on the team! There are a lot of guys I miss: Konstantinov ...pretty obvious one there! Federov ...loved watching him completely undress people on an end-to-end rush Fischer ...the guy was awesome in the 2002 cup run, had all the potential in the world to become a dominant D-man Coffey ...I remember when he was paired with Lids on the powerplay, it was lights out! Murphy ...formed a very solid pair with Lids on D for both the '97 and '98 cups Kozlov ...always seemed to be able to skate into a crowd of guys twice his size and skate out with the puck untouched. Also, he was clutch in the playoffs. Dino ...maybe the only guy who was better in front of the net than Homer. I was going to say Dino, but I didn't know how many of us still remembered. That settles it, this is the board I'm meant to be on! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regwinguofmfan 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Kocur was definately great to have on the team! There are a lot of guys I miss: Konstantinov ...pretty obvious one there! Federov ...loved watching him completely undress people on an end-to-end rush Fischer ...the guy was awesome in the 2002 cup run, had all the potential in the world to become a dominant D-man Coffey ...I remember when he was paired with Lids on the powerplay, it was lights out! Murphy ...formed a very solid pair with Lids on D for both the '97 and '98 cups Kozlov ...always seemed to be able to skate into a crowd of guys twice his size and skate out with the puck untouched. Also, he was clutch in the playoffs. Dino ...maybe the only guy who was better in front of the net than Homer. With all respect to Dino (I have the mans #22 Home Jersey) I dont think he could do what he did in todays NHL. Homer is the perfect body type for this, thick. Probert was a great fighter but the pure power Joey had I dont think we will ever see again. When he hit people it looked like he was a Light Heavyweight boxer. Just unreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
union drone 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 With all respect to Dino (I have the mans #22 Home Jersey) I dont think he could do what he did in todays NHL. Homer is the perfect body type for this, thick. Probert was a great fighter but the pure power Joey had I dont think we will ever see again. When he hit people it looked like he was a Light Heavyweight boxer. Just unreal. It's hard to say. Dino was never a particularly good skater. With the speed of the post-lockout game, he (at least in the form that he was in with the Wings) would probably struggle to keep up. On the other hand, though, skating was never a big part of his game (kinda like Homer). Also, consider that Dino played many of his prime years in the 80s, when the style was very open and free-wheeling. If anything, it could be argued that Dino (as he was in his prime) might have fared better in today's NHL than in the pre-lockout trap era. As for size, you're right that Homer can deal with a level of abuse that Dino probably could not...one thing that Dino excelled at, however, was looking like he was getting mauled and drawing a penalty. As far as comparing him to Homer: Drawing opposition penalties: Dino>>>Homer Scoring off rebounds: Dino>Homer Scoring off deflections: Dino>>Homer (Dino was ridiculous at this) Size/strength: Homer>>>Dino Pest factor: Dino>Homer Checking/physical play: Homer>>Dino Skating ability: Dino=Homer=pretty lousy Just my 2 cents...feel free to disagree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 McCarty by far, man if he saw that hit, he would have been right out there next shift wating for pronger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan40 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 McCarty by far, man if he saw that hit, he would have been right out there next shift wating for pronger. Very true...In the back of my mind I was hoping Bertuzzi or someone would go out there and take a chunk out of him the next shift he was on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 I miss Stevie. I wish he could play forever. greatest captain ever. Liddy is a great captain, too. I liked Dino as well. I gotta agree with you , I mean Probie , Kocur , Vladdy , Fischer and McCarty where great Red Wings. But the Red Wing that I miss most is Steve Yzerman. Greatest Captain ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 988 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Seems I remember Mickey saying "Kocur is flashing his sheriff badge"adn here we go..... If either Joey or Probie were on the Wings Pronger NEVER runs at Homer. No way no how. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 426 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Here is a vid you may or may not enjoy. Eitherway I think it's great. You'll just have to laugh at the homer guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 (edited) Here is a vid you may or may not enjoy. Eitherway I think it's great. You'll just have to laugh at the homer guys those announcers are hilarious. it's like hearing a couple grandpa's commentating on the game. While we're reminiscing. You gotta wait until the end to see Probie's uppercut on Nylund. Edited May 18, 2007 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATIEBARTHEDOOR24 426 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Probert almost killed Lazaro(spelling) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
