Pronger at it again: elbow to McAmmond's head

[akustyk 84]

6th career playoff suspension.

way to go, Campbell. if there is by chance a better way to say this league tolerates assholes, I'd like to know it.

disgusting

[Kp-Wings 3]

Colin Campbell must have had his balls mounted on his fireplace. Seriously, can he do something other then a one game suspension?

Note: One game suspensions are nothing more then a slap on the wrist. This is never going to get the message across, since Pronger is a stupid idiot anyways. Ugh.

On the brightside, it is something. In my opinion, it should have been more. I don't know, I guess it's mainly because I hate Pronger more than any NHL player (Tootoo is a close second), but I still feel one game is not enough to get the message across.

[OsGOD 3]

If that's the case, by your definition, we have hundreds of cheap shot artists in the league. Trying to figure out, aside of that hit from behind late in the game, what exactly you have to base this on. Trying to take your post with a bit of seriousness, rather than dismissing it as rabid anti-Getzlaf as rabid Duck fans are pro-Pronger.

His hits from behind... his rabid multiple cross checks... I have seen enough to know that his skills and ability could rival Petr the great.... Mad skillz tarnished by cheapshots. I don't think Ryan is a diver... but I am sure he would if he knew he could get away with it.

Edited June 3, 2007 by OsGOD

[esteef 2,679]

1 GAME!!!! Seriously. How many players have been suspended twice in one Stanely Cup Playoffs. I am off to look that up...

Not just suspended twice, but was allowed to return after the second suspension!

f*** Pronger.

esteef

[sibiriak 84]

For people who think that is a suspentional hit. Your delusional. Nothing more then two minute elbowing penalty should have been called.

I hope you jest. Watch the hit again. It is almost as bad as the Domi's elbow on Scott Niedermayer (incidentally ) few years ago.

Chara has actually had quite a few instances of it this past season, but no ones makes anything of it because its Chara. Really in those pics, his elbow doesn't extended that far out. While it was a bad hit, I don't think he should be put to crucified for it.

Provide a few examples of Chara elbowing people in the head please?

I didn't think so.

[Guest bullocks]

I hope you jest. Watch the hit again. It is almost as bad as the Domi's elbow on Scott Niedermayer (incidentally ) few years ago.

Provide a few examples of Chara elbowing people in the head please?

I didn't think so.

if that hit drew a game. then the holmstrom hit should have drew 3.

[yoops14 0]

Randy Carlyle: “We think it was totally unintentional. The league thought different,†Carlyle said. “Chris Pronger is a competitive player. Some people will say he’s using his size as an excuse.

“The fact of the matter is his elbows are higher than most people’s elbows. It’s not like he raised his elbow to deliver a blow to the head.â€Â

WOW...only a matter of time before the "physics" of Chris Pronger's unfortunate situation came back around. Oh, poor Chris, he's such a big guy, he can't help it. Um, what? I replayed the clip again and again and one thing kept coming back to me...he wasn't even skating for the puck. He wait for McAmmond, literally stopped skating and delivered the elbow to his head. Those are the facts. I'm just upset it wasn't more for the repeat offender that he is.

[Guest Shoreline]

Any progress? Because I fully agree with you and everyone else. The NHL has become such a bad, tired, joke.

Well, the politics of it, yes. Think most of us (even some of the Duck fans that post here) are in consensus that Pronger should be gone the series.

With the officiating, it's a lose/lose. Reffing in every sport that has penalties (NHL/NBA/NFL/MLS) is going to be inconsistent. However, it's the policy specifically driving the NHL referees, from Toronto, that stinks. It's also the league's slow adaptation to how the game has evolved. From the issue with visors, to automatic icing, not coming down onto cheap shots and end of game goonery, and penalizing enforcers, they won't address them to the need of both the players and fans. This is what hurts.

[lou 0]

Remember we're currently 0-5 on the road and now with no Chris Pronger anything could go either way to both teams especially to Ottawa.

eh... i still say ducks will be better knowing they are down a top D man and on the road ur right either way it can go... but i still hope they pull it off . i wanna see them win it at home with the least amount of stress towards me as possible

Edited June 3, 2007 by lou

[evil204 4]

Serves him right. I hope Pronger blows the season for his team.

Then, his value will go down, and the Wings can sign him :-D

[DuckFan 0]

Please excuse Duckette's non-informal knowledge of hockey since she barely knows what she's talking about. I think from her standpoint she is making us Ducks fans look bad at your Wings forum and I would greatly appreciate if you would at times correct her since she does overlap at times.

[Creasemonkey 30]

I sincerely doubt that if Pronger had surgery to remove 3-4 inches from his legs, he'd be any less dirty.

Also, Brian Burke crying another river about this is getting old. Does any GM in the league ***** more than this guy does?

[RedRockit 0]

If that's the case, by your definition, we have hundreds of cheap shot artists in the league. Trying to figure out, aside of that hit from behind late in the game, what exactly you have to base this on. Trying to take your post with a bit of seriousness, rather than dismissing it as rabid anti-Getzlaf as rabid Duck fans are pro-Pronger.

OsGod's right re Getzlaf, and I'm a fan of the lad. If you want a truly unbiased POV, my best friend is anti-Wing and pro-Duck (at least in this series, she wants the Sens humbled is all), and we have had several convos about him, loving his play, his potential, and deploring his propensity for cheapshotting cross checking. It's very, very blatant, and has gotten more so the longer the POs run.

