Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 I'm down for Yashin Sign him up Kenny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) Kenny gambled and lost on a top 6 forward up to this point, he can't go into the season without adding another Top 6 type guy. If we were rebuilding, we wouldn't have brought in Hasek and signed Rafalski. We are playing to win while rebuilding. The only way to do that sucessfully is to have veterans in the locker room. As much as I like Hudler, Fillpula, etc. they need mentorship. Huh? When exactly do you expect the roster to open up for Hudler, Filpula and the rest? If the Wings want to see non-25 year old players blossom on the team they need to give them some decent ice time in their second years if not their rookie years, don't you agree? Filling up the roster with short term players isn't a great idea if we want to give the kids a chance. I think the Wings need to enter the season with this roster, give our young kids a chance to get 15 mins in a game and watch the progress. If the scoring doesn't pick up we're still going to make the playoffs and have tons of cash to make a big deadline aquisition. Look what Filp and Huds did with a max of 10 mins of ice time last season. Imagine what they can do with 50% more ice time, 82 games and the possibility of some pp time. And why can't Dats and Hank mentor the young players? EDIT: Let's not forget how sweeeeet the UFA market is next year- it'd be nice to pick one of those gems up at the deadline and sign them up as a long term member of the club if they work out. I'm all for picking up players that'll be helping the team and appearing in signatures/avatars here on the forums 3 years from now as well as next April. Edited July 11, 2007 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 Ok for those who keep saying that Fedorov is a money ***** are pretty blind. He left for 4 million less. Detroit offered him 10 million a year and he took 6 mill from the ducks. Before you start critizing others, you should probably check your numbers. Sergei was reportedly offered a 5 year, $50 million contract earlier that year, but I think the dollar amounts and length of contract fell by the end of the year. Also, he signed with the Ducks for $8 million, not $6 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Covenant 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 Before you start critizing others, you should probably check your numbers. Sergei was reportedly offered a 5 year, $50 million contract earlier that year, but I think the dollar amounts and length of contract fell by the end of the year. Also, he signed with the Ducks for $8 million, not $6 million. Um, not to be a jerk.. but why the hell is all this Sergei talk in the Yashin thread? They're both overpaid/lazy/Russian hockey players? Kidding. I don't think he'll come to the Wings, he is used to a certain amount of cashola on his paycheck, and if I'm not mistaken don't hockey players in Russia get their housing free, and TAX-FREE income? I think he'll go that route instead of eventually pouting on some NHL team that takes a gamble on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 If Yashin signs I will s*** myself, then mail my s***ty underwear to KH..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 Um, not to be a jerk.. but why the hell is all this Sergei talk in the Yashin thread? They're both overpaid/lazy/Russian hockey players? Covenant! *smacks you* :!: lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 I can't imagine the Wings wasting upwards of 4 mil of cap space on him and I also can't imagine Yashin signing for 2 mil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 why would we want a russian version of Lang. thats what I don't understand... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob the Badger 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 The comparison between Yashin and Feds are fair. They do have a few things in common. They both have sat out when they've had contract and money issues. IE. GREED. They both are regular season scoring threats. But Feds comes to play in the play offs. He was a major contributor to Detroit's winning their championships. The same can't be said for Yashin. He has a history of disappearing during the play offs. I look back at his days in Ottawa and pity the team that would sign this locker room cancer. Please... please... for the love of all that is good and holy, don't sign Yashin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Covenant 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 Covenant! *smacks you* :!: lol Offsides!! *hugs you* Now take THAT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) Yashin claims that he'll play in Russia if he doesn't get some better contract offers from NHL teams soon. It speaks volumes that no team is offering him much, even the terrible teams with terrible GMs. Edited July 11, 2007 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Covenant 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 Big surprise: Yashin Not Happy With Offers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 The comparison between Yashin and Feds are fair. They do have a few things in common. They both have sat out when they've had contract and money issues. IE. GREED. They both are regular season scoring threats. But Feds comes to play in the play offs. He was a major contributor to Detroit's winning their championships. The same can't be said for Yashin. He has a history of disappearing during the play offs. I look back at his days in Ottawa and pity the team that would sign this locker room cancer. Please... please... for the love of all that is good and holy, don't sign Yashin! I don't necessarily think Yashin is a cancer to the lockerroom (just like everyone liked to say about Lang lol). And really, Fedorov and Yashin aren't the same AT ALL. I like both players....well like Yashin..love Fedorov..but they aren't the same at all. You can call them both greedy or whatever but even their circumstances were different for that. Fedorov's overall game is much better than Yashin's. I just...I think they're being compared because they are both Russian. If Yashin was Canadian we'd never see the comparison. Offsides!! *hugs you* Now take THAT! LOL, aww, I can't even stay mad at you for your mean Sergei talk haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spydrwebb 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 Oh and for those mentioning incentive-based contracts, I thought I read on another board that you have to be over 35 for performance bonuses. So it is not possible to do for Yashin. Here it is: "Players 35 and older as of June 30 in the League Year that they sign a contract may earn performance bonuses, as well as players with 400 or more games played and who spent 100 or more days on injured reserve in the last year of their most recent contract; however, in these two cases, performance bonuses are only allowed for 1-year contracts. If players in these two categories sign a multi-year contract, they cannot earn performance bonuses." http://www.nhlscap.com/cap_faq.htm#bonuses good to know, thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingMachine91 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 it really is a catch 22 with us right now. which russian do we go for. We get yashin now, our team will be better and we lose feds, or do we be patient(i would preffer this) and go with what we got and hopefully get feds at the deadline. the only problem is people are automatically assuming we will get him. if u remember correctly the prices for these deadline deals were crazy last year and im sure sergei will have alot of interest. so i can see us giving up a prospect and the likes of a second rounder. so it really is a catch 22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 We have to look towards the playoffs though, which player will better our chances to win the Cup? Feds or Yashin? I would go with Fedorov... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted July 11, 2007 We have to look towards the playoffs though, which player will better our chances to win the Cup? Feds or Yashin? I would go with Fedorov... No question about it. Fedorov over Yashin any day of the week and 3 times on sunday. He is by far the superior hockey player. I would be so happy to have 91 back in the winged wheel. No hard feelings in my book. Does anyone know if we actually do have interest in Feds???? Or is this all just hypothetical talk. Im just curious if there is any substance to these rumors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 it really is a catch 22 with us right now. which russian do we go for. We get yashin now, our team will be better and we lose feds, or do we be patient(i would preffer this) and go with what we got and hopefully get feds at the deadline. the only problem is people are automatically assuming we will get him. if u remember correctly the prices for these deadline deals were crazy last year and im sure sergei will have alot of interest. so i can see us giving up a prospect and the likes of a second rounder. so it really is a catch 22 The simple answer to that dilemma is sign neither. They both have proven that greed has ruled their actions and neither are the player they used to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 Big surprise: Yashin Not Happy With Offers Ahaha, I must say I'm shocked to hear this! Good riddance. I'll be able to sleep at night again the day I know Alexei Yashin will not be a Red Wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Production Line 1 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 Sign him...We have more talent then he has played with for years...Just think a .92 pts per game avg and allmost half his carreer with the Ilanders...only 33, playing for a contender, the influx of our youth...what could it hurt...barring that the banks not broken... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 Yashin and Smyth pale in comparison to Fedorov's 93 hits in 140 games. Solid evidence that "hits" is every bit as worthless and uninformative as "game winning goals" in the pantheon of Worst NHL Statistics Ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
