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Gretzky for Jack Adams?

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Another award for Mr. Gretzky? I don't consider him in the front running now, but if the 'Yotes actually make the playoffs, a lot of credit should and could be awarded to Gretz. So Gretzky for coach of the year? Could you see it happening?

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Babs will win it, Padock will be nominated and then there leaves a spot.

If the Yotes were to make the playoffs, he'd get the third nomination. Maybe even if they get more then 30 wins, coming into the seasone everyone thought they'd have like, 10 wins the whole year...

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Babs

Murray

Vigneault

Wayne? very long shot fact-wise. reality-wise, that is: knowing how the NHL

is doing it's "best" to advertise the game with famous names (read: milking

Sidney Crosby cow all the time, so that 99% of die hard fans already want

to puke hearing his name mentioned) - that might happen. a casual American

fan who knows s*** about hockey would pee his pants hearing a once

great player is now labeled great coach. and you sure bet this fan wouldn't

even ask the question if that's earned. and the media hype would make you

forget there were quite a few guys who deserve the trophy more

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Vigneault will definfitely not get a nomination. Why would someone think that?

Andy Murray should at least get a nom as well as Brent Sutter.

Why wouldn't Vigneault get nominated again. With all of the injuries they have had and there still the top team in there div

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Why wouldn't Vigneault get nominated again. With all of the injuries they have had and there still the top team in there div

Because the only thing he's done to get them there is start Roberto Luongo. That's why.

I can think of half a dozen coaches that deserve the rcognition before him.

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Because the only thing he's done to get them there is start Roberto Luongo. That's why.

I can think of half a dozen coaches that deserve the rcognition before him.

Fair enough, and true the Canucks wouldn't be anywhere with out Lou... But Im willing to bet that's he get's a chance of winning back to back years

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I actually think that Babcock won't win this year. The Wings have finished 1st many years in a row now, yet how many Jack Adams awards have they won? This award usually goes to coaches who get a team to a pinnacle that no one thought they'd reach. The Wings don't fit that description. Everyone knew they'd contend for the West.

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Vigneault will definfitely not get a nomination. Why would someone think that?

Because he's very good?

Because although the Canucks have been decimated by injuries and had to rely heavily on call-ups from the Manitoba Moose for much of the season, he has continually got 100 percent effort from his players?

Because since November 2 and despite all those injuries, the Canucks have gone 12-0-2 at home and have also maintained a winning percentage on the road?

Basically, someone would "think that" because he has the same team as last year, they're well ahead of their performance from last year, and Vigneault won the Adams last year. If you win one year, and then do even better the next year, is it so surprising that he would be considered as coach of the year again?

Because the only thing he's done to get them there is start Roberto Luongo. That's why.

Sure. Luongo is the whole team. He not only stops shots, but he's the leading defenceman on the team, and even more surprising, Luongo is the Canucks leading scorer. He also takes your ticket and directs you to your seat when you attend a game at GM Place.

Edited by One of the Few

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Where would Gretz and his team be if the poultry hadn't waived Bryzgalov?

Ducks aren't poultry; they're fowl, and those Ducks are very foul fowl. <_<

Your assertion is quite correct though; Bryz saved Gretzky's job in my opinion. The 'yotes still suck though and if they ever want to truly contend I think that Whine Gratesky has to go.

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I actually think that Babcock won't win this year. The Wings have finished 1st many years in a row now, yet how many Jack Adams awards have they won?

good point.

This award usually goes to coaches who get a team to a pinnacle that no one thought they'd reach. The Wings don't fit that description. Everyone knew they'd contend for the West.

oh, they did very much fit this description last year, and even this time not many ppl

expected Wings to be that high above competition. it's halfway through the season

but if it continues I see no reason to not give Babcock the trophy. in 2006 he took

a team full of GR pickups and young players, decimated by the departure of old core

players. in 2007 he took it to the WCF and in 2008 his Wings are class of itself.

with that being a team much, much shorter on talent than what Wings once used

to be

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The only think Gretzky has done in Phoenix this year is put Bryz in net. The 'Yotes were terrible before they got Bryz, since getting them they have gone on a tear. It's not rocket science.

Exactly. The Yotes haven't gotten better because of coaching; it's been their goaltending.

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good point.

oh, they did very much fit this description last year, and even this time not many ppl

expected Wings to be that high above competition. it's halfway through the season

but if it continues I see no reason to not give Babcock the trophy. in 2006 he took

a team full of GR pickups and young players, decimated by the departure of old core

players. in 2007 he took it to the WCF and in 2008 his Wings are class of itself.

with that being a team much, much shorter on talent than what Wings once used

to be

The Wings may be shorter on talent than they used to be, but this is still one of the most talented teams in the league on paper. The rest of the league isn't inclined to say that the Wings are lacking talent.

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Because he's very good?

Because although the Canucks have been decimated by injuries and had to rely heavily on call-ups from the Manitoba Moose for much of the season, he has continually got 100 percent effort from his players?

Because since November 2 and despite all those injuries, the Canucks have gone 12-0-2 at home and have also maintained a winning percentage on the road?

Basically, someone would "think that" because he has the same team as last year, they're well ahead of their performance from last year, and Vigneault won the Adams last year. If you win one year, and then do even better the next year, is it so surprising that he would be considered as coach of the year again?

Sure. Luongo is the whole team. He not only stops shots, but he's the leading defenceman on the team, and even more surprising, Luongo is the Canucks leading scorer. He also takes your ticket and directs you to your seat when you attend a game at GM Place.

So many words. I just thought I'd highlight the ones worth reading.

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That's one hell of a detailed rebuttal. But thanks for trying.

Okay here's my question to you:

If Alain Vigneault (who yes, has been a great coach and has done a good job) hasn't coached his team to any improvement, why has he done a better job than Andy Murray or Brent Sutter or Denis Savard or Jacques Lemaire? Because he had injuries? All these men along with others have seen better results and better improvement in the face of adversity so far this season.

Mike Babcock and John Paddock have been able to get unbelievably consistent efforts from their players night in, night out. They haven't had too many injuries but I think the mental toughness they've got their players displaying is a result of exdellent coaching.

Vigneualt deserves about as much recognition as Gretzky. Their success thus far has derived largely from their goaltending. Unfortunately, Gretzky will actually get it the props.

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