chelios4eva 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2008 I was reading over on Letsgoblues.com and apparently Jackman rejected an offer and wants to test the market. The guy didn't give a link, apparently he said it was on the radio or something, thats why I'm putting it in Rumor Mill (not sure if it should be here or General Discussion?) Anyway, you think we can afford him/would we want him? Good young defenceman who is very physical (maybe too physical?) I know alot of people here hate him, but is would he be one of those guys you'd only hate if he's on the other team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted January 25, 2008 jackman is a dbag and i dont want him, its not like hes a respectable defenseman like cheli was before he came here...plain and simple Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted January 25, 2008 In a heartbeat. He's the kind of guy you love to hate, But you wish he was on your team. You can tell by the responses around these forums about how much everyone dislikes the guy, Imagine how the players feel about him then? Get into other players heads, take them off there game, Sounds Good. And not bad when it comes to actually playing the game either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 25, 2008 I know this isn't a beauty contest, but looking at this guy's stupid face more often than 6 times a year would be too much for me to handle. Besides, he gets hurt too often to invest in. Dallas Drake is more than enough as far as former hated Blues players go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted January 25, 2008 There is almost a better chance as the Wings making a trade with the Avalanche or Ducks than making a trade with the Blues. Isn't going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) 1. He's a royal ****** bag. 2. He's really not all that good. 3. He's on the Blues, who would probably rather move to Winnipeg than deal us one of their top d-men. Edited January 26, 2008 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) 1. He's a royal ****** bag. 2. He's really not all that good. 3. He's on the Blues, who would probably rather move to Winnipeg than deal us one of their top d-men. Thank god someone else on these forums understands this fact. I was trying to tell people this last year during those ridiculous Tkachuk and Mayers to Detroit rumors. The Blues hate the Wings, and are never in their team history going to make a deal with the Wings. Besides that, JD hates Illitch. He's publicly criticized him in the past, so what makes people think he'll all of a sudden start making trades with him? People need to finally realize that the Wings and Blues will never ever make a trade with one another. Division rivals almost never make trades with one another. The odd exception seems to be Chicago, who has been a trading partner with the Wings in the past, but I don't see that situation coming about with St. Louis. Edited January 26, 2008 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted January 26, 2008 Teams the Wings have made a trade involving 'core' players (top 6F/4D/1G) with, in the past fifteen seasons: Buffalo (Hasek/Kozlov), Carolina/Hartford(Shanahan/Primeau/Coffey, Ward), Chicago (Williams/Calder, Chelios/Eriksson), Florida (Larionov/Golubovsky, Bertuzzi/Matthias), Los Angeles (Schneider/Avery/Kuznetsov), New Jersey (Fetisov), Phoenix/Winnipeg (Cheveldae/Drake/Essensa/Bautin), San Jose (Sheppard/Larionov), Tampa Bay (Clark/Ranford/Hodson), Toronto (Murphy), Washington (Ciccarelli/Miller). If we're going on historical trading partners, the Blues don't show up. However, neither do a lot of other teams the Wings have been rumored to be looking at for a core player; Atlanta, Columbus, and Minnesota combined have completed one roster-player trade with Detroit; which was Yuri Butsayev for Jiri Slegr in 2002. Yet all three teams are rumored to be on Kenny Holland's speed dial for a potential trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted January 26, 2008 Teams the Wings have made a trade involving 'core' players (top 6F/4D/1G) with, in the past fifteen seasons: Buffalo (Hasek/Kozlov), Carolina/Hartford(Shanahan/Primeau/Coffey, Ward), Chicago (Williams/Calder, Chelios/Eriksson), Florida (Larionov/Golubovsky, Bertuzzi/Matthias), Los Angeles (Schneider/Avery/Kuznetsov), New Jersey (Fetisov), Phoenix/Winnipeg (Cheveldae/Drake/Essensa/Bautin), San Jose (Sheppard/Larionov), Tampa Bay (Clark/Ranford/Hodson), Toronto (Murphy), Washington (Ciccarelli/Miller). If we're going on historical trading partners, the Blues don't show up. However, neither do a lot of other teams the Wings have been rumored to be looking at for a core player; Atlanta, Columbus, and Minnesota combined have completed one roster-player trade with Detroit; which was Yuri Butsayev for Jiri Slegr in 2002. Yet all three teams are rumored to be on Kenny Holland's speed dial for a potential trade. Yeah, but none of those teams are rivals of the Wings either. You can't call Columbus a rival, nor Minnesota, and the Wings hardly ever play Atlanta. Unlike the situation with the Blues, there isn't a lot of hate with those other teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted January 26, 2008 I would rather see A.Ward or Blake in Red Wing uniform than Jackman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted January 26, 2008 Yeah, but none of those teams are rivals of the Wings either. You can't call Columbus a rival, nor Minnesota, and the Wings hardly ever play Atlanta. Unlike the situation with the Blues, there isn't a lot of hate with those other teams. John Davidson is not a 'Blues' guy. He doesn't hate the Red Wings any more than Howson in Columbus. Both guys are not terribly likely to make the same trade with the Wings that they would with the Senators; but that's to be expected from a division opponent. No team wants to trade with a division rival and lose a deal; For example the Jason Williams trade was a win for all sides; Philadelphia dumped Calder's contract and ineffective play, Detroit dumped Williams' contract and ineffective play for the previous few months, and Chicago picked up a young scoring forward who has fit their team well. When you have deals that are even slightly lopsided, they are magnified intensely; think of Oates/Federko or Chelios/Eriksson. The player going to the 'losing' team was still a solid player; it's not like Murphy from Toronto for free. Yet because it's an intra-division trade the differences were magnified by direct competition and an increased number of games head-to-head. I don't see Jackman coming to Detroit because I would expect an Eastern team that is weaker on D to be willing to give up more and to have to pay less. Perhaps Carolina, Ottawa, or Phiadelphia will take a chance on Jackman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I was looking for this thread As much as I hate this f***in guy, I still think he'd be useful in the playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swede40 0 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 No Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
