Stu in Israel 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 Detroit is indeed fortunate to have Ken Holland, Dave Dombrowski, and Joe Dumars "managing" its sports teams, and I'm not angry at Matt Millen because I don't remember him dropping a pass or missing a block. Here's a quote on a "two for one" signing, from a blogger at TSN: "Ken Holland locked up Nicklas Lidstrom and Pavel Datsyuk for less per year than the Caps paid for 'Alex the Great.' " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 Detroit is indeed fortunate to have Ken Holland, Dave Dombrowski, and Joe Dumars "managing" its sports teams, and I'm not angry at Matt Millen because I don't remember him dropping a pass or missing a block. Here's a quote on a "two for one" signing, from a blogger at TSN: "Ken Holland locked up Nicklas Lidstrom and Pavel Datsyuk for less per year than the Caps paid for 'Alex the Great.' " We'll see just how good holland and Co. are once he has to live in a salary cap world with a level playing field like everybody else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 Holland is great GM, probably best in the league, but I think we should also be grateful to those players, for signing for less than they could get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 Holland is great GM, probably best in the league, but I think we should also be grateful to those players, for signing for less than they could get. Part of the reason they take less is because of the atmosphere that Holland and Mr I have built in Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 Part of the reason they take less is because of the atmosphere that Holland and Mr I have built in Detroit. Of course I agree 100%, but not every player would go under free market price anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HomeNugget 2 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 I'm not angry at Matt Millen because I don't remember him dropping a pass or missing a block. i don't remember him posting a .500 record or better since he's become GM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 Detroit is indeed fortunate to have Ken Holland, Dave Dombrowski, and Joe Dumars "managing" its sports teams, and I'm not angry at Matt Millen because I don't remember him dropping a pass or missing a block. Here's a quote on a "two for one" signing, from a blogger at TSN: "Ken Holland locked up Nicklas Lidstrom and Pavel Datsyuk for less per year than the Caps paid for 'Alex the Great.' " I like that last sentence. As much as he has gotten dogged in here for not consistently signing "toughness" or a "tough guy" or that he shouldn't be given at least some credit for contributing to low draft picks working out in recent years (maybe not actually going out to get them but keeping them with the Red Wings long term), and while I definitely respect the opinions of plenty fans in here, when you have major NHL sources and outlets saying he's one of the best present-day GMs out there, I'm taking the opinions of those sources over the people in here on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 I like that last sentence. Even though Datsyuk and Lidstrom combine for 14m, which is about 4m more per year than Ovechkin makes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 Even though Datsyuk and Lidstrom combine for 14m, which is about 4m more per year than Ovechkin makes? Ok so that statement is inaccurate then, but saying that Holland is one of the best current-day GMs in the league in managing under a salary cap is accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 I am not taking anything away from Holland, obviously he has done a great job, but I think that Mr. I's commitment to winning prior to the salary cap created the culture that the Wings have had for the last 10-15 years or so, and that culture is what makes Detroit such a desirable place to play for players, that and the loyalty that the team has shown to past players, those who retired with the team, left because of injury, or simply needed to revive their career. Hockeytown is about more than the number of tickets we sell, it's a lifestyle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 yes us detroit fans are really lucky to have such great coaching and management Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 The grass is always greener on the other side. Ask anyone outside of Wings fans who has the best management team in the NHL. Theyll tell you its Detroit in a landslide.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnoldbuck 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 They're good and all. But I'd say it would be a close race between them and Toronto exec's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 We're blessed as Detroit fans. minus the lions but overall we got a great sports town. and great teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 12, 2008 I am not taking anything away from Holland, obviously he has done a great job, but I think that Mr. I's commitment to winning prior to the salary cap created the culture that the Wings have had for the last 10-15 years or so, and that culture is what makes Detroit such a desirable place to play for players, that and the loyalty that the team has shown to past players, those who retired with the team, left because of injury, or simply needed to revive their career. Hockeytown is about more than the number of tickets we sell, it's a lifestyle. Too true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites