luvmnger 125 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 if we are going to poach some players off the kings "again" we should go after cammalleri, frolov or even.....kopitar. i know...more expensive, but lose sammy,lillja, or even franzen, and i would be ok with that. my wish list from available "out right now" teams.... anze kopitar.....to much to give up mike cammalleri...might be do-able mats sundin....strictly a rental michael ryder...could be had cheap, would flourish on our high speed offence darcy tucker....tough guy that can score? team falling apart? wants to drink from cup? vaclav prospal....tampa needs a way out of their cap issues, and failing team nathan horton....sean averys less dick-ish cousin, but scores stephan weiss...long term potential here...can be slick with the puck patrick sharp- never happen....aggresive, fast, scores, rival team. nuf said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KDDRWINGS1 9 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) I am sure Kenny will add some physical dman just before the deadline. Hopefully! I think Mike Commodore would work out great here, he's 6'5", 229lbs, has won a cup, and a ufa next season. Plus he's only making $1.25 mil this year so he'd be very cheap this year and next. Sounds like someone we've been missing for a while. Unfortunately Carolina is plaqued with injuries on defense so we'd likely give up at least two d-men. Edited January 13, 2008 by KDDRWINGS1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted January 13, 2008 if we are going to poach some players off the kings "again" we should go after cammalleri, frolov or even.....kopitar. i know...more expensive, but lose sammy,lillja, or even franzen, and i would be ok with that. my wish list from available "out right now" teams.... anze kopitar.....to much to give up mike cammalleri...might be do-able mats sundin....strictly a rental michael ryder...could be had cheap, would flourish on our high speed offence darcy tucker....tough guy that can score? team falling apart? wants to drink from cup? vaclav prospal....tampa needs a way out of their cap issues, and failing team nathan horton....sean averys less dick-ish cousin, but scores stephan weiss...long term potential here...can be slick with the puck patrick sharp- never happen....aggresive, fast, scores, rival team. nuf said. LMAO ya cause the kings are gonna trade their best players ... come on man sundin and ryder are the only ones who MIGHT be traded off that list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruarc' 2 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 horton's interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted January 13, 2008 A Cup contender would pay a decent price to get their hands on a player of Blake's calibre and experience. The 17-year-old has been around the block and would add value to any team. In return, the Kings would acquire a high draft pick and a solid young defensive-prospect or NHL-ready player. While no deal is believed to be imminent, it appears Blake will be sporting a new uniform over the next month that was from .... http://thefourthperiod.com/news/lak080113.html derek meech ( defensive prospect and nhl ready) 3rd 2009 draft pick for blake i could be way off but i dont think blake will get grade a prospects from anyone and 1st rounders especially since the 2008 class is real high , i think the only draft picks that might be dealt from the 08 draft is 5th round picks and higher .... then again i could be off the site also says ... In addition to Blake, the Kings could also deal forwards Ladislav Nagy and Scott Thornton, and defensemen Brad Stuart and Jaroslav Modry over the next few weeks. i checked thornton and i love his size 6'3 220 pds , but hes 37 and injury prone ... besides blake theres no one id really want , im not sold on stuart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Everyone always brings up Blake's bad numbers. He has bad numbers because LA uses him as their #1 dman and he isn't a #1 dman. He is a PP shot specialist and a stay at home defenseman. He has no speed but he DOES play a physical game when he has to. What does he have to play for in LA? I think a change of scenery would do him some good. I would rather have a younger version of him or a younger more aggressive dman, but if he is all we can get at the deadline then it is better than nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luvmnger 125 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 LMAO ya cause the kings are gonna trade their best players ... come on man sundin and ryder are the only ones who MIGHT be traded off that list all those names have been mentioned in the last 3 months as to having some tradeable market if their teams fall off the playoff radar. sundin and ryder are just this weeks names. come on dude....catch up. schneider for avery, kutznetzov and a 3rd. sounds like a best player to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 if we are going to poach some players off the kings "again" we should go after cammalleri, frolov or even.....kopitar. i know...more expensive, but lose sammy,lillja, or even franzen, and i would be ok with that. You seriously expect to get Cammalleri, Frolov or Kopitar for Sammy, Lilja or Franzen? Step away from the playstation dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted January 13, 2008 all those names have been mentioned in the last 3 months as to having some tradeable market if their teams fall off the playoff radar. sundin and ryder are just this weeks names. come on dude....catch up. schneider for avery, kutznetzov and a 3rd. sounds like a best player to me. lmao huh where have you heard the kings best young players were on the market ?? in your head ? lol pls man there going nowhere ... get real Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 I don't really see what he brings that warrants the loss of roster players/prospects/draft picks. At least Bert had some upside in that he could get healthy. I don't really see Blake as having anything like that... You seriously expect to get Cammalleri, Frolov or Kopitar for Sammy, Lilja or Franzen? Step away from the playstation dude. Agreed. Tho I wouldn't be surprised if that actually worked in a computer/console game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Let me give you a name. Niclas Havelid. 6" 200 lbs. Signed through 08/09. Swedish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luvmnger 125 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 You seriously expect to get Cammalleri, Frolov or Kopitar for Sammy, Lilja or Franzen? Step away from the playstation dude. did i say....."lets trade sammy lillja and franzen for kopitar" nope didnt think so i know that the deal to get those guys will include prospects, picks and roster players i would be more than fine if we can lose those guys to aquire some "scoring" talent in the process. my response to the new guy was in relation to the kings in last place, known for losing their best players in wrong move deals ala"schnieder" and would like to see a package put together to acquire one of the aformentioned players. dont confuse me with the "lillja for ovechkin" s***heads that troll this site. please note the "to much to give up" part of my kopitar "wish list" outside of kopitar.....their isnt anyone on the "list" that isnt obtainable with out giving up on our playoff team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wingswillwincup Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Let me give you a name. Niclas Havelid. 6" 200 lbs. Signed through 08/09. Swedish. making 2.7 a yr Assets Has good skating ability, due to a low center of gravity. Plays a smart passing game. Recognizes when to jump into the play. - we got enough of those by far Flaws Is a little undersized and can be vulnerable against big power forwards. Tends to wear down with overuse. not what we need on our team .......... no thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Personally, I have zero interest in Blake coming to Detroit. The guy is having one of the worst seasons of his career. And he's getting up there in age. I think we have enough veterans on this squad. Hell, I would rather have Adam Schnoz over Blake. I really don't want either guy. But If I had to choose, it sure the hell wouldn't be Rob Blake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 I would much rather have Brown from LA, would it take to much to land him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 making 2.7 a yr Assets Has good skating ability, due to a low center of gravity. Plays a smart passing game. Recognizes when to jump into the play. - we got enough of those by far Flaws Is a little undersized and can be vulnerable against big power forwards. Tends to wear down with overuse. not what we need on our team .......... no thanks Seriously, are you retarded? The Wings have 'enough' puck moving dmen? That's EXACTLY they kind of dmen that fit into the Wings system. "blake or foote here and we'd be dynamite in the back end" Blake is 38, and makes $6 per. Foote is 36, and making $4.6. Havelid is 34, and making $2.7. Havelid brings everything to the table that either of those guys brings, while also being signed for next season which would help solidify the top 4 group. He also would fit better into the Wings puck possesion style of play. He is exactly the type of player the Wings need to round out the top 4 pairings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Seriously, are you retarded? The Wings have 'enough' puck moving dmen? That's EXACTLY they kind of dmen that fit into the Wings system. "blake or foote here and we'd be dynamite in the back end" Blake is 38, and makes $6 per. Foote is 36, and making $4.6. Havelid is 34, and making $2.7. Havelid brings everything to the table that either of those guys brings, while also being signed for next season which would help solidify the top 4 group. He also would fit better into the Wings puck possesion style of play. He is exactly the type of player the Wings need to round out the top 4 pairings. I don't think we would want anything more then a rental on the D line unless we trade away one of ours because we have to many in the stables Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Blake as an addition is a terribe idea. Seriously. Grass is always greener on the other side, but theres a reason Kings fans have wanted Blake gone nearly since his return to LA. Hes terrible in nearly every aspect these days. Personally, Id like to see Detroit add Commodore, buts hes practically their #1 guy on the Canes. They love him there and Carolina is far from out of it. And to top it off, Karmanos making Illitch's team better? Fat chance of that happening... Personally, Id love to see the Isles tank. Up front, Satan, Comrie, or Hunter would be a big help. On the back end, Id love to have Witt even though hes signed for more than a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 If we want to trade for an old guy with a fat ass, we should just bring back Robert Lang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) did i say....."lets trade sammy lillja and franzen for kopitar" nope didnt think so i know that the deal to get those guys will include prospects, picks and roster players i would be more than fine if we can lose those guys to aquire some "scoring" talent in the process. my response to the new guy was in relation to the kings in last place, known for losing their best players in wrong move deals ala"schnieder" and would like to see a package put together to acquire one of the aformentioned players. dont confuse me with the "lillja for ovechkin" s***heads that troll this site. please note the "to much to give up" part of my kopitar "wish list" outside of kopitar.....their isnt anyone on the "list" that isnt obtainable with out giving up on our playoff team Rereading your post, it still sounds as if you meant that those Wings players would somehow be involved in a trade for Kopitar, Cammaleri or Frolov. Sorry if I misunderstood. Either way, the Kings are stupid, but even they're not stupid enough to trade Kopitar, and they just re-signed Cammaleri this summer, so that seems highly unlikely as well (and would also be a stupid move on their part). Edited January 13, 2008 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skacore 2 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Seriously, are you retarded? The Wings have 'enough' puck moving dmen? That's EXACTLY they kind of dmen that fit into the Wings system. "blake or foote here and we'd be dynamite in the back end" Blake is 38, and makes $6 per. Foote is 36, and making $4.6. Havelid is 34, and making $2.7. Havelid brings everything to the table that either of those guys brings, while also being signed for next season which would help solidify the top 4 group. He also would fit better into the Wings puck possesion style of play. He is exactly the type of player the Wings need to round out the top 4 pairings. The italics is irrelevant when they are being used as a playoff rental The bold is a joke, Havelid cannot match Blake or Foote's physical pressence, which is what we need most on D right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Ehh. I'm 50/50 on this. I can see him really helping us out, but then again I'm not really concerned about our D. I'd prefer to get a tough, scoring, Winger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 A Cup contender would pay a decent price to get their hands on a player of Blake's calibre and experience. The 17-year-old has been around the block and would add value to any team. In return, the Kings would acquire a high draft pick and a solid young defensive-prospect or NHL-ready player. While no deal is believed to be imminent, it appears Blake will be sporting a new uniform over the next month that was from .... http://thefourthperiod.com/news/lak080113.html derek meech ( defensive prospect and nhl ready) 3rd 2009 draft pick for blake i could be way off but i dont think blake will get grade a prospects from anyone and 1st rounders especially since the 2008 class is real high , i think the only draft picks that might be dealt from the 08 draft is 5th round picks and higher .... then again i could be off the site also says ... In addition to Blake, the Kings could also deal forwards Ladislav Nagy and Scott Thornton, and defensemen Brad Stuart and Jaroslav Modry over the next few weeks. i checked thornton and i love his size 6'3 220 pds , but hes 37 and injury prone ... besides blake theres no one id really want , im not sold on stuart What is it with people on these boards that always want to get has beens? Blake is washed up. We don't need him. He was great 5 years ago. Not anymore. And while we're at it, no Foppa, Feds, Bert or any other washed up guys. You want guys just because they are big? You're kidding right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Ehh. I'm 50/50 on this. I can see him really helping us out, but then again I'm not really concerned about our D. I'd prefer to get a tough, scoring, Winger. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 NO?? no intrest in Dustin Brown, any idea what i would take? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites