Simon gets 30 games

[Yzermania19 1]

Not nearly enough.

If he didn't learn from a record-setting 25 game suspension, why should the league think five more games will be the difference-maker? Oooh, he's getting "help" this time...give me a break.

I mean I'm glad he is getting help - he obviously has issues, but come on - seven previous suspensions did nothing. The league really needed to set a precedent that said "you do this kind of crap - try to injure someone - and we will end your season. We don't care who you are, you are done for the year."

I don't think anyone's debating that 30 games is a long time - it's almost 40% of the season - and under normal circumstances I'd agree with it. But this is Simon's eighth suspension. That he is a repeat offender alone is worth at least 10 games.

The NHL really needs to grow a pair.

[imisssergei 0]

The result of Simon's stomp wasn't as bad, but the stupidity involved is worse than the Flyer incidents, with probably the exception of Downie's hit.

But there's so many Flyers that have been suspended, I honestly can't remember them all right now.

The stupidity is worse? How so? Yes, it was a stupid thing to do, but worse case senario, we are talking about a player with a broken foot, maybe a bad cut. Nothing he can't recover from. In ever Flyer suspension this season, we are talking about potential life altering injuries, forget about recovering.

Was what Simon did stupid? Did it warrant a suspension? Was it dirty? Yes, yes, and yes. But how is it even remotely as stupid as what the Flyers players have done? Since you've forgotten, I'll remind you

Downie got 20 for the leaping hit on McCammond.

Boulerice got 25 for cross-checking Kesler in the face.

Jones got 2 games for the hit on Bergeron.

Hartnell got 2 games for the hit on Alberts.

Cote got 3 games for the head shot on Niskanen.

Simon got 30 for stomping on a players skate. This isn't even in the same league at a cross-check to the face or even the hit on Bergeron. I'm not advocating for Simon, I just think this suspension had more to do with who he is rather than what he did. I understand, and agree that repeat offenders should have a higher price to pay. However, I think this is far to stiff a penalty. 25 games, and a phsyciatric examination followed by the prescribed treatment. If the treatment calls for a longer period away from the game, then I'm all for it.

BTW, the longest suspenion in NHL history is the lifetime ban of Billy Coutu in 1927 for punching a ref after he started a brawl in Game 4 of the SCF. The ban was reversed about 5 years later. Coutu never played another NHL game he he was allowed to play in the minors.

[Opie 308]

imisssergei,

I see you point about being stupid, Boulerice cross checking a guy in the face is far and a way worse than what Simon did, and for Boulerice this was his second such stick to the face incident and I was calling for a lifetime ban for him.

Simon I see this as being a season ending suspension, again not so much because of the act itself, that was potentially career ending. If Ruutuu slips or moves without Simon knowing it, he may be looking to stomp on a boot, and end up slicing a guys tendon up for dinner.

But this was a culmination suspension, if he hadn't been suspended 7 times prior, first time act, I think 15-20 games would be legit.

The biggest problem is that Simon has been on the ice for 26 games after a 25 game suspension.

Using past history to make an inference that means this time he will be back 31-33 games before he does it again. (I know he may never do this again)

If you were suspended from you job, school, where ever whatever you do, for 25 days without pay, if you did a similar act a second, not 8th time, what do you think would happen to you. (Not you specifically you imisssergei this is more of a general statement)

[wingslogo19 281]

I just don't think he deserves to play another game. 7 times is way to many times.. They should have the repeat offender rule come in. I think the NHL needs to wake up. And Colin Campbell said that he didn't even consider suspending him for the rest of the season..

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

The stupidity is worse? How so? Yes, it was a stupid thing to do, but worse case senario, we are talking about a player with a broken foot, maybe a bad cut. Nothing he can't recover from. In ever Flyer suspension this season, we are talking about potential life altering injuries, forget about recovering.

Was what Simon did stupid? Did it warrant a suspension? Was it dirty? Yes, yes, and yes. But how is it even remotely as stupid as what the Flyers players have done? Since you've forgotten, I'll remind you

Downie got 20 for the leaping hit on McCammond.

Boulerice got 25 for cross-checking Kesler in the face.

Jones got 2 games for the hit on Bergeron.

Hartnell got 2 games for the hit on Alberts.

Cote got 3 games for the head shot on Niskanen.

Simon got 30 for stomping on a players skate. This isn't even in the same league at a cross-check to the face or even the hit on Bergeron. I'm not advocating for Simon, I just think this suspension had more to do with who he is rather than what he did. I understand, and agree that repeat offenders should have a higher price to pay. However, I think this is far to stiff a penalty. 25 games, and a phsyciatric examination followed by the prescribed treatment. If the treatment calls for a longer period away from the game, then I'm all for it.

BTW, the longest suspenion in NHL history is the lifetime ban of Billy Coutu in 1927 for punching a ref after he started a brawl in Game 4 of the SCF. The ban was reversed about 5 years later. Coutu never played another NHL game he he was allowed to play in the minors.

Of the Philly suspensions, honestly I would only say Downie's and Boulerice's were worse. The Jones hit was really not malicious. The other ones were cheapshots that occurred during a hockey play.

And I agree it had a lot to do with the player involved. As I said earlier, Simon didn't even make it 26 games before he made another completely boneheaded, dirty play that really could've seriously injured another player. I think using your skate blade as a weapon is in the same league as a cross-check to the face, or swinging your stick at a player like Simon did just last season.

To me, it is cumulative. He obviously learned nothing from 25 games. Why would he learn from a shorter one?

[wingslogo19 281]

Of the Philly suspensions, honestly I would only say Downie's and Boulerice's were worse. The Jones hit was really not malicious. The other ones were cheapshots that occurred during a hockey play.

