BigTex 1 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=211308&hubname=nhl The Sabres are going to be cap constrained this year, why not make him an offer? We need a good winger that can finish and he was 5th in the league this year. That's better than any Wing did. I say offer him 2 mil/yr for 3 yrs. It couldn't hurt. I'm not sure about how many picks or what round they'd be that we'd have to give back in return though. Anyone know that info? If it's a 2nd or 3rd I say go for it. Edited June 20, 2007 by BigTex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Vanek is worth at least 5 million. 2 million a year? Not happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 I'd love to see the Wings get him. He'd be worth whatever picks we would give up, but with the cap I don' think there would be any way we could afford him and be able to fill our current holes with quality players. I'd also be surprised if Buffalo let him go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Vanek is worth at least 5 million. 2 million a year? Not happening. I would hope he doesn't get $5 million, that's a bit much for 1 good year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Vanek is exactly what the Wings need, but there's no chance Holland's going to sign a RFA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Buffalo is going to lose some top tier guys. They will not be able to afford Drury, Vanek, and Briere, let alone Roy, Numminen and Conklin. I know Conklin isn't that great but you need some form of a back up netminder. And Numminen and Roy played important roles, not that they were the reason for them being one of the top teams but still, you need grinders too!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jaytan Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Vanek is very good, but I don't see the Wings even bothering to try this. They don't have the room to go after RFAs, and they also have more pressing needs than what Vanek can fill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Holland would never do that. Him and Darcy Regier are pretty good friends, so why would he want to burn bridges like that? Buffalo would match anyways, and all that would lead to is Regier being pissed off, and a lot of other GM's for that matter too, since many of them don't like people who throw offer sheets at players. I don't want Holland turning into Bobby Clarke part deux. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTex 1 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Depending on how the other signings go they may not have the room for him. Probably go to arbitration if that happened, then possibly walk away. Maybe we just wait for that. If Holland and Regier are such good friends then maybe he can just ask him if he wants to keep him if they sink most of their salary into their top UFA's. 3.5 mil/yr maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotvm 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 i doubt buffalo lets him go, hes only going to get better. id argue that hes a bigger priority for them then briere is due to their age. but i do agree with 5 mil being a little high for one good season. id say 3-4 mil is more appropriate. wish the wings could get him though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 20, 2007 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=211308&hubname=nhl The Sabres are going to be cap constrained this year, why not make him an offer? We need a good winger that can finish and he was 5th in the league this year. That's better than any Wing did. I say offer him 2 mil/yr for 3 yrs. It couldn't hurt. I'm not sure about how many picks or what round they'd be that we'd have to give back in return though. Anyone know that info? If it's a 2nd or 3rd I say go for it. He's a 40-goal scorer. He'll demand top-dollar, and he deserves it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turretin 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 He's a 40-goal scorer. He'll demand top-dollar, and he deserves it. ...and he's young. No way the Sabres give him up without a fight. He is one of the most impressive members of their team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringHomeTheCup! 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Everything I have read says Buffalo will keep him. If it comes down to Danny or Vanek, it seems Buffalo would take Vanek. Not a bad move, he is younger, and has a lot more potential. He will get at least $3.5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadienhater 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=211308&hubname=nhl The Sabres are going to be cap constrained this year, why not make him an offer? We need a good winger that can finish and he was 5th in the league this year. That's better than any Wing did. I say offer him 2 mil/yr for 3 yrs. It couldn't hurt. I'm not sure about how many picks or what round they'd be that we'd have to give back in return though. Anyone know that info? If it's a 2nd or 3rd I say go for it. I remeber it being 5 first round picks it least it was in 1998 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 I would hope he doesn't get $5 million, that's a bit much for 1 good year. 2 good years and he's yet to play with a #1 center yet. Vanek will score 50 goals many times in his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turretin 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 I would give him a 5M for 5 years if I was his GM. No joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Well 5 million may be too high, but it isn't unheard of. I could see an inclining contract (I don't know the fancy terms for it), but in this contract I could see him getting maybe 5.5 in his final season in the contract. You can say he had one brilliant season, but I think he had a great rookie season too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted June 20, 2007 I say its a must. Vanek would be a perfect addition to this team. I don't think its gonna happen. But I would be so down if it did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 I remeber it being 5 first round picks it least it was in 1998 Damn if reimbursement is that steep, he definately isn't going anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringHomeTheCup! 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) Damn if reimbursement is that steep, he definately isn't going anywhere. Compensation sucks, here is what it is: $0-$551,076 - No comp $551,076 - $757,729 - 3rd round $775,729 - $895,498 - 2nd round $895,498 - $1,102,152 - 1st round $1,102,152 - $1,377,689 - 1st and a 3rd round $1,377,689 - 1,653,277 - 1st and a 2nd round $1,653,277 - $1,928,765 - two 1st round $1,928,765 - $2,342,071 - two 1st round, one 2nd round $ 2,342,071 - three 1st round Each additional $1,377,689 - One additional 1st round pick, to a max of five. This means that any contract that pays more than $5,097,448 would cost a team five 1st round picks. Edited June 20, 2007 by BringHomeTheCup! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted June 21, 2007 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=211308&hubname=nhl The Sabres are going to be cap constrained this year, why not make him an offer? We need a good winger that can finish and he was 5th in the league this year. That's better than any Wing did. I say offer him 2 mil/yr for 3 yrs. It couldn't hurt. I'm not sure about how many picks or what round they'd be that we'd have to give back in return though. Anyone know that info? If it's a 2nd or 3rd I say go for it. Isn't this what Bobby Clarke tried to pull with Ryan Kesler last year? From what I gathered most GM's were pissed off that he did it (even though it isn't against the rules......sort of like hair pulling in a hockey fight though, no-no) and one even said he couldn't wait for Richards and Carter to become RFA's. Think about it, Clarke forced Vancouver to overpay Kesler. Do we want Holland to stare down the barrel of that gun someday when the shoe is on the other foot? There's a reason why GM's don't do it and I agree with it b/c it may work for you one day but an eye for an eye is a real ***** of a policy and it'll get you in the end. Karma is like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringHomeTheCup! 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 Isn't this what Bobby Clarke tried to pull with Ryan Kesler last year? From what I gathered most GM's were pissed off that he did it (even though it isn't against the rules......sort of like hair pulling in a hockey fight though, no-no) and one even said he couldn't wait for Richards and Carter to become RFA's. Think about it, Clarke forced Vancouver to overpay Kesler. Do we want Holland to stare down the barrel of that gun someday when the shoe is on the other foot? There's a reason why GM's don't do it and I agree with it b/c it may work for you one day but an eye for an eye is a real ***** of a policy and it'll get you in the end. Karma is like that. I don't know if as and NHL GM, I would really care if the other GM's were upset with me about doing what Clarke did. It was a very savvy move. It happens all the time in baseball. It's smart business. The time will come when Kenny pays more than he wants to in order to retain a RFA. Oh wait, that already happened with Sergei way back when.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Production Line 1 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 This is just so Buff has the rughts to match any offer... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 The time will come when Kenny pays more than he wants to in order to retain a RFA. Oh wait, that already happened with Sergei way back when.... The difference is that Sergei was still paid below his market value. He was the best player in the league and wasn't paid like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 The difference is that Sergei was still paid below his market value. He was the best player in the league and wasn't paid like it. Yeah he got the 28 mil up front but I'm sure they felt that was ok since they won the cup. And his base salary was 2 mil a year for the following 5 years. Not bad for what he did. It was probably better that they did get to the conference finals and had to pay him that because I believe the rest of that money would have been spread out over the length of the contract am I correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
