Zeke 5 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I know,I know,you never change a winning lineup.... ....but,I think we can improve on our performance with some tinkering for next game. Here are the changes I would make: 1) McCarty for Downey ...give us more energy and keep an eye on Tootoo 2)Hartigan for Abelkader...bigger,younger,faster.....still not sure why #44 is on this team 3) and the toughest one: Chelios for Lebda...I know he's the vet ,but he gave it away often and looked like a pylon at times out there (I'm not a big Lebda fan,but he can match the speed of the preds) Will Babs dare make changes? Would any of the Wings faithful? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut22 81 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 3) and the toughest one: Chelios for Lebda...I know he's the vet ,but he gave it away often and looked like a pylon at times out there (I'm not a big Lebda fan,but he can match the speed of the preds) as much as I would love to see Lebda in the game, I was at the game last night and Chelios had a few shifts where he was just a beast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 The only one that I would care about is the last one, in the post season you cannot have enough experience on the blue line, and most importantly: On Saturday he would break the record for most playoff games. The only foreseeable trouble with Nashville will lie with Kronwall, I can see the preds wanting to show him that they will not tolerate it, other than that, I don't see a big problem. And as I said before I think Z could take Tootoo in a fair clean fight (never going to happen with Tootoo). Mac or Drake should be able to handle him without the need for Downey, however if Babs thought there was a need for Downey I would not be upset in the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awingsincebirth 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I know,I know,you never change a winning lineup.... ....but,I think we can improve on our performance with some tinkering for next game. Here are the changes I would make: 1) McCarty for Downey ...give us more energy and keep an eye on Tootoo 2)Hartigan for Abelkader...bigger,younger,faster.....still not sure why #44 is on this team 3) and the toughest one: Chelios for Lebda...I know he's the vet ,but he gave it away often and looked like a pylon at times out there (I'm not a big Lebda fan,but he can match the speed of the preds) Will Babs dare make changes? Would any of the Wings faithful? I'm all for these two moves! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwings56 1 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I don't think Downey is needed. Hardly ever fighting in the playoffs anyway. The Wings held their own. I would like to see Abdeldakar, but 44 is not playing bad, he is doing exactly what is expected = he deserves to be in the lineup. On a side not Homer played well last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I think not hearing Hartigans name is like not hearing the officials name mentioned, it means they are doing exactly what they are suppossed to, I wouldn't mind hearing his name associated with scoring but I highly doubt that is what babs is looking for from him. But I am neither here nor there on who plays on that line, I have faith babs will do the right thing. Interesting side note here: some one in this or another thread that the line changes were Bowman esque, I think that is what made the wings so successful this past playoff as opposed to the previous ones. Neither Lewis nor Babs seemed like they felt they could move the lines around without either pissing players off or screwing up chemistry. There is a reason Bowman has all of those rings, and it is not because he has so many fingers!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death2duder 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I would rather keep McCarty... Although Downey gets into fights, I don't think I've ever seen him actually win one. I'm more scared of my 5 year old daughter than I would be of Downey. The sole purpose of McCarty and Downey is to keep the opposition from bullying around our stars. McCarty did a good job of that last game. Although he didn't get in a fight, he was the Preds face any time they started to get chippy. Keep Chelios... I'm all for experience on the blue line in the playoffs. Until Nashville starts skating circles around him he should stay in the line-up. I think Hartigan is doing fine but it wouldn't hurt the Wings to get Abdelkader some playoff time and see what he can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Third Man In 2,091 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 Sorry, Zeke, but I disagree with all three. No way do you take out Cheli for Lebs--though Lebs needs to be ready because he's gonna play these playoffs. Mac's done alright so far, was standing up to Tootoo, and brings more offensively and defensively than Downey as long as he doesn't start looking slow. I like Abdelkader, but no way do you throw a kid with a couple games of NHL experience into the playoffs unless you really have to. Opie's right: if Hartigan isn't drawing attention he's doing his job perfectly in place of Malts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvxp 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I know,I know,you never change a winning lineup.... ....but,I think we can improve on our performance with some tinkering for next game. Here are the changes I would make: 1) McCarty for Downey ...give us more energy and keep an eye on Tootoo 2)Hartigan for Abelkader...bigger,younger,faster.....still not sure why #44 is on this team 3) and the toughest one: Chelios for Lebda...I know he's the vet ,but he gave it away often and looked like a pylon at times out there (I'm not a big Lebda fan,but he can match the speed of the preds) Will Babs dare make changes? Would any of the Wings faithful? I agree with the first one. I think Downey is faster and hits more, Mac is getting better but I would rotate these two. The rest of the line up I would leave the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KDDRWINGS1 9 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) I would save Downey for the third and fourth games in Nashville but unfortunately when Maltby comes back either Hartigan or Mac will be out anyway so Downey and Abdelkader move even futher down the list unless someone else gets hurt or screws up big time. Did anybody listen to the video recap on TSN where the announcer said Lebda took a shot during the game. I don't like Lebda at all but I still found it funny. He must of got him confused with Stuart (#22 and #23). Everyone's entitled to an opinin but taking out Cheli for Lebda on the third pairing would be stupid. Cheli and Lilja are p.k.er's and purely a defensive unit if anybody thinks Lebda plays better D than Chelios then lets check back in twenty years and see if anybody remembers Lebdas name. The guy is a jerk and sucks I hope they trade him in the off season or let him become a ufa when the time comes. Edited April 11, 2008 by KDDRWINGS1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I would leave McCarty for now as the more he plays, the more potential he has to be "Downey-Plus" as his overall game is better. Other than that you've got guys with similar roles, though you can't say enough about what Downey's meant to this team. He's a great guy to have around to say the least. No way you take out Chelios. I wouldn't be surprised to see Abelhoweveryouspellit in at some point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death2duder 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I've never heard of Abelhoweveryouspellit... Must be another upcoming European prospect!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 ablecakeeater is a Sparty boy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwings56 1 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) I've never heard of Abelhoweveryouspellit... Must be another upcoming European prospect!!!! Death2Dudler That is why you just joined yesterday. Looks like you don't follow them much. also, DRAKE FIGHTS TOOTOO TOMORROW Guaranteed! Edited April 11, 2008 by redwings56 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death2duder 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 Death2Dudler That is why you just joined yesterday. Looks like you don't follow them much. also, DRAKE FIGHTS TOOTOO TOMORROW Guaranteed! i see we don't pick up on sarcasm around this forum too easily. Sorry, I'll try to keep to simpler humor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 Although Downey gets into fights, I don't think I've ever seen him actually win one. I hope you're not serious. He's not a great fighter but he certainly won more than he lost this year and for his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 DRAKE FIGHTS TOOTOO TOMORROW Guaranteed! I think TooToo would win. Sorry to say it...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hank=FutureCaptain Report post Posted April 11, 2008 Applicator over Hartigan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death2duder 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I call 'em as I see 'em. I realize many may disagree but it seems to me that he hits the ice first more often than not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 lebda will never have as much skill and presence as cheli brings to this team right now....and mccarty is way better than downey but i agree hartigan should be out and abds or downey should be in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I hope you're not serious. He's not a great fighter but he certainly won more than he lost this year and for his career. Downey has stood up for this team all season long,and I think he deserved a few minutes in this game as appreciation by Babcock. McCarty is a walk up at the end of the season and is rewarded ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 If it ain't broke don't fix it!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 I don't think Downey is needed. Hardly ever fighting in the playoffs anyway. The Wings held their own. I would like to see Abdeldakar, but 44 is not playing bad, he is doing exactly what is expected = he deserves to be in the lineup. On a side not Homer played well last night. Then how come other teams dress enforcers. Is everyone else so stupid, yet we're so smart that we're dressing Hartigan instead of Downey. I would rather keep McCarty... Although Downey gets into fights, I don't think I've ever seen him actually win one. I'm more scared of my 5 year old daughter than I would be of Downey. The sole purpose of McCarty and Downey is to keep the opposition from bullying around our stars. McCarty did a good job of that last game. Although he didn't get in a fight, he was the Preds face any time they started to get chippy. Keep Chelios... I'm all for experience on the blue line in the playoffs. Until Nashville starts skating circles around him he should stay in the line-up. I think Hartigan is doing fine but it wouldn't hurt the Wings to get Abdelkader some playoff time and see what he can do. That might be the most uniformed post ever on LGW. How many games have you watched this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death2duder 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 How is that uninformed? I expressed an opinion about Downey's fighting abilities... It is an opinion from what I have seen. Wow... I cannot believe the responses from this forum. I signed up because I figured I would join a community of wings fans that can have a discussion. Why is everyone so freakin sensitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 11, 2008 How is that uninformed? I expressed an opinion about Downey's fighting abilities... It is an opinion from what I have seen. Wow... I cannot believe the responses from this forum. I signed up because I figured I would join a community of wings fans that can have a discussion. Why is everyone so freakin sensitive. Because Downey hasn't lost a fight this season. All his fights have been wins or draws. As for McCarty, we all love him, but he's not a great enforcer at this point in his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