And I agree it had a lot to do with the player involved. As I said earlier, Simon didn't even make it 26 games before he made another completely boneheaded, dirty play that really could've seriously injured another player. I think using your skate blade as a weapon is in the same league as a cross-check to the face, or swinging your stick at a player like Simon did just last season.

To me, it is cumulative. He obviously learned nothing from 25 games. Why would he learn from a shorter one?

That's bang on... To add about the skates, and sticks they should be used as a Tool not a Weapon

[Louisville 112]

Why is everyone so suprised by this? The NHL didn't have the balls before and they won't grow some now.

[wingslogo19 281]

Looks like Mr.Campbell might of gone to far with these comments

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=225622&hubname=

[imisssergei 0]

Of the Philly suspensions, honestly I would only say Downie's and Boulerice's were worse. The Jones hit was really not malicious. The other ones were cheapshots that occurred during a hockey play.

And I agree it had a lot to do with the player involved. As I said earlier, Simon didn't even make it 26 games before he made another completely boneheaded, dirty play that really could've seriously injured another player. I think using your skate blade as a weapon is in the same league as a cross-check to the face, or swinging your stick at a player like Simon did just last season.

To me, it is cumulative. He obviously learned nothing from 25 games. Why would he learn from a shorter one?

I don't agree with the idea that malicious intent equates to a longer suspension. The reason being is that it is very hard to determine intent. It's pretty clear that Simon meant to stomp on the boot, but RT did a fantastic job of selling it.

I also don't agree with the idea that if something changed about the play to make the result worse, the suspension should be greater. If that was the case, you could argue season long suspensions for every Flyer suspended this year.

As for Simon not learning from the previous suspension, you can't say he didn't. He didn't use his stick this time!

I agree he needs to learn a lesson. I just think this is the wrong way to go about it. I think his counseling shouldn't be handled in house. That is, but the NHL appointed doctors.

Edited December 21, 2007 by imisssergei

[wingslogo19 281]

I don't agree with the idea that malicious intent equates to a longer suspension. The reason being is that it is very hard to determine intent. It's pretty clear that Simon meant to stomp on the boot, but RT did a fantastic job of selling it.

I also don't agree with the idea that if something changed about the play to make the result worse, the suspension should be greater. If that was the case, you could argue season long suspensions for every Flyer suspended this year.

As for Simon not learning from the previous suspension, you can't say he didn't. He didn't use his stick this time!

I agree he needs to learn a lesson. I just think this is the wrong way to go about it. I think his counseling shouldn't be handled in house. That is, but the NHL appointed doctors.

Once again, Simon is a repeat offender. Its not like this is the first time he's done this

[imisssergei 0]

Once again, Simon is a repeat offender. Its not like this is the first time he's done this

It isn't the first time he has done something stupid. It isn't like he is just a goon running around trying to think of ways to end other layers careers. Again, he was concussed during the stick to the face incident. I don't know if you've ever dealt with someone who is concussed, but among other things that could directly effect what Simon did, they simply can't think straight. Not that I am trying to condone what he did, just rather shed some light on the subject.

[wingslogo19 281]

It isn't the first time he has done something stupid. It isn't like he is just a goon running around trying to think of ways to end other layers careers. Again, he was concussed during the stick to the face incident. I don't know if you've ever dealt with someone who is concussed, but among other things that could directly effect what Simon did, they simply can't think straight. Not that I am trying to condone what he did, just rather shed some light on the subject.

I know that's why I said it's not the first time he's done this.. And yes, I've had a conky myself as well

[Opie 308]

I have had a concussion, and I knew what was going on, it was blurry and fuzzy, I wasn't sure where I was, but I was able to keep playing physically.

But I knew what I was doing. It was all really fuzzy and blurry.

So I don't buy the he was concussed so he had no idea what he was doing. If he was able to get to his feet he was not out cold, he had enough of his barring to skate, find the player who hit him and smash him in the face. And from my concussion, physical motor control was were I struggled, so for him to be able to do what he did physically he was not that far out of it.

Plus this is his 8th suspension, 2nd of at least 25 games in less than a calendar year.

This man needs to leave the game for his own good, and if he can get mentally well then he can come back.

But I am not the comish, just a guy who loves hockey, unlike the comish apparently, seeing as he is trying to turn hockey into B-ball on ice!

[rwfan007 18]

Simon is eligible to come back on Feb 21... he has had 55 games of suspension the past 2 seasons. why is he still allowed to play professional hockey?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3244537

Edited February 15, 2008 by rwfan007

[Opie 308]

Simon is eligible to come back on Feb 21... he has had 55 games of suspension the past 2 seasons. why is he still allowed to play professional hockey?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3244537

Yeah but when you look at it he has played something like 20 games in between suspensions. That is bad news, but I hope for his sake that the therapy the team got him helped. I hope he isn't so angry. Unfortunatley I think he has Brett Hull syndrome, meaning the game has passed him by, not diarrhea of the mouth!

[Grittzkey 1]

make it happen kenny

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

make it happen kenny

I'd love to have him against the Ducks, just to see him step on Pronger's goofy head when he's laying on the ice.

[Grittzkey 1]

I'd love to have him against the Ducks, just to see him step on Pronger's goofy head when he's laying on the ice.

Knowing simon, He will 1 up Jokinen and purposly do it to pronger.

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Knowing simon, He will 1 up Jokinen and purposly do it to pronger.

Oooh, now this is just gettin' nasty.

[Grind_Lines_#1_Fan 0]

holy back from the dead thread.....I thought he got suspended again but I know he isn't back yet

Edited February 15, 2008 by Grind_Lines_#1_Fan