Fedorov's leadership lifting Capitals

[toby91_ca 620]

I didn't see this on here (though I probably missed it). Thought some might be interested in the read.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&a...rticleid=359029

[Sergeiwasmyfav 0]

Thank you very much for posting that article! I hadn't seen it, and really enjoyed reading it. I am so happy to see Feds having success with the Caps and enjoying the game again. He has always been a great playoff performer, and while he might not be able to put the points up he used to, I'm sure he will do everything he can to help the Caps in the playoffs. I only wish would could have gotten him here, but alas, it was not to be. Perhaps it was better for him to go to the Caps though, because the impact he is having there isn't really needed here as far as veteran leadership. We have plenty of that. So perhaps everything worked out for the best for everyone involved.

[12Newf 0]

i missed that one, thanks for the post. i love to hear that the capitals are taking advantage of having him around. i watch nearly every capitals game because ovechkin is so wicked but also to see sergei putting up some points again.

also mike greene, MAKE IT HAPPEN KENNY!

[OsGOD 3]

can't wait until friday when i can watch him in game 1 on VS sweeeeeet!

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

My brother works in D.C. and he has tickets to game 1 with the Capitals... ARgh, I'm so jealous

[OsGOD 3]

If he doesn't come to detroit this offseason i am going to be pissed... because going to Nationwide was so much easier (day trip actually) than going to DC... blah. Glad he is on TV though right now!

[Viperar 16]

ill be there rooting for them games 1 and 2!

Go Feds

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

If he doesn't come to detroit this offseason i am going to be pissed... because going to Nationwide was so much easier (day trip actually) than going to DC... blah. Glad he is on TV though right now!

Oh God (no pun intended) here we go again with the bring back Fedorov chant.

I will be so ******* glad when he finally retires. It's like 5 pages of threads will get weeded out of the system per year.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

I didn't see this on here (though I probably missed it). Thought some might be interested in the read.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&a...rticleid=359029

It's nice to hear that he is able to contribute a lot to a franchise that needs it.

good read, thanks for posting.

[Guest Leary Biscuit]

good to see him making an impact on the caps, would be cool to see him play on the powerplay with ovechkin

[wingslogo19 281]

ill be there rooting for them games 1 and 2!

Go Feds

Damn you Al .. Well have fun at the games buddy

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

Oh God (no pun intended) here we go again with the bring back Fedorov chant.

I will be so ******* glad when he finally retires. It's like 5 pages of threads will get weeded out of the system per year.

take it your not a fan then?

I personally hope that Feds come's back , the guy is a Wings legend and deserve's to retire.(when he finally does). where he enjoyed all the biggest success's of his career.

So for the reason of Feds being on the team i'm hoping that the Caps have a good Playoff's run.

[Opie 308]

I would like to know what feds did to deserve to come back a wing?

What did he sacrifice for the good of the team?

What did he ever do that showed he put the team ahead of himself?

Hey, if you like the guy and want to see him in a wings jersey, I could care, but saying he deserves to come back is a stretch.

I don't want to derail this thread with more he hates feds, he loves feds, she thinks he is an ass, so on and so forth just asking why he deserves to be a red wing.

Remember what being a Wing means!

I am not knocking his style, skill, abilities just curious as to why you think he deserves it.

Because to me, threatening to leave the team to force them to pay you more, or leaving for less money are reasons he doesn't deserve to be in the rafters or a Red Wing again. But that is my opinion.

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

I would like to know what feds did to deserve to come back a wing?

What did he sacrifice for the good of the team?

What did he ever do that showed he put the team ahead of himself?

Hey, if you like the guy and want to see him in a wings jersey, I could care, but saying he deserves to come back is a stretch.

I don't want to derail this thread with more he hates feds, he loves feds, she thinks he is an ass, so on and so forth just asking why he deserves to be a red wing.

Remember what being a Wing means!

I am not knocking his style, skill, abilities just curious as to why you think he deserves it.

Because to me, threatening to leave the team to force them to pay you more, or leaving for less money are reasons he doesn't deserve to be in the rafters or a Red Wing again. But that is my opinion.

So i guess you think the best year's of his career putting up the number's he did and the success's he helped bring to the Wings isn't deserving of catching a break and going back to where he enjoyed the best part of his career. i'm not 100% sure what happened but even if he did exactly what you said he did .... haven't you made a mistake in your life? if he wants to be a Wing and the Wings want him back then let him .

[Opie 308]

So i guess you think the best year's of his career putting up the number's he did and the success's he helped bring to the Wings isn't deserving of catching a break and going back to where he enjoyed the best part of his career. i'm not 100% sure what happened but even if he did exactly what you said he did .... haven't you made a mistake in your life? if he wants to be a Wing and the Wings want him back then let him .

I have made mistakes, but I also said I fuct up, he hasn't. Not that I think he has, I think if he left, whatever reason he left was his, maybe it was Yzerman's shadow, maybe it was Anna in Ca, but by the way he acted with Car made it seem like money, until he left for ANA for less money, who knows, but just because he put up numbers it doesn't mean he deserves to come back.

I personally think he is no better offensively than Sammy at this stage of his career, his defense is 50x better, he is much, much, much better at face offs.

Before you blow up and think I just put down Feds, I defend Sammy on these boards a ton, so I am one of the rarities on here that thinks he is worth more than a bag of pucks (and in some cases less)

This is the first I ever hear of Feds being a good leader, so I will reserve my comment on that until I see how well he leads WAS, but from what I read he was a disappointment in the leadership dept in Ana and Col. I have no knowledge of that though.

I would argue also that Shanny was a bigger part and the missing piece to the cups, not that feds was just a passenger. However when it came time for him to step up when Shanny and Yzerman were out of the playoffs what happened.

Feds was a huge whipping boy on this board at the end of his wings tenure, he got bagged on for the goal where he didn't back check (against LA, that goal pretty much sealed that first round exit), more than Lilja for his hand over to Teemu.

He got bashed for not being able to lead the team when Shanny and Yzerman were injured and out of the line up.

I would argue that the Red Wings did more for his career than he ever did for the Wings, because before them it wasn't like the NHL was ravaging Mother Russia's talent like it is today.

He came to Detroit and played with 2 future hall of famers on his line, not to mention the ones on other lines or the blue line.

Look at AO, he is the central focus for Was, who else scares anyone, when Feds hit the league he wasn't as known as AO is now, and he had a team with other names on it.

I would venture to say if not for the Wings and their airplane he would not have been in the NHL for a couple of years at least.

Now all of his accolades and awards are well deserved, don't get me wrong, I am not saying he sucked and was lazy, but to me he owes the wings and when he had a chance to pay them back, he forced their hand with the offer sheet to Car, then when that contract was up he bolted for the west coast with a thinner wallet than if he had stayed.

Edit:

So you think the team owes him for the best years of his career, or he owes them. I guess it is a matter of if you think the player or the team did more for the other. I just don't think it is a coincidence that he hasn't put up anything close to what he put up in the D. Yeah his first year in ANA was great but after that he falls off a little.

Edited April 7, 2008 by Opie

[Manoir 70]

I would love A Wings-Caps final.

[seeinred 1,488]

Oh God (no pun intended) here we go again with the bring back Fedorov chant.

I will be so ******* glad when he finally retires. It's like 5 pages of threads will get weeded out of the system per year.

It's ok, more "Should Sergei's number be retired?" threads will take the place of those ones. Yes, even more of them.

[Barrie 900]

We'll never bring Fedorov back. Besides we have a lot of up and coming young defenseman I'd rather see in Detroit over Fedorov, and I'm sure the organization feels the same way.

[DaKineMaui 8]

It's ok, more "Should Sergei's number be retired?" threads will take the place of those ones. Yes, even more of them.

I think I figured out my bottom-line opinion on Sergei and the #91 in the rafters: He and only He had the opportunity to make that happen. I'm not positive Sergei gives a s*** about any #91 getting retired. I don't see it.

He's made his choices. Some of them I disagree with, but we aren't all as lucky as me. I have led a mistake-free life so far.

So now he's on an NHL team that desperately needs/needed him. Not too shabby.

I'm rooting for the Caps and Sergei and AO until the 9th O.T. in game 7 vs. the Habs. At which point I jump ship.

aloha

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

then when that contract was up he bolted for the west coast with a thinner wallet than if he had stayed.

why did he bolt? what was his reasoning? going with what i've heard. he left cause the Wings offered him one contract that he'd accepted and then when he went to sign it the term's had changed. i'm not sure how you'd react to that but i'd be insulted if that happened to me. loyalty is a two way thing . it's not always solely the player/employee's fault .

[LeftWinger 5,153]

I would argue also that Shanny was a bigger part and the missing piece to the cups, not that feds was just a passenger. However when it came time for him to step up when Shanny and Yzerman were out of the playoffs what happened.

Feds was a huge whipping boy on this board at the end of his wings tenure, he got bagged on for the goal where he didn't back check (against LA, that goal pretty much sealed that first round exit), more than Lilja for his hand over to Teemu.

He got bashed for not being able to lead the team when Shanny and Yzerman were injured and out of the line up.

...Never stepped up? Ahem, 1994? Need we say more? Uh in 2003, after the sweep, who was their leading scorer? Fedorov

...The reason he left Detroit, do yo really want to know? Can you swallow this? In December of 2002, Ken Holland told Fedorov here is what we are offering. Fedorov told him, it looks good, but I am going through a divorce, looking for a new agent and going through some other personal issues. Can we talk about this later? Holland told him no, this offer won't be on the table long. So when finally Fedorov got his poersonal life somewhat in order, he contacted Holland and low and behold the offer went down and so did the legnth of it. The original offer was 5 years at around 11 million per. The last offer was 4 years at 10 million. Slap! Ken Holland teaches Fedorov not to play games, well Fedorov then made up his mind, (before the season was over) he was going to leave. He signed with Anaheim for the same 10million but for 5 years. PLUS he got to hang out in LA after the game instead of Detroit, BONUS!!! Holland thought he could control Fedorov, like Fedorov owed them. Well, for the longest time Fedorov made $285,000 per season, even during his MVP/Selke year. The Wings owed HIM. The Wings tried to screw him, he screwed back. Now, they want him back (as evident by the trade deadline) Holland wanted him back BAD, but (and rightly so) didn't want to part with Filpulla. Lets hope that when he calls Feds over the summer that Feds is still interested in coming back here. Who knows, he just may like playing with AO...

Edited April 7, 2008 by LeftWinger

[Barrie 900]

Looking back on what Holland offered Fedorov in December 2002, it's probably better it wasn't signed. I think we would have been in a bit of salary cap trouble after the lockout with Fedorov on the books. Who else would we have had to buy out to get under the cap before the 2005-06 season?

[Sergeiwasmyfav 0]

...Never stepped up? Ahem, 1994? Need we say more? Uh in 2003, after the sweep, who was their leading scorer? Fedorov

...The reason he left Detroit, do yo really want to know? Can you swallow this? In December of 2002, Ken Holland told Fedorov here is what we are offering. Fedorov told him, it looks good, but I am going through a divorce, looking for a new agent and going through some other personal issues. Can we talk about this later? Holland told him no, this offer won't be on the table long. So when finally Fedorov got his poersonal life somewhat in order, he contacted Holland and low and behold the offer went down and so did the legnth of it. The original offer was 5 years at around 11 million per. The last offer was 4 years at 10 million. Slap! Ken Holland teaches Fedorov not to play games, well Fedorov then made up his mind, (before the season was over) he was going to leave. He signed with Anaheim for the same 10million but for 5 years. PLUS he got to hang out in LA after the game instead of Detroit, BONUS!!! Holland thought he could control Fedorov, like Fedorov owed them. Well, for the longest time Fedorov made $285,000 per season, even during his MVP/Selke year. The Wings owed HIM. The Wings tried to screw him, he screwed back. Now, they want him back (as evident by the trade deadline) Holland wanted him back BAD, but (and rightly so) didn't want to part with Filpulla. Lets hope that when he calls Feds over the summer that Feds is still interested in coming back here. Who knows, he just may like playing with AO...

I had heard that this is what happened as well. One of the reporters from either the Freep or the Detroit News (I can't remember which) wrote an article soon after Feds signed with Anaheim that pointed out how the situation was the fault of both sides to some extent. Most people just choose to forget that.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

If they really wanted to sign someone who knows what it takes to win a Cup, they should have gotten Anders Eriksson.

In all seriousness, I've never thought of Feds as a leader, in Detroit or outside of it. This is the first time he's been to the playoffs since he left Hockeytown, and it doesn't look like he inspired his other teams to make it to the playoffs. They way Ovechkin and Huet played to end the season, althoutgh Feds contributed, those guys should take most of the credit.

[eva unit zero 271]

Looking back on what Holland offered Fedorov in December 2002, it's probably better it wasn't signed. I think we would have been in a bit of salary cap trouble after the lockout with Fedorov on the books. Who else would we have had to buy out to get under the cap before the 2005-06 season?

Having Fedorov would have been likely offset by:

No Lang; that trade never happens if Fedorov is still around.

Datsyuk cheaper, likely ~2.4-2.6m

Zetterberg cheaper, likely ~1.7-1.9