Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&a...rticleid=356632 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 He is Niklas Kronwall. Not Kronvall as you and that NHL.com guy wrote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 I'm 100% the OP knows it's Kronwall, but it's sort of a joke around here because NHL.com refuses to change his name to Kronwall from Krovall But good read, I didn't know Maltby had such a man crush on Kronners :-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwinger4747 6 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 He is Niklas Kronwall. Not Kronvall as you and that NHL.com guy wrote. I think he knows. He capitalized the "V" in the title to draw attention to this misspelling I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cirov19 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) Yeah, the OP clearly knew that... Great article.. They also misspelled Lidstrom by putting Niklas Lidstrom rather than Nicklas.. I am kind of curious to this.. I have seen both cases of spelling several times.. On Detroit Red Wings sites it's Nicklas.. anywhere else it's usually Niklas. Does somebody know which it is? I'm almost positive it's Nicklas though. Just making sure. Edited March 12, 2008 by cirov19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 He is Niklas Kronwall. Not Kronvall as you and that NHL.com guy wrote. Wrong. Go look at any Swedish hockey website and you'll see Kronvall show up over and over. Same with Niklas Lidstrom. It turns out that Swedes speek a differant language than we do and it sometimes results in different spellings than English does! Nicklas and Kronwall are the English varents of Niklas and Kronvall. Regardless- I find it highly entertaining that people mock others for using the real spellings over the bastardized ones! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 Wrong. Go look at any Swedish hockey website and you'll see Kronvall show up over and over. Same with Niklas Lidstrom. It turns out that Swedes speek a differant language than we do and it sometimes results in different spellings than English does! Nicklas and Kronwall are the English varents of Niklas and Kronvall. Regardless- I find it highly entertaining that people mock others for using the real spellings over the bastardized ones! Until recently the letter "W" was treated as a variant form of "V" at least for sorting purposes, and this practice is still commonly encountered. However, in 2005 the Swedish Academy separated the two letters in conformity with international lexicographic practice. They appear under separate headings in the 13th edition of Svenska Akademiens Ordlista, released on 10 April 2006. W has nonetheless been an official letter in the Swedish alphabet, but sorted as if it were a V. The loan word "webb" is a word which has become rather common in Swedish since 1995. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Dats 'N Homer 81 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 Wrong. Go look at any Swedish hockey website and you'll see Kronvall show up over and over. Same with Niklas Lidstrom. It turns out that Swedes speek a differant language than we do and it sometimes results in different spellings than English does! Nicklas and Kronwall are the English varents of Niklas and Kronvall. Regardless- I find it highly entertaining that people mock others for using the real spellings over the bastardized ones! I was waiting for someone to come out and say it, but i didnt think it had to be put so harsh! lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 I was waiting for someone to come out and say it, but i didnt think it had to be put so harsh! lol Maybe I was a little harsh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amberlynn25 9 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 great article there is a reason for the V...Sweden has no W sound in the alphabet, so all W's are a V sound. so they say Sweden Sveden (or Sverige) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 good article, but i wish shanny and alfie and whoever else wouldnt bring up those injuries...they make me sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hak 21 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) Wrong. Go look at any Swedish hockey website and you'll see Kronvall show up over and over. Same with Niklas Lidstrom. It turns out that Swedes speek a differant language than we do and it sometimes results in different spellings than English does! Nicklas and Kronwall are the English varents of Niklas and Kronvall. Regardless- I find it highly entertaining that people mock others for using the real spellings over the bastardized ones! that's not really true alternate spellings of names is very common in sweden as im sure it is in america too. example: nicklas - niclas - niklas mathias - mattias michael - mikael jonathan - jonatan all of the above are very common names in sweden as is their spelling alternates so I wouldn't say there is a "swedish version" of the name i can also add that the later spelling is more common than the first. one more thing. I really think kronwall is the right spelling of his name edit: to the guy who say swedes have no W in their alphabet.. wtf? we do! Edited March 12, 2008 by hak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 Wrong. Go look at any Swedish hockey website and you'll see Kronvall show up over and over. Same with Niklas Lidstrom. It turns out that Swedes speek a differant language than we do and it sometimes results in different spellings than English does! Nicklas and Kronwall are the English varents of Niklas and Kronvall. Regardless- I find it highly entertaining that people mock others for using the real spellings over the bastardized ones! Kronwall is the correct spelling. Kronvall is the correct pronounciation. Take a look at his JERSEY for the correct spelling. It's "Kronwall" on both his Detroit jersey and his Sweden jersey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Systemfel 33 Report post Posted March 12, 2008 (edited) there is a reason for the V...Sweden has no W sound in the alphabet, so all W's are a V sound. so they say Sweden Sveden (or Sverige) Not really. We're perfectly capable of pronouncing the English W. W was used a lot more earlier in history, hence the W in Kronwall and many other names. Edited March 12, 2008 by Systemfel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lilja 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 Not really. We're perfectly capable of pronouncing the English W. W was used a lot more earlier in history, hence the W in Kronwall and many other names. But still there is no sounding in our language that is similar to the english pronouciation of the w. I think that was the point of the previous post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amberlynn25 9 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 But still there is no sounding in our language that is similar to the english pronouciation of the w. I think that was the point of the previous post. it was...im not swedish expert, it was just from what I know. thanks for the new knowledge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 Kronwall is the correct spelling. Kronvall is the correct pronounciation. Take a look at his JERSEY for the correct spelling. It's "Kronwall" on both his Detroit jersey and his Sweden jersey. True enough- that is what his jersey says. But Kronvall is a pretty common thing to see written from a Swede and certainly isn't something that deserves to be laughed at as if it's a misprint. My point is that people were mocking the writer of that article even though, ironically enough- Kronvall is a perfectly valid spelling choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 Kronwall or Kronvall, I couldn't really care less about which name is more "appropriate". Doesn't change the fact that he's a solid d-man and a solid person off the ice (or so I am assuming). Some people have their anal-attentiveness caps on in this thread it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 True enough- that is what his jersey says. But Kronvall is a pretty common thing to see written from a Swede and certainly isn't something that deserves to be laughed at as if it's a misprint. My point is that people were mocking the writer of that article even though, ironically enough- Kronvall is a perfectly valid spelling choice. No it's not. It's his name. "Kronvall" when referring to the Detroit defenseman IS a misprint. And as far as American media goes, NHL.com is the only site that hasn't corrected it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 No it's not. It's his name. "Kronvall" when referring to the Detroit defenseman IS a misprint. And as far as American media goes, NHL.com is the only site that hasn't corrected it.Right on man! The only pass they get from me is if they are joking around about the spelling and spelling the wrong way on purpose trying to be funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sevumar 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 Kronwall himself addressed this in a Q&A on the Wings' site. http://redwings.nhl.com/team/app/?service=...rticleid=349934 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) Right on man! The only pass they get from me is if they are joking around about the spelling and spelling the wrong way on purpose trying to be funny. No lie. Don't forget LGWers, there's a spelling quiz at 5:30pm today, and the ultimate deciding factor is spelling KRONWALL or KRONVALL the right way, and if you screw that up, you will fail and be thrown down your chimney into the fireplace and then have your no-no's chopped off. It's a sports forum people, it's not like we're composing a formal e-mail or a business report. I think there can be a little leeway towards a spelling error here and thee. We need to loosen up a little bit. Edited March 13, 2008 by SouthernWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 No it's not. It's his name. "Kronvall" when referring to the Detroit defenseman IS a misprint. And as far as American media goes, NHL.com is the only site that hasn't corrected it. Well geeze- he better change his passport then because I guess he's offended at the idea of his name being spelled both ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 How about a compromise? We'll just spell it Kronvvall. Not to change the subject, but I think it is cool that he credits Hasek, Lidstrom and Cheli as role models. I just like him more all the time, and I'm glad to see he's getting credit for his hard work, both offensively and defensively. I haven't seen a game since Stuart started, but from the sounds of it, they seem comfortable playing together. Anyone who gets the game on TV care to comment on that? Do they look good? I'm really glad to hear he's trying to learn to play smarter. He needs to avoid those injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown Red Wings 245 Report post Posted March 13, 2008 How about a compromise? We'll just spell it Kronvvall. Not to change the subject, but I think it is cool that he credits Hasek, Lidstrom and Cheli as role models. I just like him more all the time, and I'm glad to see he's getting credit for his hard work, both offensively and defensively. I haven't seen a game since Stuart started, but from the sounds of it, they seem comfortable playing together. Anyone who gets the game on TV care to comment on that? Do they look good? I'm really glad to hear he's trying to learn to play smarter. He needs to avoid those injuries. I bet you're glad you chose 55fan, rather than Kronwallfan or Kronvallfan. The complaining would never end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites