The homer call could possibly be a good thing

[WingMachine91 0]

Ok. we know how bulls*** that call was, and how holmstrom has been called on this s*** all year. however, now that the refs screwed him on such an important goal that got national coverage, and obviously people are talking about it. Do u think that for the rest of the season or in the playoffs, they will actually lay off homer and not call these interference calls? By trying to be fair they might be a little too fair to make up for a stupid mistake. which could be good when it counts.

[Guest octopusdank]

Ok. we know how bulls*** that call was, and how holmstrom has been called on this s*** all year. however, now that the refs screwed him on such an important goal that got national coverage, and obviously people are talking about it. Do u think that for the rest of the season or in the playoffs, they will actually lay off homer and not call these interference calls? By trying to be fair they might be a little too fair to make up for a stupid mistake. which could be good when it counts.

interesting take on it, who knows?? i hope that guy will get punished soemhow, but he probably wont. at least the top suits in the NHL have alot of hot breath of their neck now.

[DRW Dominance 255]

Everything about that call was legit except for the fact that Homer was not penalized. He had his foot in the crease impeding Giguere. Osgood let in 3 bad goals and the whole team let him down on that Huskins goal. We made some mistakes and lost.

Take it as it is and move on.

[auxlepli 17]

Do u think that for the rest of the season or in the playoffs, they will actually lay off homer and not call these interference calls? By trying to be fair they might be a little too fair to make up for a stupid mistake. which could be good when it counts.

Maybe if it was another team, but this is the Red Wings. It pains Bettman to have traditional hockey market win the Stanley Cup. So no, things won't even out. The Wings have to be good to not only beat the other team, but they also have to beat a ton of bad calls.

[toby91_ca 620]

Maybe.

To be honest though, he probably gets away with some things as well. There is always going to be bad calls, you'll never get away from that as long as you have human involvement.

The fact is, Homer pushes the envelope in front of the net and he spends far more time there than most players in the league. Its only natural that there will be some bad calls. It may seem that he is unfairly targeted since the bad calls against him are normally resulting in goals being taken away, while bad calls against other players just result in penalties for the most part.

In terms of yesterday, I was not at home, didn't see the game, don't have any emotion behind reviewing the replays, etc., but in terms of such an important point in the season, etc.....ah, whatever. If the Wings were fighting for a playoff spot, sure, I would look at it a little closer and be a little more bothered by it, but until it REALLY impacts them (playoffs), I'll hold off.

[Yemack 1]

Refs change their mind every friggin game let alone a season and playoff. I see nothing positive about that one other than we got screwed big time.

[Superman54 91]

Everything about that call was legit except for the fact that Homer was not penalized. He had his foot in the crease impeding Giguere. Osgood let in 3 bad goals and the whole team let him down on that Huskins goal. We made some mistakes and lost.

Take it as it is and move on.

so its Jiggy and You who believe that crap

[Saran 1]

good point, i can see that happening kinda. since they messed up big that time they are gonna think twice before making another mistake like that.

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

Everything about that call was legit except for the fact that Homer was not penalized. He had his foot in the crease impeding Giguere. Osgood let in 3 bad goals and the whole team let him down on that Huskins goal. We made some mistakes and lost.

Take it as it is and move on.

Even Ducks fans are saying the call was bad......... Plus I'm not sure how the 3rd goal was a bad goal on Ozzie's part as much as crappy defending.

Edited February 11, 2008 by Mudvayneowns91

[awingsincebirth 0]

so its Jiggy and You who believe that crap

Actually, when I was taking a short drive after the game I heard a little blurb from the guy on the sports radio talk show saying that they had an audio clip from Jiggy, and even he thought that it was a questionable call.....

.....So, its him...just him

[b.shanafan14 733]

You would think that something like this would prompt them to lay off of Homer at last, but then again this is Gary Bettman's NHL afterall. How many legit goals have been disallowed this season alone purely because Homer was in front? 5 or 6 now. How many goals can you recall, even without "homer" shaded glasses, that were counted and shouldn't have been because Holmstrom interfered? NONE. They know they are bad calls in hindsight each time and they continue to call. Its like they are the guys trying to catch Capone slipping up and got nothing. Its like Bettman has a bounty on Homer's head and the one that catches him in the act of interfering gets a big fat reward. Its ridiculus. Do goalies hate being screened? YES. Is what Holmstrom does and is the best in the league at doing legal? YES.

I don't see them changing their ways, and certainly never will they give Holmstrom the benefit of the doubt. Its sad. Its pathetic. Its embarrassing for an otherwise heated game to be bastardized in the last minute on national broadcast. But it won't change, and refs will never have to own up to pissy calls that ruin games, and coaches and players that talk too much about poor officiating will continue under the threat of monetary fines and the system, the "sport" Gary Bettman so eagerly wants to market to everyone who doesn't like hockey will continue to replace the sport called hockey that anyone who actually cares is tuning in for.

[DRW Dominance 255]

Maybe it is just me. Or maybe I just enjoy it sometimes when the Wings lose and face some adversity. I hate seeing them coast through the regular season. I want this to be as tough as possible for them to realize what it might take. I also want Holland to tweak this team just a little cause right I don't see the Wings beating Anaheim in a seven game series.

[CrossCheck24 2]

Maybe it is just me. Or maybe I just enjoy it sometimes when the Wings lose and face some adversity.

"Are you mental" - Wayne's World

I'd like to see them breeze through the entire season and playoffs.

I don't see the Wings beating Anaheim in a seven game series.

After yesterday, i guess its up to the refs who wins.

[tiff_luvs_homer 5]

they're always picking on Homer... in my eyes he doesn't do anything wrong

[thedisappearer 291]

I think the call was BS but just to play Devil's Advocate...

... the goal was waved off immediately and after the replay, even I saw nothing to conclusively over rule the call. That top-down view just didn't show me how much contact Homer's ass made with JS.

[awingsincebirth 0]

Maybe it is just me. Or maybe I just enjoy it sometimes when the Wings lose and face some adversity. I hate seeing them coast through the regular season. I want this to be as tough as possible for them to realize what it might take. I also want Holland to tweak this team just a little cause right I don't see the Wings beating Anaheim in a seven game series.

I certainly don't think that its just you who thinks that. I can recall many people crediting our deep playoff run last year - as opposed to the collapses of the several years prior - to the fact that we were battling out the whole regular season with Nashville, getting us geared up for playoff hockey. I honestly think that this adversity isn't going to harm us at all.

Here's a Need for Speed analogy. You put the game on a really easy setting, and you get off to a huge lead real quick, and then toy just coast for the rest of the race, and you win. THat's not what you want at all! You want to be in the heat of the action, passing and wreaking havoc on all the other cars, because a) its a lot funner that way, and b) it makes you a better driver because of it. Personally, I wany our Wings to be better drivers....er....hockey players.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Ok. we know how bulls*** that call was, and how holmstrom has been called on this s*** all year. however, now that the refs screwed him on such an important goal that got national coverage, and obviously people are talking about it. Do u think that for the rest of the season or in the playoffs, they will actually lay off homer and not call these interference calls? By trying to be fair they might be a little too fair to make up for a stupid mistake. which could be good when it counts.

I'm no conspiracy theorist type person and I won't go to the extreme the Bettman "has it out" against some teams in the NHL, but unfortunately I don't think this bad call will have a significant effect on anything down the road, although I hope I am wrong. It was a bad call, but they happen in just about every game in every sport, so for better/worse we just have to deal with it. It's unfair, yes, but I doubt it will change much.

[VM1138 1,921]

Even Jiggy said the goal probably should have counted. Homer's feet were only in the crease for a split second and he p ulled out of it long before the puck got there. Jiggy came out into Homer.

We do need to move on, but we have drawn attention to a legitimate problem: Reffing in the NHL is too inconsistent, and there is no way to question any calls. This is the "Whistle Happy Ref Era" after all.

Now, as to you people wanting the Wings to lose to "face adversity" do I need to remind you adversity can be had without losing? Close wins are just as good. Come from behind wins are just as good. Losses do nothing but demoralize and make it harder to win.

[awingsincebirth 0]

Now, as to you people wanting the Wings to lose to "face adversity" do I need to remind you adversity can be had without losing? Close wins are just as good. Come from behind wins are just as good. Losses do nothing but demoralize and make it harder to win.

THis is true. Adversity doesn't only come in the form of losses. Close, come-from-behind wins can also build character.

However, do you not agree that where we are right now, where we stand in the standings, a loss probably won't factor into where we finish (assuming our season doesn't completely go into the toilet, which it won't). WIth that said, I think that if you have the right guys in the dressing room and the right guy behind the bench, losses don't have to be demoralizing, but can be a great way to build character and to provide some fuel for the fire when it really counts. That's why I don't mind it.

[Superman54 91]

I thought they would be easier on him after those couple of insidents in the begging of the year, guess not...

I think if this game were a playoff game, he wouldnt have waved it off, Holmstrom will get away with more when its the best time

[b.shanafan14 733]

Adversity I can definately stand. And I completely agree that the reason we made it so far in the playoffs last season was because we had to battle the entire season, things didn't come as easy. And the Red Wings as of late I believe have been getting lacks on defense and their secondary scoring is almost non-existant anymore. I do think hard fought games are good for a team.

That said, this situation doesn't have to do with the Wings winning too easily, or coasting. This has to do with a hard-fought, rivalry game, nationally televised for a change being decided not by the mutual fighting, working, adversity on the ice, but by a guy in stripes who made an absolute terrible, embarrassing call.

I know you don't think it was a penalty DRW Dominance, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion it was the very definition of horrible call and referee decided game. I'm all for adversity, but when you play 59:20 of hard-fought hockey and allow a officiating snafu like that, it makes it all meaningless.

[Guest paveldatsukthenextsavard]

Refs change their mind every friggin game let alone a season and playoff. I see nothing positive about that one other than we got screwed big time.

getting screwed big time is not something positive.

i hope the big brass looks at this and tells the refs to knock this kinda s*** off, but it probably won't happen.

[shannyfan1414 0]

I heard a good one on the radio after the game.

Some guy called in and claimed that one of refs was trying to fix the game. He claimed that the ref had some 30 grand on the game and that is why the goal was disallowed.

I'm going to go with this one and pretend that Homer doesn't get screwed by phantom calls from time to time.

[thedisappearer 291]

Here's a Need for Speed analogy.

Let's not compare video games to reality.

[dirac 0]

Actually, this may have been my fault...you see, I am a total die hard Wings fan who, because of the need for a job, moved to Boston. In the past 12 months, I have flown home to see 2 wings games. The first, conference finals v. Ducks and game ends with phantom call against Datsyuk, Ducks score and take momentum of series with an awful win.

Now Sunday, I get tix to another game, redemption for my last one? Nope!! Thanks refs.

So my apologies to all in Hockeytown. This is the last time I will attend a Ducks Wings game. Hopefully, this will have an impact (because we all know that if I forget to fly my Wings flag from my window in Boston, it causes the Wings to lose in San Jose). I am attending the Nashville game in March. If this happens again, I will NOT attend any playoff games.

In short, if I am the jinx...my apologies all.