BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Another award for Mr. Gretzky? I don't consider him in the front running now, but if the 'Yotes actually make the playoffs, a lot of credit should and could be awarded to Gretz. So Gretzky for coach of the year? Could you see it happening? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 long shot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 i see babs winning it if we keep up on a similar pace as we are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Babs will win it, Padock will be nominated and then there leaves a spot. If the Yotes were to make the playoffs, he'd get the third nomination. Maybe even if they get more then 30 wins, coming into the seasone everyone thought they'd have like, 10 wins the whole year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Babs will be nominated, plus Padock, and Alain from Vancouver Edited January 10, 2008 by wingslogo19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady in REd 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 I kind of feel Babs has it in the bag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 I'm willing to bet that the odds are that he'll be the dark horse in this race. Oh and that it's less to do with him and more to do with his goalie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 The only think Gretzky has done in Phoenix this year is put Bryz in net. The 'Yotes were terrible before they got Bryz, since getting them they have gone on a tear. It's not rocket science. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Vigneault will definfitely not get a nomination. Why would someone think that? Andy Murray should at least get a nom as well as Brent Sutter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Babs Murray Vigneault Wayne? very long shot fact-wise. reality-wise, that is: knowing how the NHL is doing it's "best" to advertise the game with famous names (read: milking Sidney Crosby cow all the time, so that 99% of die hard fans already want to puke hearing his name mentioned) - that might happen. a casual American fan who knows s*** about hockey would pee his pants hearing a once great player is now labeled great coach. and you sure bet this fan wouldn't even ask the question if that's earned. and the media hype would make you forget there were quite a few guys who deserve the trophy more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Vigneault will definfitely not get a nomination. Why would someone think that? Andy Murray should at least get a nom as well as Brent Sutter. Why wouldn't Vigneault get nominated again. With all of the injuries they have had and there still the top team in there div Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Why wouldn't Vigneault get nominated again. With all of the injuries they have had and there still the top team in there div Because the only thing he's done to get them there is start Roberto Luongo. That's why. I can think of half a dozen coaches that deserve the rcognition before him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingFanInOilCountry 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Where would Gretz and his team be if the poultry hadn't waived Bryzgalov? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 Because the only thing he's done to get them there is start Roberto Luongo. That's why. I can think of half a dozen coaches that deserve the rcognition before him. Fair enough, and true the Canucks wouldn't be anywhere with out Lou... But Im willing to bet that's he get's a chance of winning back to back years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 10, 2008 I actually think that Babcock won't win this year. The Wings have finished 1st many years in a row now, yet how many Jack Adams awards have they won? This award usually goes to coaches who get a team to a pinnacle that no one thought they'd reach. The Wings don't fit that description. Everyone knew they'd contend for the West. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) Vigneault will definfitely not get a nomination. Why would someone think that? Because he's very good? Because although the Canucks have been decimated by injuries and had to rely heavily on call-ups from the Manitoba Moose for much of the season, he has continually got 100 percent effort from his players? Because since November 2 and despite all those injuries, the Canucks have gone 12-0-2 at home and have also maintained a winning percentage on the road? Basically, someone would "think that" because he has the same team as last year, they're well ahead of their performance from last year, and Vigneault won the Adams last year. If you win one year, and then do even better the next year, is it so surprising that he would be considered as coach of the year again? Because the only thing he's done to get them there is start Roberto Luongo. That's why. Sure. Luongo is the whole team. He not only stops shots, but he's the leading defenceman on the team, and even more surprising, Luongo is the Canucks leading scorer. He also takes your ticket and directs you to your seat when you attend a game at GM Place. Edited January 11, 2008 by One of the Few Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel1 32 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) Where would Gretz and his team be if the poultry hadn't waived Bryzgalov? Ducks aren't poultry; they're fowl, and those Ducks are very foul fowl. Your assertion is quite correct though; Bryz saved Gretzky's job in my opinion. The 'yotes still suck though and if they ever want to truly contend I think that Whine Gratesky has to go. Edited January 11, 2008 by daniel1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 I actually think that Babcock won't win this year. The Wings have finished 1st many years in a row now, yet how many Jack Adams awards have they won? good point. This award usually goes to coaches who get a team to a pinnacle that no one thought they'd reach. The Wings don't fit that description. Everyone knew they'd contend for the West. oh, they did very much fit this description last year, and even this time not many ppl expected Wings to be that high above competition. it's halfway through the season but if it continues I see no reason to not give Babcock the trophy. in 2006 he took a team full of GR pickups and young players, decimated by the departure of old core players. in 2007 he took it to the WCF and in 2008 his Wings are class of itself. with that being a team much, much shorter on talent than what Wings once used to be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 The only think Gretzky has done in Phoenix this year is put Bryz in net. The 'Yotes were terrible before they got Bryz, since getting them they have gone on a tear. It's not rocket science. Exactly. The Yotes haven't gotten better because of coaching; it's been their goaltending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 good point. oh, they did very much fit this description last year, and even this time not many ppl expected Wings to be that high above competition. it's halfway through the season but if it continues I see no reason to not give Babcock the trophy. in 2006 he took a team full of GR pickups and young players, decimated by the departure of old core players. in 2007 he took it to the WCF and in 2008 his Wings are class of itself. with that being a team much, much shorter on talent than what Wings once used to be The Wings may be shorter on talent than they used to be, but this is still one of the most talented teams in the league on paper. The rest of the league isn't inclined to say that the Wings are lacking talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 Because he's very good? Because although the Canucks have been decimated by injuries and had to rely heavily on call-ups from the Manitoba Moose for much of the season, he has continually got 100 percent effort from his players? Because since November 2 and despite all those injuries, the Canucks have gone 12-0-2 at home and have also maintained a winning percentage on the road? Basically, someone would "think that" because he has the same team as last year, they're well ahead of their performance from last year, and Vigneault won the Adams last year. If you win one year, and then do even better the next year, is it so surprising that he would be considered as coach of the year again? Sure. Luongo is the whole team. He not only stops shots, but he's the leading defenceman on the team, and even more surprising, Luongo is the Canucks leading scorer. He also takes your ticket and directs you to your seat when you attend a game at GM Place. So many words. I just thought I'd highlight the ones worth reading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 So many words. I just thought I'd highlight the ones worth reading. That's one hell of a detailed rebuttal. But thanks for trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted January 11, 2008 That's one hell of a detailed rebuttal. But thanks for trying. Okay here's my question to you: If Alain Vigneault (who yes, has been a great coach and has done a good job) hasn't coached his team to any improvement, why has he done a better job than Andy Murray or Brent Sutter or Denis Savard or Jacques Lemaire? Because he had injuries? All these men along with others have seen better results and better improvement in the face of adversity so far this season. Mike Babcock and John Paddock have been able to get unbelievably consistent efforts from their players night in, night out. They haven't had too many injuries but I think the mental toughness they've got their players displaying is a result of exdellent coaching. Vigneualt deserves about as much recognition as Gretzky. Their success thus far has derived largely from their goaltending. Unfortunately, Gretzky will actually get it the props. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites