Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Carlysle is an extension of Burke. I recall reading a snippet from Burke where he talked about Carlysle being his kinda coach and how they share all the same philosophies in how to play the game. I wish i could get involved in this tree somehow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 It must be a miserable life for a Duck fan. Yeah, great weather all year round, multiple sports options, hockey included. It must really suck to be a fan out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SJCheechoo14 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Yeah, great weather all year round, multiple sports options, hockey included. It must really suck to be a fan out there. Actually California heat gets kind of old after a while. I actually prefer the cold, but I don't live where it snows and stuff so I guess I wouldn't really know what weather like that is like to live with. But yeah, the heat reaally sucks. Especially in the summer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Oh, snow gets old really fast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SJCheechoo14 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Oh, snow gets old really fast Funny thing...if you live in heat you really hate it and wish you lived where it snows, you live in the snow you learn to hate it and wish you lived where its hot....I dont like the heat cause its hard to get out of. You can use fans and airconditioning and stuff, but that costs a lot of money and doesnt always work. At least when it's cold you can throw blankets around you along with about a million pairs of clothes and sit in front of a fire sipping hot cocoa....lol oh and you get to build snowmen and all that crap....and I just noticed i'm going off topic. I'm sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 The seasonal changes ARE nice, all four of 'em: almost winter, winter, still winter and road construction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckette 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 The seasonal changes ARE nice, all four of 'em: almost winter, winter, still winter and road construction. That's hilarious! BTW, I LOVE your sig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SJCheechoo14 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 The seasonal changes ARE nice, all four of 'em: almost winter, winter, still winter and road construction. lol..we had heat even during winter this year. Our weather was really whacked out. It would be raining hard one day and completely sunny and hot the next day. I think we had like a week of rain total all year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsgirl001 983 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 If the Ducks win the Cup and I have to sit there and watch Pronger hoist that thing over his head, I think I'll liiterally :puke: Especially after last night. GO SENS! The seasonal changes ARE nice, all four of 'em: almost winter, winter, still winter and road construction. HAHA! Nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 That's hilarious! BTW, I LOVE your sig Thanks, but I can't take credit for it, it's not original. It's from a list of "You Might Be From Michigan iF..." That list also includes: "You often switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day," and "You have more miles on your snow blower than your car." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckette 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Thanks, but I can't take credit for it, it's not original. It's from a list of "You Might Be From Michigan iF..." That list also includes: "You often switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day," and "You have more miles on your snow blower than your car." I've read some of those before. I've lived in Ohio before (I know, I'm just digging myself a deeper hole here ) And we just used a shovel and ice pick, never a snow blower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Oh, snow gets old really fast Come on Offsides. It doesn't snow in Southeast Michigan. You must live on the west side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Wasn't it Geztlaft who made the vicious cross check from behind to an Ottawa player last night? I admit that I didn't watch the game. I don't want to be a rating to that kind of dirty hockey! Mister Sandman, unless you have a Neilsen box atop your telly, you DO realize that the ratings gods won't know, nor do they care, what you watch on telly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Wasn't it Geztlaft who made the vicious cross check from behind to an Ottawa player last night? I admit that I didn't watch the game. I don't want to be a rating to that kind of dirty hockey! Or the 6 straight to the back of the Sens player in Game 1 (i believe) before he got called. Come on Offsides. It doesn't snow in Southeast Michigan. You must live on the west side. \m/ westside representing, YO! <-- which is of course the stronger and better side of detroit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 \m/ westside representing, YO! <-- which is of course the stronger and better side of detroit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Actually California heat gets kind of old after a while. I actually prefer the cold, but I don't live where it snows and stuff so I guess I wouldn't really know what weather like that is like to live with. But yeah, the heat reaally sucks. Especially in the summer At least it isn't Fresno or Sacramento. We're usually a good 10-30 degrees cooler (like now -- 70-75F vs. 90-100F). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SJCheechoo14 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 At least it isn't Fresno or Sacramento. We're usually a good 10-30 degrees cooler (like now -- 70-75F vs. 90-100F). haha yeah I guess that's true. I'd hate to live there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SJCheechoo14 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 At least it isn't Fresno or Sacramento. We're usually a good 10-30 degrees cooler (like now -- 70-75F vs. 90-100F). haha yeah I guess that's true. I'd hate to live there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 Right, and I would be a hypocrite if I watch the game while telling everyone I refuse to watch such a goon-fest. Consider this a personal stand against goon hockey. I want talent back into the game. I'll tell you the same thing I tell my self-disenfranchised aacquaintances: If you don't exercise your right to vote, you cannot then turn around and righteously exercise your right to *****.... ...because that's hypocrisy of the worst sort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 I'm happy to be a part of that 22 percent down from last year's rating in the SCFs. ...and we can thank the Ducks! No, you can thank the fact that another boring matchup is this years SCF's once again. As if Edmonton-Carolina wasn't bad enough, it follows up with Ottawa-Anaheim. Unless you live in either of these cities, or are a true hockey fan, nobodys going to watch a matchup like this. Anaheim and Ottawa? Give me a break. I'm still watching it, but I still wish we'd see a good final again, with big market teams. Face it, this may be a purist type comment, but Original 6 teams in the SCF are going to draw money and ratings. Teams like Detroit, Chicago, NY Rangers, Toronto, Boston, and Montreal are going to draw far better ratings then teams like Anaheim, Carolina, Tampa Bay, or most other southern market teams. It's the truth, and I think a fair amount of people are going to agree with me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRockit 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 While that may be true in Politics, that is far from the truth in Hockey. Don't be so literal, luv, t'was metaphor..... an analogy, a simile, a synecdoche, an allegory, a parable as 't'were... Merely a device to free you from your stubborn, albeit oddly and eejitly somehow noble refusal to watch a game because you don't approve the reality of it. To fly down from the literary boughs: quite honestly, I believe you have little right to comment on any SCF game, nor the behavior of any player therein, because you didn't watch the play. I lend you no credibility on this point whatsoever, although I do believe that you have, in general, opinions that are worthy of consideration. But not on the SCF. You didn't watch, therefore by example, you cannot now *****. You forfeited your right to that by your own choice. Just sayin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 No, you can thank the fact that another boring matchup is this years SCF's once again. As if Edmonton-Carolina wasn't bad enough, it follows up with Ottawa-Anaheim. Unless you live in either of these cities, or are a true hockey fan, nobodys going to watch a matchup like this. Anaheim and Ottawa? Give me a break. I'm still watching it, but I still wish we'd see a good final again, with big market teams. Face it, this may be a purist type comment, but Original 6 teams in the SCF are going to draw money and ratings. Teams like Detroit, Chicago, NY Rangers, Toronto, Boston, and Montreal are going to draw far better ratings then teams like Anaheim, Carolina, Tampa Bay, or most other southern market teams. It's the truth, and I think a fair amount of people are going to agree with me. I do agree with your numbers. But why should I care if the NHL Stanley Cup Finals get SuperBowl TV ratings or if they get LPGA ratings? I hate to single your post out, but I am confused, and tired of hearing about the NHL's popularity, and I didn't want to start a seperate thread on the subject. Why should I care about the TV ratings? I'm willing to learn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeymom95 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2007 (edited) No, you can thank the fact that another boring matchup is this years SCF's once again. As if Edmonton-Carolina wasn't bad enough, it follows up with Ottawa-Anaheim. Unless you live in either of these cities, or are a true hockey fan, nobodys going to watch a matchup like this. Anaheim and Ottawa? Give me a break. I'm still watching it, but I still wish we'd see a good final again, with big market teams. Face it, this may be a purist type comment, but Original 6 teams in the SCF are going to draw money and ratings. Teams like Detroit, Chicago, NY Rangers, Toronto, Boston, and Montreal are going to draw far better ratings then teams like Anaheim, Carolina, Tampa Bay, or most other southern market teams. It's the truth, and I think a fair amount of people are going to agree with me. Actually the players on Carolina, Tampa Bay, Anaheim, Nashville, etc. DON'T agree with you. There was an article the other day in which Teemu and other Ducks talked about how great it was that after 2002, it wasn't predictable who would be in the SCF. It showed how the smaller markets couldn't match the buying power of teams like Detroit's 2002 Red Wings teams and showed the differences in salaries between that team and others like Anaheim, etc. It pointed out how parity in the NHL is like it is in the NFL now with more different teams going to the SCF like more different teams going to the Super Bowl. You may not like it or agree with it, but the players like it, and after all, it is THEIR game. THEY are the ones playing for the Cup and the dream, not us fans. If THEY like it and don't feel that it's hurt the game, then that really is all that should matter to us, THEIR fans, right? Edited June 3, 2007 by hockeymom95 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 4, 2007 Actually the players on Carolina, Tampa Bay, Anaheim, Nashville, etc. DON'T agree with you. There was an article the other day in which Teemu and other Ducks talked about how great it was that after 2002, it wasn't predictable who would be in the SCF. It showed how the smaller markets couldn't match the buying power of teams like Detroit's 2002 Red Wings teams and showed the differences in salaries between that team and others like Anaheim, etc. It pointed out how parity in the NHL is like it is in the NFL now with more different teams going to the SCF like more different teams going to the Super Bowl. You may not like it or agree with it, but the players like it, and after all, it is THEIR game. THEY are the ones playing for the Cup and the dream, not us fans. If THEY like it and don't feel that it's hurt the game, then that really is all that should matter to us, THEIR fans, right? Ooh boy. Theres more parity. Do you really think most fans give a flying f*** if lame ass market teams can compete? As I understand, the fans are the ones where the money comes from. Isn't the fans that pay for admissions? Tickets? Concessions? I don't see any of the players paying for it. Most people would rather see a Detroit/Toronto final or a Chicago/NY Rangers final than an Anaheim/Carolina final. It's a simple as that. The fans is where the money comes from. If there are no fans, then where exactly is this money going to come from? Out of nowhere? As strange as it may seem, the NHL owners don't have endless pockets. This is why they make people pay money to attend games. Shocking logic isn't it? You can give me your speech about the players and what not, but without the fans, there is no money coming in, and there is no team. Most fans would rather see a big market SCF, and so far, for at least the past 4-5 years, that hasn't been the case. I do agree with your numbers. But why should I care if the NHL Stanley Cup Finals get SuperBowl TV ratings or if they get LPGA ratings? I hate to single your post out, but I am confused, and tired of hearing about the NHL's popularity, and I didn't want to start a seperate thread on the subject. Why should I care about the TV ratings? I'm willing to learn. From an honest standpoint here. Would you rather see an Original 6 SCF, like Detroit/Toronto or Chicago/NY Rangers, or a nowhere SCF like Anaheim/Carolina or Nashville/Tampa Bay? If said the first one, then theres your answer, and it's the point I'm trying to make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted June 4, 2007 1st post after reading for years..... THe wings were unlucky against the ducks, and were far more effective than ottowa have been so far, showing more balls and being more aggressive in all areas....BUT the ducks have been very impressive this year and playoffs, so there is no shame in losing to them. Lets face it, this is by far the best playoff performance by the wings since 02, so babs has done his job....sadly jiggy did us again, but its a shame we didn't got hrough as Wings vs Sens would have been a great potntially high scoring series. Still - we showed we have the squad to compete, and who can argue that out of the pre-cap powers the wings have been by far the most successful in adjusting...continuing to re-load rather than re-build. If we can get a quality scoring winger to replace the departing lang, and keep most of the rest together we'll be good for next year too. It says somehting when the team does as well in realitiy as I do with them on Eastside hockey Manager or NHL 07! A couple of good UFA signings and we'll be in great shape. PS...nice to see Alfredsson doing the same as usual ...looking great when the team is on top and then going quiet when things are going badly....surely one of the oddest choices for captain in the NHL......great player but not clutch enough..was at fault for the game winner in 2 A vdry nice post after reading for years - welcome. I'm not sure why some people still cannot accept we lost the series. But all the points you made are valid - I'm damn proud of this team - and yes it hurts that we were that close - and seemingly could have beaten the Sens easier than the Ducks. It's not like this is the first time the Wings have lost a series when they played great. Hell, it feels much better than the past several years where we lost the series but you had this ugly feeling in your stomach because you know they didn't play their best....Next year will be exciting for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites