Should Downey Play in the first game

[lets go pavel 2]

Well I aim to please

I wasnt really arguing...more calmly being better than the other dude.

sorry, should have been more specific ... i was referring to the original poster ...

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

In terms of the last few forwards in the pecking order, I'd put Downey in over Hartigan and McCarty, but I'm definitely no master coach so Babcock must feel Hartigan has more potential to contribute in the playoffs over Downey, at least in terms of offensive potential I guess.

[WhiteCloud 0]

Seriously, I think my head is going to explode with the inane circular logic expressed by the OP. There is no basis on logic or reality in any of his posts. Downey has done nothing this season that indicates he will be a playoff liability. In fact he has done the exact opposite. Sometimes I wish he was a bit more aggressive but I suppose he is restraining himself at the behest of Babcock. I for one am happy that the Wings actually have someone that has the ability to make opponents accountable if they decide to run at the Wings star players. It is something they have been missing for far too long.

The OP just needs to give it up because he makes no sense and his arguments lack proof or any basis in reality. Oh, and as far as the Wings getting hosed by the refs...take the homer glasses off. While I do get pissed at bad calls EVERY team in the league faces bad calls and the Wings are not singled out more than any other team. I watch a ton of hockey and every team faces the same calls. Nobody is out for the Wings and generally the calls end up evening out. Stating that the Wings get hosed more than anyone else is ridiculous and makes your argument even more nonsensical, if that is possible.

[Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65]

For all who haven't heard, Downey isn't playing tonight, like i suggested

[uk_redwing 495]

For all who haven't heard, Downey isn't playing tonight, like i suggested

I quote from MLive

Update from the morning skate: Coach Mike Babcock said right wing Mikael Samuelsson will be in the lineup tonight in Game 1 vs. Nashville, after missing five games with a sore groin. Babcock said the only decision he still has to make is whether to use Darren McCarty or Aaron Downey at right wing on the fourth line. Defenseman Brad Stuart will return after missing eight games with a broken finger.

Here's the expected line combinations:

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom

Filppula-Franzen-Cleary

Hudler-Draper-Samuelsson

Drake-Hartigan-Downey or McCarty

I hope he plays just so I can rub it in your face.

[Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65]

and i quote from red wings corner

Darren McCarty will be in the lineup tonight with Aaron Downey a healthy scratch. Mikael Samuelsson and Brad Stuart will both be in the lineup. Detroit's lines look like they will be ...

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom

Filppula-Franzen-Cleary

Hudler-Draper-Samuelsson

Drake-Hartigan-McCarty

Lidstrom-Rafalski

Kronwall-Stuart

Lilja-Chelios

Hasek (starts)

Osgood

Healthy scratches ...

Downey

Abdelkader

Helm

Lebda

Meech

Injuries ...

Maltby (hamstring)

Kopecky (knee)

[uk_redwing 495]

Well seeing as the MLive article was published 10 minutes AFTER Bruce's and that they have obviously spoken to Babcock I think thats the one we should trust.

Edited April 10, 2008 by uk_redwing

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

and i quote from red wings corner

Darren McCarty will be in the lineup tonight with Aaron Downey a healthy scratch. Mikael Samuelsson and Brad Stuart will both be in the lineup. Detroit's lines look like they will be ...

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom

Filppula-Franzen-Cleary

Hudler-Draper-Samuelsson

Drake-Hartigan-McCarty

Lidstrom-Rafalski

Kronwall-Stuart

Lilja-Chelios

Hasek (starts)

Osgood

Healthy scratches ...

Downey

Abdelkader

Helm

Lebda

Meech

Injuries ...

Maltby (hamstring)

Kopecky (knee)

Downey should be in for Hartigan. There's nothing Hartigan can do that Downey can't.

Sammy and Hudler on the same line? That line could be ugly to watch.

Edited April 10, 2008 by GMRwings1983

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

and i quote from red wings corner

Darren McCarty will be in the lineup tonight with Aaron Downey a healthy scratch. Mikael Samuelsson and Brad Stuart will both be in the lineup. Detroit's lines look like they will be ...

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom

Filppula-Franzen-Cleary

Hudler-Draper-Samuelsson

Drake-Hartigan-McCarty

Lidstrom-Rafalski

Kronwall-Stuart

Lilja-Chelios

Hasek (starts)

Osgood

Healthy scratches ...

Downey

Abdelkader

Helm

Lebda

Meech

Injuries ...

Maltby (hamstring)

Kopecky (knee)

Does this validate your original post? Unless Babcock states that he's sitting Downey for fear of his "bad and untimely penalties that cost us so many games" it really has no bearing on why you started this thread.

By the way, I eat 15 year olds for breakfast and poop them out by 10:30 am. Yummy!

[esteef 2,679]

For all who haven't heard, Downey isn't playing tonight, like i suggested

What a laugh! Trying to save some face are you? Whether he actually plays tonight or not is irrelevant, your reasoning is still retarded.

esteef

[Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65]

Does this validate your original post? Unless Babcock states that he's sitting Downey for fear of his "bad and untimely penalties that cost us so many games" it really has no bearing on why you started this thread.

Then why is babcock playing McCarty instead of Downey, if you think Downey is so much better

[uk_redwing 495]

Then why is babcock playing McCarty instead of Downey, if you think Downey is so much better

Look mate you got owned so badly yesturday and I know you're trying to get a little bit of dignity back but trust me your making it worse.

Heres some advice, never post anything Downey related again.

[Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65]

If everyone thinks Downey is cool heaed and knows when to do his thing, then why is he not playing

[uk_redwing 495]

If everyone thinks Downey is cool heaed and knows when to do his thing, then why is he not playing

We dont even know if he is playing or not yet ffs.

See you ignored my advice so Im just gonna watch everyone rip into you until the game starts.

[Opie 308]

We dont even know if he is playing or not yet ffs.

See you ignored my advice so Im just gonna watch everyone rip into you until the game starts.

*Cough*

Mac in downey out

*Cough*

Read some posts!!!

[Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65]

and when Downey isn't playing, you will be wrong and i'll be right

[Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65]

*Cough*

Mac in downey out

*Cough*

Read some posts!!!

Thank you, Im not saying downey wont play at all, just not tonight

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

and when Downey isn't playing, you will be wrong and i'll be right

Spoken like a true child.

That's what this is about for you now. And i'm glad you are right. Good for you. Being right is good. I should know because i'm always right.

But, you don't know why Downey isn't playing over Mac. You have YOUR reason for why you think he shouldn't play. But for all you know Babcock wants to get McCarty more game time or he thinks Mac handles the puck better or whatever. There's any number of reasons why Babcock is making his decisions.

You started this thread and made it about Downey taking bad penalties. You couldn't prove your point then and you can't now. And now you're asking us why Downey isn't playing over Mac. It's like you want us to disprove something you haven't even proven yourself. Which is your assertion that Downey is being scratched b/c he can't control himself.

I hope what i'm saying isn't flying over your head.

[Superman54 91]

you are 15 arent u....

OK HERE WE GO

YES UR PROBABLY RIGHT, DOWNEY IS NOT PLAYING....BUT NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT U STATED!!! YOU ARE TYING TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE ALL OF LGW IS DUMB, BUT THEY HARDLY EVER SAID DOWNEY WAS GONNA PLAY, JUST SAID HE SHOULD! YOUR FACTS ABOUT HIM PLAYING WERE THE s***TIEST FACTS ALIIIIIIIIIVE. UR ASS GOT LUCKY, BUT PLEASE STOP MAKING IT SOUND LIKE YOU KNEW ALL ALONG, AND THAT YOUR REASONS WERE LEGIT. IF I WERE YOU I WOULD START A NEW ACCOUNT SO NO ONE WILL LOOK AT U LIKE A RETARD! WHY DO U HAVE TO GET ME SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO UPSET DURING GAME NIGHT

like............................................................................

............FUCCCCCCCCCCCCK!

Ok all better!

[lets go pavel 2]

hey guys, i don't think downey should play because an ostrich climbed up his ass and nested in his small intestine, and he has been on the toilet for the last 16 hours trying to pass the ostrich eggs back out his ass ...

... oh look ... downey's not playing ... I WAS RIGHT! IT WAS THE OSTRICH!

damn logic ...

[Guest MrSandMan]

Maybe Babcock will read this thread and change his mind... or maybe Babcock will read this thread and think there are a bunch of tards at LGW.... or maybe Babcock won't read this thread after all.

I'll guess the latter-

Jm2c

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Maybe Babcock will read this thread and change his mind... or maybe Babcock will read this thread and think there are a bunch of tards at LGW.... or maybe Babcock won't read this thread after all.

I'll guess the latter-

Jm2c

Speak for yourself. Mike Babcock has already told me that I am not a tard. He likes to refer to me instead as a major league asshat.

[Opie 308]

Speak for yourself. Mike Babcock has already told me that I am not a tard. He likes to refer to me instead as a major league asshat.

It's true, babs does call you an Asshat, but he told me I am his only ass puppet!

uhh maybe I should keep that a secret!

[Inultus 12]

They should both play. NO HARTIGAN, this guy takes more penalties then Downey! If you watch the games you'd know this, I watched every game this year. Hartigan took ALOT of hooking penalties and a couple holding ones, Downey takes instigating and roughing penalties. He finishes checks, and he forechecks, and he protects the guys.

McCarty and Downey. No Hartigan. Case closed.

WTF? Look at the stats. Hartigan has WAY less PIM than Downey and he has more points in less than half the games than Downey does.

Congrats, you watch the games, so do I. Hartigan>Downey except for fighting. The stats don't lie.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

It's true, babs does call you an Asshat, but he told me I am his only ass puppet!

uhh maybe I should keep that a secret!

three letters...........TMI