HOMER

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dont know if anyone else has noticed, but homers on pace to score 45 goals this season!!! sure its early but a quarter of the season is enough time to get a decent idea of how players could perform.

thoughts, predictions??

[96Homer 0]

I don't know about 45 goals but he may have another record season. He does already have ten which is truly amazing. Of course playing with Z and Dats helps anyone I say maybe 25-30 goals for homer if he keeps up the great work he's doing!

Edited November 21, 2007 by 96Homer

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dont know if anyone else has noticed, but homers on pace to score 45 goals this season!!! sure its early but a quarter of the season is enough time to get a decent idea of how players could perform.

thoughts, predictions??

Thoughts? I hate it when people say "he is on pace for...." What's the point? We all know he won't hit 45 goals. Speculation like that is pointless. He is riding the coattails of Hanks hot streak. Once Hank cools off (and he will) so will Homer, if you can even say he is hot.

Predictions? If Homer hits 30 it would be a surprise. He will most likely get 20-25. And next time I hear "so-and-so is on pace for...", I just might shoot myself.

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Thoughts? I hate it when people say "he is on pace for...." What's the point? We all know he won't hit 45 goals. Speculation like that is pointless. He is riding the coattails of Hanks hot streak. Once Hank cools off (and he will) so will Homer, if you can even say he is hot.

Predictions? If Homer hits 30 it would be a surprise. He will most likely get 20-25. And next time I hear "so-and-so is on pace for...", I just might shoot myself.

Why do you think that hitting 30 goals would be a surprise for Homer? In 05-06 he had 30 and in 06-07 he scored 29. Its not like he has never done it before. Its not Kopecky we're talking about here, its Homer.

No, he won't score 45 goals this season, but wouldn't it be cool if he did? More likely he will get in the neighborhood of 30 goals and continue to be a thorn in the side (and flatulence in the face) of goaltenders throughout the NHL.

[Grittzkey 1]

Homer is king, he will get 100 Goals.

[Earthhuman 8]

I think he'll score over 30, and he may even hit 40.

Remember Kerr? Remember Esposito?

They had Howe and obviously Orr.

Holmstrom has Lidstrom.

[Guest MrSandMan]

I wouldn't be surprised if homer has a career year.

[scotvm 0]

Thoughts? I hate it when people say "he is on pace for...." What's the point? We all know he won't hit 45 goals. Speculation like that is pointless. He is riding the coattails of Hanks hot streak. Once Hank cools off (and he will) so will Homer, if you can even say he is hot.

Predictions? If Homer hits 30 it would be a surprise. He will most likely get 20-25. And next time I hear "so-and-so is on pace for...", I just might shoot myself.

jesus man, just trying to start a little conversation about one of my favorite players. didnt mean to awaken any unresolved issues you may have.

GO HOMER!!!!! 38 goals 42 assists is my prediction

[toby91_ca 620]

Remember Esposito?

I remember Esposito, he won 5 scoring titles and scored 717 goals in the NHL. You are not comparing Holmstrom to Esposito are you?

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Why do you think that hitting 30 goals would be a surprise for Homer? In 05-06 he had 30 and in 06-07 he scored 29. Its not like he has never done it before. Its not Kopecky we're talking about here, its Homer.

No, he won't score 45 goals this season, but wouldn't it be cool if he did? More likely he will get in the neighborhood of 30 goals and continue to be a thorn in the side (and flatulence in the face) of goaltenders throughout the NHL.

He had two great (for Homer) years. He isn't a consistent 30 goal scored. 25 is a good year from him.

I think he'll score over 30, and he may even hit 40.

Remember Kerr? Remember Esposito?

They had Howe and obviously Orr.

Holmstrom has Lidstrom.

1. As previously mentioned, how are you comparing Homer to Espo?

2. How do you compare Lidstrom to Orr? Orr played a completely different style than Lidstrom does. Orr lead the NHL is scoring in 74-75, and his team several other seasons. Lidstroms best season was 80 points. Orr averaged 76 points, that includes 3 seasons where he played a total of 36 games, and amassed 45 points.

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I'll say he gets 30

[e_mcgrath88 0]

guarantee he scores atleast 35...

[wingslogo19 281]

guarantee he scores atleast 35...

And what if he doesn't

[Grittzkey 1]

NEWD PIKTARES PLZ@@ KEKEKE

haha just kidding.

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Thoughts? I hate it when people say "he is on pace for...." What's the point? We all know he won't hit 45 goals. Speculation like that is pointless. He is riding the coattails of Hanks hot streak. Once Hank cools off (and he will) so will Homer, if you can even say he is hot.

Predictions? If Homer hits 30 it would be a surprise. He will most likely get 20-25. And next time I hear "so-and-so is on pace for...", I just might shoot myself.

It would be a bit surprising if Homer doesn't get 30 goals, IMHO. For the past two seasons he has averaged pretty much 30 goals. He is off to a better start this year and is getting loads of time on the top line and on the PP. Yes, he will probably slow down, but also, he will probably have another hot streak at some point.

My guess: 35G + 25A

As for riding on Hank's coattails, sure Hank makes Homer a better player, but so does Dats, Lids, and Rafalski. Homer depends on rebounds and getting hard shots from the point. He has a specific role on his line, he knows it, and he plays it as well as he can. One could just as well argue that Hank would not have 16 assists if it weren't for Homer collecting rebounds and putting them in. Instead we might be complaining about Hank always hitting the goalie in the chest (like we do for Sammy, who also takes a lot of shots).

[rick zombo 3,739]

All I can say is that I'm really glad Homer's signed until the end of the 09/10 season at 2.25 M.

He and Zetterberg combined only make 5.15 M this season and next. So awesome for the team.

One could just as well argue that Hank would not have 16 assists if it weren't for Homer collecting rebounds and putting them in. Instead we might be complaining about Hank always hitting the goalie in the chest (like we do for Sammy, who also takes a lot of shots).

Except Hank's shots > than Sammy's shots.

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Except Hank's shots > than Sammy's shots.

Well, I wasn't intending to paint Z and Sammy with the same brush. No one doubts that Z>Sammy. My point was that Z (or any player who takes a lot of shots) will benefit from having a Homer-type player in front of the net. It's unfair to say that Homer is riding on Hank's coattails. It not that simple. Homer's play without the puck creates chances for other players and can give them assists when Homer does cleanup on rebounds.

Interestingly, I bet that Sammy would probably put up some decent numbers playing on a line with Dats and Homer.

Edit: added my final thought.

Edited November 21, 2007 by union drone

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Thoughts? I hate it when people say "he is on pace for...." What's the point? We all know he won't hit 45 goals. Speculation like that is pointless. He is riding the coattails of Hanks hot streak. Once Hank cools off (and he will) so will Homer, if you can even say he is hot.

Predictions? If Homer hits 30 it would be a surprise. He will most likely get 20-25. And next time I hear "so-and-so is on pace for...", I just might shoot myself.

Its not like its a road trip across the country where you put it on cruise control at 65mph and say "we're on pace to see the Wings in the Shark Tank at 4pm Firday". Seasons have there ups and downs. First quarter he scores 10 goals, second quarter who knows? You never know until the game is over, otherwise they would just do the math and figuring on paper so no one would ever get hurt. Thats why you've got to play the game.

Don't get me wrong, 10 goals at this point is awesome.

Just remember people: Ebb and Flow. ebb and flow...

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Well, I wasn't intending to paint Z and Sammy with the same brush. No one doubts that Z>Sammy. My point was that Z (or any player who takes a lot of shots) will benefit from having a Homer-type player in front of the net. It's unfair to say that Homer is riding on Hank's coattails. It not that simple. Homer's play without the puck creates chances for other players and can give them assists when Homer does cleanup on rebounds.

Interestingly, I bet that Sammy would probably put up some decent numbers playing on a line with Dats and Homer.

Edit: added my final thought.

I don't think it's unfair to say Homer is riding Hank's coattails. If Hank (or Pav for that matter) isn't creating opportunities Homer doesn't get the chance to score those 'garbage goals'. This is completely different from Sammy just throwing the puck at the net.

Undoubtedly, a player who shoots a lot would gain a decent amount of assists from playing with a guy like Homer. However, a guy like Homer is going to benefit much more from a player who takes higher quality shots and has the ability to draw multiple defenders.

Using you logic, Homer should benefit more from playing with Sammy and Rex since they both shoot a lot. There is no way you can sit there straight-faced and tell me Homer would do as well playing with Sammy and Rex as he does with Hank and Pav. For that matter, he would do as well with any combination of of Pav/Hank or Sammy/Rex.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

He had two great (for Homer) years. He isn't a consistent 30 goal scored. 25 is a good year from him.

False. Homer had 2 great years that consequently came when he was getting bona fide to 6 minutes, and not being buried on the 4th line playing big PP minutes a la Hudler.

Homer started scoring when he got the chance to play with the big boys. No, he cant carry a line, but continue to give him good linemates and hell put the biscuit in the basket, because he is a 30 goal scorer on a top line.

[BeeRYCE 2]

If Jason Blake can score 40, I don't see any reason Homer can't.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

He had two great (for Homer) years. He isn't a consistent 30 goal scored. 25 is a good year from him.

Thats kinda like saying that since Vinny Lecaviler only has had one 100 point season ( not including this one) that he wont be a consistant 100 point scorer fore the next couple years.

The reason Holmstrom wasent putting up those numbers b4 was depth. We had Dino C Lapointe and Robitallie before him in the exact possition. After 3 good seasons, and with these linemates 25 goals will be a letdown for him. Homer will finish with 35-40 goals at least this year.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

He had two great (for Homer) years. He isn't a consistent 30 goal scored. 25 is a good year from him.

Thats kinda like saying that since Vinny Lecaviler only has had one 100 point season ( not including this one) that he wont be a consistant 100 point scorer fore the next couple years.

The reason Holmstrom wasent putting up those numbers b4 was depth. We had Dino C Lapointe and Robitallie before him in the exact possition. After 3 good seasons, and with these linemates 25 goals will be a letdown for him. Homer will finish with 35-40 goals at least this year.

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Thats kinda like saying that since Vinny Lecaviler only has had one 100 point season ( not including this one) that he wont be a consistant 100 point scorer fore the next couple years.

The reason Holmstrom wasent putting up those numbers b4 was depth. We had Dino C Lapointe and Robitallie before him in the exact possition. After 3 good seasons, and with these linemates 25 goals will be a letdown for him. Homer will finish with 35-40 goals at least this year.

No, that would be like saying Vinny isn't a consistant 100 point guy, which would be true because he has only done it once. However, Vinny has a much better opportunity to become a consistent 100 point guy than Homer has of becoming a consistent 30 goal guy.

The reason Homer wasn't putting up these numbers had nothing to do with Dino. Homer never played on a Wings team with Dino. Lapointe was a third line guy who was and still is a lot more versatile than Homer. He did stand in front of the net on the pp, but it wasn't in the Homer/Dino fashion. To compare Robitaille, the highest scoring left wing in NHL history, to Homer is just foolish. However, he only played two seasons here in Detroit, and Homer was already the guy to stand in front of the net on the PP.

If anything, the guys who took away from Homer's points were Yzerman , Fedorov, Shanny. The guys who were getting the PT Homer is now.

Homer isn't a consistent 30 goal guy. I don't know what 3 seasons you are talking about that he did so well in, but he has had 2 good years. Before that, his highest point total was 40 points. Playing with Z and D, he should be about a 25/40 guy. But to have him score 30 consistently just isn't going to happen.

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

Homer isn't a consistent 30 goal guy. I don't know what 3 seasons you are talking about that he did so well in , but he has had 2 good years. Before that, his highest point total was 40 points. Playing with Z and D, he should be about a 25/40 guy. But to have him score 30 consistently just isn't going to happen.

I don't really see how you can say Homer has had only 2 good years with the Wings by just judging his point total. Sure, he didn't give you 30/30 a few years ago. But what the man did do was make it hell for the defense and the goalie. Without him being in front of the net (while getting a beating usually) I seriously doubt the Wings would've as much success. Also, he was a +8 and +11 in 03-04. So even though he wasn't scoring, it wasn't like he was doing a poor job.