Yemack 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Ok so we all like to hear about Hossa and Sundin but how about Prospal? He is scoring about 20 goals this season. I watched some highlights and he looks like he knows where to go to score goals. He has a very good deflection skill and pretty good shooter. Also he is 6-2 and doesn't command alot of money (1.9 this season) I don't know how his defensive smart is but it looks like he is type of the guy who will play extremely hard if he is traded here. We all know Tampa will try to unload some of their players, and Im not sure if he is in their long term plan but with his age (~33 yrs old) they would likely to trade him if we offer a sweat deal. personally I would love Holland to land him here before Burke try to pry him out first. Invalid Video Link Edited February 5, 2008 by Yemack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 5, 2008 Ok so we all like to hear about Hossa and Sundin but how about Prospal? He is scoring about 20 goals this season. I watched some highlights and he looks like he knows where to go to score goals. He has a very good deflection skill and pretty good shooter. Also he is 6-2 and doesn't command alot of money (1.9 this season) I don't know how his defensive smart is but it looks like he is type of the guy who will play extremely hard if he is traded here. We all know Tampa will try to unload some of their players, and Im not sure if he is in their long term plan but with his age (~33 yrs old) they would likely to trade him if we offer a sweat deal. personally I would love Holland to land him here before Burke try to pry him out first. Invalid Video Link How about we have no need for these big trades? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I like the Wings scoring ability right now - I'd rather them go for some depth and grit at the deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 Prospal wont cost the moon. Hed definitely be a good pickup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 He's no Ivanans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 Theres absolutely no reason to stand pat at the deadline and NOT add a 2nd line scoring winner. We lost the playoffs last year due to key injuries. Theres no way we lose our best chance at the cup because Zetterberg and Homer both go down in the playoffs. This is our year, and as such, we should use that 5M cap space we have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I like the Wings scoring ability right now - I'd rather them go for some depth and grit at the deadline. If we added Prospal at the deadline, that would be adding depth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILSWATERBOY 10 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 Mr Prospal is a staggering -47 on the +- career and believe he maybe a +6 this year we dont need him we need to look at toughness for the playoffs on D & O, so Kenny be smart and wise work some magic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I've been entertaining this idea for a while now. People generally play better with the Wings, also, so I would expect his scoring to be a bit higher, especially when you look at his recent history, with Lecavalier not doing anything and he is still producing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I don't think he is going to cost a lot. That's why I think it can be a good pickup. Only problem would be that Tampa will be asking Howard in return, seeing how they are desparate for any goaltending. If anything I say we should go for him so that Ducks don't get him. As for Hossa, I can't imagine Ducks not giving up a lot for his short service so it wouldn't be too bad in long run (which they can't sign him for) I'm stricly asking for your opinion on Prospal. If you feel urge to add your input on grit which we've heard million times already, you are free to discuss in other thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 I don't think he is going to cost a lot. That's why I think it can be a good pickup. Only problem would be that Tampa will be asking Howard in return, seeing how they are desparate for any goaltending. If anything I say we should go for him so that Ducks don't get him. As for Hossa, I can't imagine Ducks not giving up a lot for his short service so it wouldn't be too bad in long run (which they can't sign him for) I'm stricly asking for your opinion on Prospal. If you feel urge to add your input on grit which we've heard million times already, you are free to discuss in other thread. As a Red Sox fan I can tell you signing some one so that another team doesn't get them, instead of signing them to fill a need works about 5% or the time!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) A pretty physical winger who can score, comes fairly cheap, and is a UFA at the end of the season so Holland can decide to try and re-sign or let go based on his playoffs. Sounds pretty good to me. I wouldn't read too much into the +/-. He logs a lot of minutes and anyone not named Lecavelier or St. Louis dont have a very good +- either. Still, I haven't had an opportunity to see him play this season, so I can't say for sure. But on paper he looks pretty good. As for the "we don't need to get anybody" camp. The Patriots were great during the regular season too. The Wings have the cap space, and they do have some 2nd line scoring issues as well as a thin defense if someone goes down. Why not position themselves even better for a Cup run. Edited February 5, 2008 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 saw Prospal play a couple of times and he looks good. dependable team player who works hard and is a good chemistry guy with decent skills. I'd like him on Wings. my question is: if he's inexpensive and has fine set of skills - why the heck would Tampa want to trade him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 A pretty physical winger who can score, comes fairly cheap, and is a UFA at the end of the season so Holland can decide to try and re-sign or let go based on his playoffs. Sounds pretty good to me. I wouldn't read too much into the +/-. He logs a lot of minutes and anyone not named Lecavelier or St. Louis dont have a very good +- either. Still, I haven't had an opportunity to see him play this season, so I can't say for sure. But on paper he looks pretty good. As for the "we don't need to get anybody" camp. The Patriots were great during the regular season too. The Wings have the cap space, and they do have some 2nd line scoring issues as well as a thin defense if someone goes down. Why not position themselves even better for a Cup run. I agree with you conceptually and with the fact that I haven't seen him at all this year so I'm not sure how he would do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 saw Prospal play a couple of times and he looks good. dependable team player who works hard and is a good chemistry guy with decent skills. I'd like him on Wings. my question is: if he's inexpensive and has fine set of skills - why the heck would Tampa want to trade him? good question. Honestly I don't know. But they're competing with L.A. to be the worst team in the league. It's possible they'd have a fire sale, trying to shake things up and rebuild with youth and prospects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 my question is: if he's inexpensive and has fine set of skills - why the heck would Tampa want to trade him? 1) Since hes a UFA, theyll probably want to get something for him while his value is pretty high 2) He wont be that cheap after this season with the way hes played this year 3) They cut some payroll, which might facilitate their sale to Oren Koules 4) The lower they fall in the standings (not much more is possible), the easier it is for them to garner more chances at the 1st pick lottery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 Not what we need. Not physical, plays with Vinny and St Louis, anyone could have his numbers with those 2. Pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Not what we need. Not physical, plays with Vinny and St Louis, anyone could have his numbers with those 2. Pass. Prospal is a great player in his own right. And no player that we add who is phyiscal is going to be any better than a 3rd liner. And we have way too many of those. Somehow I have a feeling youd be singing a different tune if Sammy + 2 prospects and a pick were going TBs way, and Gratton and Prospal were coming our way..And believe it or not, on a team that has probably the worst scoring depth in the league, a cheap, still- signed 45 point skill guy like Sammy WOULD interest a team like Tampa Bay. Im guessing something like Sammy, Quincey, Oulahen and a 4th is what it would take to get those two.. Datsyuk-Hank-Homer Cleary-Flip-Prospal Hudler-Franzen-Gratton Maltby-Draper-Kopecky Drake - Ellis - Downey Thats some pretty nice size, grit, and depth Edited February 5, 2008 by YoungGuns1340 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) Right on! Who needs a guy taller than 5'8" with speed, & hands capable of netting 30 plus goals while shoring up our suspect 2nd line? EDIT - Oh wait...We do Like many others on this board, you're mixing up 'want' and 'need.' Do we WANT a guy of that sort? Yes. Do we NEED him? Hell no. As such, should we pay the price to get him and disrupt our team chemistry by making this trade? Do we really have a reason to? No. Edited February 5, 2008 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 Arron Asham Chris Gratton My wishlist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 Like many others on this board, you're mixing up 'want' and 'need.' Do we WANT a guy of that sort? Yes. Do we NEED him? Hell no. As such, should we pay the price to get him and disrupt our team chemistry by making this trade? Do we really have a reason to? No. I never really understood the argument that bringing in a player somehow disrupts this magic chemistry. Sure, a new player will have to learn the system, but we're talking about professional hockey players. It might take a bit to get all the nuances of their linemates, but I don't see how it will upset some team chemistry. They're all still playing hockey. Especially because with the exception of Hank Dats and Z, it's not like some line has clicked in some really special way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 He's no Ivanans. But because he's European, he has that "team toughness" that we're looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 Like many others on this board, you're mixing up 'want' and 'need.' Do we WANT a guy of that sort? Yes. Do we NEED him? Hell no. As such, should we pay the price to get him and disrupt our team chemistry by making this trade? Do we really have a reason to? No. Do we NEED the Stanley Cup? Theres no way in hell I wanna watch another team win the cup because we had key injuries and/or players who went cold in the midst of the hunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted February 6, 2008 My dream and somewhat realistic scenario Heres the moves that i think our possible and I would love. Imagine if we could pull all 3 off. To TB: Hudler, 2nd 4rth Det: Gratton, Prospal LA: Meech+ Kopecky DET: Rob Blake MON: Sammy and a 3rd DET: Ryder ZDH Ryder-Filp-Prospal -Cleary-Gratton-Franzen Maltby-Drapes-Drake Lidstrom-Kronwall Lilija- Ralaski Cheli- Blake Lebda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted February 6, 2008 My dream and somewhat realistic scenario Heres the moves that i think our possible and I would love. Imagine if we could pull all 3 off. To TB: Hudler, 2nd 4rth Det: Gratton, Prospal LA: Meech+ Kopecky DET: Rob Blake MON: Sammy and a 3rd DET: Ryder ZDH Ryder-Filp-Prospal -Cleary-Gratton-Franzen Maltby-Drapes-Drake Lidstrom-Kronwall Lilija- Ralaski Cheli- Blake Lebda Why would Holland shake up the roster like that? These guys are all performing really well together - no way he gives up much for Prospal just so he can sign somewhere else this summer. And Gratton? I wouldn't give up anything more then Sammy for him. He is an upgrade over Drake or Downey, thats all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
