wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 I listen to a sports show every night based out of Vancouver, its called sportstalk. Last night the host was talking about the penalty shot and how there have been 17 so far.. He was going on about it saying how he hated them. So he said they should change the rule, where the coach has the option of having his player take the shot or have the 2 min PP that's given... Thought? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 I think that would make things rather interesting...I dont see why it would hurt anything, although I would assume most coaches would go for the penalty shot anyway wouldnt they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnoldbuck 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 interesting concept ... but something about the penalty shot is so huge. Even with shoot outs these days, the penalty shot is still cool. And if the option for the PP was there, there would only be one or two guys on a team, who the coach would have faith in to give them a shot at the penalty shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicada 4 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 the PS is still a great feature of hockey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 I think that would make things rather interesting...I dont see why it would hurt anything, although I would assume most coaches would go for the penalty shot anyway wouldnt they? Yeah I was thinking about that last night.. You would think so.. But just this year 17 penalty shots have been taken. can someone answer this. How many have scored out of the 17? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 Yeah I was thinking about that last night.. You would think so.. But just this year 17 penalty shots have been taken. can someone answer this. How many have scored out of the 17? Success rate is a lot higher on a penalty shot than on the powerplay, that's all you need to know. Also, the penalty shot is taken and it's done. Why would you want to replace that with a 2 minute powerplay, that would make for more boring time. Don't we want less PP time??? Don't we want back and forth play and not simply playing in one end for 2 minutes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 (edited) A new proposal to further water down the game? SIGN ME UP, BABY! :rockstar: (Seriously, though: bad idea.) Edited November 28, 2007 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 Success rate is a lot higher on a penalty shot than on the powerplay, that's all you need to know. Also, the penalty shot is taken and it's done. Why would you want to replace that with a 2 minute powerplay, that would make for more boring time. Don't we want less PP time??? Don't we want back and forth play and not simply playing in one end for 2 minutes? BTW, its not my idea I only heard it on sports talk based in vancouver.. And its not that you get both, you get one or the other is what the host was saying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 its a great feature, but i dont really see why they would deny it, but i guess i can see if they had a bad shooter and the pp would give them a 5 on 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 Success rate is a lot higher on a penalty shot than on the powerplay, that's all you need to know. Also, the penalty shot is taken and it's done. Why would you want to replace that with a 2 minute powerplay, that would make for more boring time. Don't we want less PP time??? Don't we want back and forth play and not simply playing in one end for 2 minutes? Toby, is there a site that you know of that shows who scored this year and who hasn't in the penalty shot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 Toby, is there a site that you know of that shows who scored this year and who hasn't in the penalty shot? Not sure, I've never looked for it. There is a site that tracks shootout stats, but I haven't seen one for penalty shots. I have heard statistics for penalty shots that suggested the success rate was somewhere around 35% and the average success rate on the power play is less than half that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 I've always thought it would be great if the coaches could pick who shoots. Then again it's kinda like a smack in the face to whoever was actually going to take the shot isn't it? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saran 1 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 Take away the most exciting play in hockey ... no thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 I've always thought it would be great if the coaches could pick who shoots. Then again it's kinda like a smack in the face to whoever was actually going to take the shot isn't it? lol I have no idea why anyone is even talking about changing it up. The theory of the penalty shot is bascially giving the same opportunity that happened in the game, which was taken away back to that team. Putting a different player in there is changing that opportunity. Having a team select a powerplay changes that and degrades the game as far as I am concerned. The best game would be one with no penalties, so adding more powerplay time makes zero sense. Keep it as is, it replaces what was already happening in the game, no more, no less. Take the shot, move on with the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted November 28, 2007 Not sure, I've never looked for it. There is a site that tracks shootout stats, but I haven't seen one for penalty shots. I have heard statistics for penalty shots that suggested the success rate was somewhere around 35% and the average success rate on the power play is less than half that. Alright thanks Toby.. Never knew it was around that percent, but good to know By no means at all do i want the NHL to get rid of the penalty shot, I like it and its a exciting part of the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LivingtheDream Report post Posted November 29, 2007 (edited) Power plays are a dime a dozen, but penalty shots can be awesome. Remember Cleary last year in the playoffs? Man, that was HUGE and to see a guy be under so much pressure and pull through is what makes the sport so great. I think the only more lonely sports situation is a field goal kicker in a do or die game situation, but the penalty shot is a man vs man thing like no other sport. Edited November 29, 2007 by LivingtheDream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martyrme19 73 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 Am I alone on this where I thought that WAS the rule?? A coach already has a decision to take a penalty shot or a powerplay. Well, perhaps not.....however that IS the rule already in USA amateur hockey. Though i've never known a coach to select a powerplay instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PenaltyShot 96 521 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 I'd think any coach would pick the penalty shot. Not only is it more successful, exciting, and just plain awesome than a PP, but it gives one player a chance to be a hero. It's intense like a fight, only there's a chance to score: win-win for everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 Am I alone on this where I thought that WAS the rule?? A coach already has a decision to take a penalty shot or a powerplay. Well, perhaps not.....however that IS the rule already in USA amateur hockey. Though i've never known a coach to select a powerplay instead. That I didn't know... But anyone on the ice when the penatly shot was awarded can take it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yc172 3 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 They do that in high school hockey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 I listen to a sports show every night based out of Vancouver, its called sportstalk. Last night the host was talking about the penalty shot and how there have been 17 so far.. He was going on about it saying how he hated them. So he said they should change the rule, where the coach has the option of having his player take the shot or have the 2 min PP that's given... Thought? I've always thought that's a good idea. Give him the option. I alos think that a delay of game penalty for shooting the puck over the boards should only be 1 minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 I've always thought that's a good idea. Give him the option. I guess it's a sore spot with me, but I think it is the dumbest idea anyone could think of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 I guess it's a sore spot with me, but I think it is the dumbest idea anyone could think of. I wonder if there's a math genius around here who could tabulate the ratio of goals scored on penalty shots versus goals scored during a 2 minute penalty. I bet it might be closer than we think, and if it is, you might not think it's so dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 I wonder if there's a math genius around here who could tabulate the ratio of goals scored on penalty shots versus goals scored during a 2 minute penalty. I bet it might be closer than we think, and if it is, you might not think it's so dumb. Success rate on a penalty shot is double the success rate on a power play, but that has absolutely nothing to do with my position on this. If the PP was much more successful, I'd still think it is dumb to give the choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted November 29, 2007 Success rate on a penalty shot is double the success rate on a power play, but that has absolutely nothing to do with my position on this. If the PP was much more successful, I'd still think it is dumb to give the choice. Trust me Toby, I don't want it to change either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