[OsGOD 3]

I find it pathetic that Pronger is even mentioned as a Norris Contender.

Imagine if Lidstrom actually had to play like this to get nods. That defintely shows who is the actual skilled defensemen are.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Being suspended twice in the same playoffs for dirty hits tells me two things:

Pronger always plays on the edge of being dirty (no surprise).

The fact that neither hit he was suspended for was even penalized leads me to believe he's getting leeway from the refs.

It's the Derian Hatcher strategy, which has proved effective. He does something that warrants a penalty practically every shift. Eventually the refs stop whistling him for every single thing and he starts getting away with it.

Hatcher has removed players' teeth with a crosscheck to the face and not been whistled. Pronger now seems to move in that elite circle.

[Guest Shoreline]

His hits from behind... his rabid multiple cross checks... I have seen enough to know that his skills and ability could rival Petr the great.... Mad skillz tarnished by cheapshots. I don't think Ryan is a diver... but I am sure he would if he knew he could get away with it.

Problem is I've watched him too, dating as far back as when he was in juniors. He's not a cheap shot artist. He plays tough hockey. So when you say things like this, it would be nice to provide real examples, which games, proof. We have all the proof in the world that Pronger is a cheap shot goon-ass, but aside of that one hit from behind (how many people actually do this at least a couple times in their careers? hundreds of players do), and playing in an intense set of series', explain how Getzlaf is anything more of a cheap shot artist than, say, Chris Neil, or Joe Thornton, or Darcy Tucker, or Willie Mitchell, or countless other players that sometimes commit dirty hits when playing the game at full intensity. I'm just calling you out on the lack of fairness and objectivity in your post. I hate Getzlaf as much as any other Wings fan, but you're clearly incorrect about him.

I find it pathetic that Pronger is even mentioned as a Norris Contender.

Imagine if Lidstrom actually had to play like this to get nods. That defintely shows who is the actual skilled defensemen are.

It's clearly statistics based. The Ducks have been equally (if not more) effective without him as with him.

Edited June 3, 2007 by Shoreline

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Here's hoping the Sens do what the Wings couldn't. Make Pronger pay for his cheapshot, and use this as a turning point in the series.

[Sergei Fedorov91 24]

No , but I wouldn't mind seeing him hit by a hitman.

Maybe next year when the Ducks play the Wings we can sign Anders Erikkson to a one game contract and tell him just to shoot slap shots at Pronger. That was Erikkson wasn't it?

[RedRockit 0]

Please excuse Duckette's non-informal knowledge of hockey since she barely knows what she's talking about. I think from her standpoint she is making us Ducks fans look bad at your Wings forum and I would greatly appreciate if you would at times correct her since she does overlap at times.

Duckfan, you're wrong about Duckette, she's a great addition to this forum. Mature beyond her years, and generally very well informed.

She's made Duckfans look like GENIUSES here, considering.

Edited June 3, 2007 by RedRockit

[lou 0]

Wow... repeat offender over and over again... he should be banned from the NHL for a year or at least have his elbows cut off.

its not like he paralyized a guy o wait didnt one of the wings players do that while he was on another team?

o and i did expect the NHL to suspend pronger for the rest of playoffs but 1 game... ill take that 2

Edited June 3, 2007 by lou

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

LOL @ PRONGER

[Guest Shoreline]

Here's hoping the Sens do what the Wings couldn't. Make Pronger pay for his cheapshot, and use this as a turning point in the series.

:beerbuddy:

Cheers to that. I hope. We don't want Lord Stanley's Cup soiled by the dirty hands of Pronger.

its not like he paralyized a guy o wait didnt one of the wings players do that while he was on another team?

[OsGOD 3]

Problem is I've watched him too, dating as far back as when he was in juniors. He's not a cheap shot artist. He plays tough hockey. So when you say things like this, it would be nice to provide real examples, which games, proof. We have all the proof in the world that Pronger is a cheap shot goon-ass, but aside of that one hit from behind (how many people actually do this at least a couple times in their careers? hundreds of players do), and playing in an intense set of series', explain how Getzlaf is anything more of a cheap shot artist than, say, Chris Neil, or Joe Thornton, or Darcy Tucker, or Willie Mitchell, or countless other players that sometimes commit dirty hits when playing the game at full intensity. I'm just calling you out on the lack of fairness and objectivity in your post. I hate Getzlaf as much as any other Wings fan, but you're clearly incorrect about him.

It's clearly statistics based. The Ducks have been equally (if not more) effective without him as with him.

He is on the road to becoming a evil sith lord.... he has the options to change, but so far in is young stint as an NHL preformer he is becoming more and more of a cheapshot type of player. Sure he might not have been in the minors (thats a whole other ball game there). From what he is demonstarting so early in his noobie NHL career... he has the ability to become the same type of goon that Pronger is after his several more years in the NHL. His play is getting dirtier and dirtier... No one really starts out being pure evil... they grow and adjust their play according... There is a difference between playing tough hockey and knocking guys repeatedly from behind in order to make plays. Getsalaugh does the former A LOT.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

its not like he paralyized a guy o wait didnt one of the wings players do that while he was on another team?

Severity and repetition are two very different things.

[esteef 2,679]

its not like he paralyized a guy o wait didnt one of the wings players do that while he was on another team?

point?

Bert WAS suspended, for a long time, AND owned up to it in the media. How again is this relevant?

Edited June 3, 2007 by esteef