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Thanks Lefty for the in depth explanation.

10 spins at the wheel at Tankathon 2 times we got to 2nd ...this is the YEAR!!

Curious if you waive both Holl and Tank and no one claims. If they refuse to report to the Griffins then what? Do we get cap relief if they essentially "quit"?

i think Toddfather agrees with my assessment based on this https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2025/03/28/detroit-red-wings-playoff-chase-blame-it-on-mental-sags-todd-mclellan/82698702007/ "I go back to when we arrived, we talked about building up a belief system," McLellan said. "It’s getting tested, and it has been getting tested this whole month. It’s not just the wins and losses in your record, it’s about what happens in a game. And we’ve seen that multiple times where it doesn’t go our way and it drops off for five minutes. And then we get it back. "We can’t sag. It’s as much mental as it is physical and structural." We don't need UFA we need a shrink STAT!!!

Just for grins looked at the month by month between us and the cats this year and last. 2024-25 2023-2024 Panthers Pts Wings Panthers Wings Oct 7-3-1 15 Oct 4-5-1 9 Oct 4-3-1 9 Oct 6-3-1 13 Nov 8 - 6 16 Nov 6-6-1. 13 Nov 10-4-1 21 Nov 6-4-2 14 Dec 8 -4 -1 17 Dec 5-7-2. 12 Dec 8-5 16 Dec 5-9-1 11 ================================================================================= 48 34 46 38 Jan 7-6-1 15 Jan 10-3-1 21 Jan 9-2-2 20 Jan 9-2-2 20 Feb 6-2 12 Feb 5-2-1 13 Feb 9-2 18 Feb 7-3 14 Mar 7-4 14 Mar 3-9 6 Mar 7-6-1 15 Mar 3-9-2 8 ================================================================================== 41 40 53 42 Because this seemed like a pattern I went back to 2022-23 Panthers Wings Oct 8-0-1 17 Oct 4-3-2 10 Nov 7-4-2 16 Nov 7-3-3 17 Dec 5-3-1 11 Dec 5-6-2. 12 ================================== 44 39 Jan 12-2-1 25 Jan 5-7-1 11 Feb 3-4 6 Feb 7-5 12 Mar 11-2-1 23 Mar 5-9-1 11 ====================================== 54 34 We never cracked 40 points or over in the first 3 months of the season vs the Cats whose worst record was 41. IMHO we have a sloppy start and then struggle to get back into contention and either injuries or mental fatigue becomes a factor and we die off. Been a pattern for the past 3 seasons under 2 coaches

Whelp Chychrun is off the table ....NEXT?

They both look lethargic after the stupid 4 Nations thingy. Always felt that the 4 Nations killed our momentum as we were on a bit of a roll in Jan(10-3). We were 3 - 1 going into the break 2 weeks later the wheels pretty much come off the bus. Which begs the question why do the wheels come off mid Feb into March? Correct me but this meltdown has happened the last 3 years with 2 different coaches. Close to the same roster so is it lack of focus/youth/lack of faith?/not getting help at trade deadline?

I am about to say yes 5 points out of WC2 which is the Habs Even with most of the teams we have to overcome in GP Playing the toughest schedule out of the teams we are trying to pass Team banged up and IMHO think giving up https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2025/03/23/detroit-red-wings-playoff-chase-todd-mclellan-questions-teams-grit/82619057007/

Soooo as we arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic of a season. At what point if at all should we put Holl on waivers or move Shine back down and bring up some youth from GR? What is the tipping point ?

Ajo squared is the 3rd pair ?

Kasper IMHO is doing quite well as 2nd C 2 goals tonight

Wow what a superstar goalie can do for you needed 1 more sec otherwise was a good effort where has that effort been?

Aaah gotcha! Consider my brain damage from the time change...LOL Exposing Holl on waivers and bringing someone from GR is that all bad? Wouldn't we shed cap and perhaps get a look at both the guys you mentioned

Don't perceive my "depression" over this skid as giving totally up but the storm clouds are gathering on the horizon. I wouldn't expect Mrazek and Smith to pull us across the line be happy to be wrong but.... I am more disappointed at the players that have been here done that said the same things the last couple of years. Then go out and have the same blah performance or zero fire after things go south like against the Caps.

I think if we lose this one it's almost time to fold the tents of this circus of a season. Bring up kids get them some experience and start looking at dropping to get a better pick. I don't understand its about the same time the last 3 years we have a meltdown. Two different coaches, different players etc is there something happening to the water in Detroit causing the issue?