The Ducks are done!

[Sergeiwasmyfav 0]

Somehow I don't think the Ducks are out of this yet, and I hope the Stars aren't thinking like that, because if they are, the Ducks will win. That being said, I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed watching the Ducks get booed off of their own ice last night. However, I still think they can turn it around. Wouldn't it be a beautiful thing though if they got swept the year after winning the Cup, since that is what they did to us in '03. If it happens, there will be no more appropriate time for the expression "Karma's a b*tch."

[dr_lobster 0]

I wouldn't call it yet. Dallas made an equal number of mistakes last night penalty-wise, the only difference is they capitalized on Anaheim's.

More importantly, I think the concern is that Dallas could emerge with a head-full of steam.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Somehow I don't think the Ducks are out of this yet, and I hope the Stars aren't thinking like that, because if they are, the Ducks will win. That being said, I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed watching the Ducks get booed off of their own ice last night. However, I still think they can turn it around. Wouldn't it be a beautiful thing though if they got swept the year after winning the Cup, since that is what they did to us in '03. If it happens, there will be no more appropriate time for the expression "Karma's a b*tch."

Ok. You are right they are not technically out of it yet. Alot of people compared their fate to the Wings in '02 when we went down 2-0 to Vancouver. There is no comaprison. We lost the first game in OT and the second 4-2 with the last beong an empty netter. So we lost 2 1 goal games in '02.

The Duckies however have lost 4-0 and 5-2. It's one thing to come back and win a series when you lose the first two games by 1 goal and quite another to turn it around when you lose the first 2 games by a combined score of 9-2.

That said, I hope the rest of the series goes like this:

Game 3 - Dallas in 3 OT Dallas 3-0 in series

Game 4 - Aneheim in 3 OT Dallas 3-1 in series

Game 5 - Aneheim in 3 OT Dallas 3-2 in series

Game 6 - Dallas in 10 OT Dallas wins 4-2

Final Dallas 4-2. If it happens this way, Aneheim is 1 loss away from elimination in 3 straight games. I DON't want a game 7 because anything can happen. A sweep would be sweet but we need for Aneheim to beat the hell out of Dallas physically so that they are a broken team by the time we play them.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Not to nitpick, but Anaheim has a 1.0 GFA over the first two games.

0 Goals in Game 1, 2 Goals in Game 2. 2 Goals/2 Games = 1.0 GFA.

You are right. I am so excited that I can't diviide. 1.0 GFA it is. Also what happened to "the greatest defense that ever played the game". 9 goals in 2 games = 4.5 GAA. OUCH!

[Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 65]

I would hope for a sweep, more humiliation for the Ducks

[CAredwingsfan91 28]

jinxed

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

I think he meant Detroit was the only team to come back from losing their first two games in Round 1 on the road to win the Cup. Only six other times has a team lost both 1 and 2 at home in Round one and still won the ROUND, let alone the Cup.

EDIT: One of those six occurences was 1992, when Detroit went down 2-0 and 3-1 vs Minnesota before securing the series in seven games. Perhaps the closest a team has ever come to being swept and still winning the series, as Detroit's game 3 victory was almost a defeat as well.

Eva, I might be wrong, but didn't Carolina win the Cup in 2006 after going down 2-0 to Montreal?

Also, you guys are all overreacting. If we were down 2-0 to Nashville, most people here wouldn't be saying that it's over. These are the defending champs we're talking about, and Dallas isn't exactly known for being a great playoff team that can close series' out.

[Guest MrSandMan]

Regardless the 0-2 disadvantage against the mighty ducks, the Stars are playing like they want it more.

I read an interview somewhere with sissy-Pronger basically saying the Ducks don't really want it... (this is completely paraphrased, but that's what I got out of his comments)

Stars sweep the ducks if the ducks are not going to show up... Then all the sports analysts will make excuses for Ducks and say they should have won the series because they are built for the playoffs moreso than Stars... isn't that how it goes?

Edited April 13, 2008 by MrSandMan

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Um, last time I checked it takes 4 games to win a playoff series.

1999: Detroit was up 2-0 against Colorado, lost the next 4

2001: Detroit was up 2-0 against Los Angeles, lost the next 4

2002: Detroit was down 2-0 against Vancouver, won the next 4

2008: Detroit is up 2-0 against Nashville, the series remains to be seen

I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch. None of these series are even remotely close to being over yet.

[eva unit zero 271]

Eva, I might be wrong, but didn't Carolina win the Cup in 2006 after going down 2-0 to Montreal?

Also, you guys are all overreacting. If we were down 2-0 to Nashville, most people here wouldn't be saying that it's over. These are the defending champs we're talking about, and Dallas isn't exactly known for being a great playoff team that can close series' out.

Carolina started at home. In fact, they played all four rounds with home-ice advantage.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Carolina started at home. In fact, they played all four rounds with home-ice advantage.

So did the Wings in 2002, or am I missing what the argument was?

[chrisdetroit 189]

Eva, I might be wrong, but didn't Carolina win the Cup in 2006 after going down 2-0 to Montreal?

Also, you guys are all overreacting. If we were down 2-0 to Nashville, most people here wouldn't be saying that it's over. These are the defending champs we're talking about, and Dallas isn't exactly known for being a great playoff team that can close series' out.

Yes they did BUT 1 of the 2 was an OT loss. They got blown out 6-1 in the first game and lost in OT in the second. And the Wings being down to Vancouver 2-0 in 2002 also was different because that was a 1 goal loss followed by an OT loss.

The Duckies have lost 4-0 and 5-2. It's not just that they lost, it's that they got killed both games.

The fact that they are the defending champs means nothing. It means that they won last year. That has no bearing on this year. They don't have the same players and they are not playing Vancouver and Minnesota.

Dallas' playoff woes the last few years also doesn't mean anything. I could mean that they underachieve and it could mean that they are hungrier.

If we were down 2-0 to Nashville after getting beat 4-0 and 5-2 it would pretty much be over as much as we wouldn't want to admit it.

We will see where the Duckies are next week. I am betting that they will be playing golf.

[DyingAlive 27]

I agree, it's not time to say that the Ducks are done. They are far from done, however, I side with most of you. Go Dallas!

[Gutierrez 7]

Um, last time I checked it takes 4 games to win a playoff series.

1999: Detroit was up 2-0 against Colorado, lost the next 4

2001: Detroit was up 2-0 against Los Angeles, lost the next 4

2002: Detroit was down 2-0 against Vancouver, won the next 4

2008: Detroit is up 2-0 against Nashville, the series remains to be seen

I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch. None of these series are even remotely close to being over yet.

Weren't we up 2-0 on Calgary last season? Then they won the next two at home and then finished them off in 6.

[eva unit zero 271]

So did the Wings in 2002, or am I missing what the argument was?

No, I am just getting turned around. Carolina in 2006 did lose their first two at home and go on to win the Cup just like the Wings in 2002.

That said, I was simply trying to infer meaning, rather than trying to ascribe who was right about what.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Um, last time I checked it takes 4 games to win a playoff series.

1999: Detroit was up 2-0 against Colorado, lost the next 4

2001: Detroit was up 2-0 against Los Angeles, lost the next 4

2002: Detroit was down 2-0 against Vancouver, won the next 4

2008: Detroit is up 2-0 against Nashville, the series remains to be seen

I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch. None of these series are even remotely close to being over yet.

OK but it is not just the fact that the Duckies are down 2-0 it's the way that they have played and the fact that they played like this on their home ice.

1999: Detroit was up 2-0 against Colorado, lost the next 4 1 blow out, 1 OT loss for home team

2001: Detroit was up 2-0 against Los Angeles, lost the next 4 Home team (Detroit) won the first 2

2002: Detroit was down 2-0 against Vancouver, won the next 4 1 goal game and 1 OT loss for home team

2008: Detroit is up 2-0 against Nashville, the series remains to be seen TBD

I'm looking for somebody to tell me when in the past the home team was blown out (2 or more goal win not counting empty netters) both times in the first 2 games and came back to win the series. I can't find where it ever happened.

[Guest MrSandMan]

Yes they did BUT 1 of the 2 was an OT loss. They got blown out 6-1 in the first game and lost in OT in the second. And the Wings being down to Vancouver 2-0 in 2002 also was different because that was a 1 goal loss followed by an OT loss.

The Duckies have lost 4-0 and 5-2. It's not just that they lost, it's that they got killed both games.

The fact that they are the defending champs means nothing. It means that they won last year. That has no bearing on this year. They don't have the same players and they are not playing Vancouver and Minnesota.

Dallas' playoff woes the last few years also doesn't mean anything. I could mean that they underachieve and it could mean that they are hungrier.

If we were down 2-0 to Nashville after getting beat 4-0 and 5-2 it would pretty much be over as much as we wouldn't want to admit it.

We will see where the Duckies are next week. I am betting that they will be playing golf.

LMFAO!!!!! Hell, read in the 1st GDT of the post-season against the Predators, and you'll see a bunch of Wing Fans throwing in the towl and crying the season is over because the Predators tied the game 1-1 in the 2nd period of game 1 best out of 7.... Now that is something funny!

....imagine if we lost game 1 (4-0) and game 2 (5-2), Wing fans would be blowing up the city and moving to India. LMAO!

Edited April 13, 2008 by MrSandMan

[evil204 4]

Final Dallas 4-2. If it happens this way, Aneheim is 1 loss away from elimination in 3 straight games. I DON't want a game 7 because anything can happen. A sweep would be sweet but we need for Aneheim to beat the hell out of Dallas physically so that they are a broken team by the time we play them.

And where's the satisfaction in beating a tired, battered team? If the Wings are going to win the Cup, they should have to be able to outplay teams that are at the top of their game.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

OK but it is not just the fact that the Duckies are down 2-0 it's the way that they have played and the fact that they played like this on their home ice.

1999: Detroit was up 2-0 against Colorado, lost the next 4 1 blow out, 1 OT loss for home team

2001: Detroit was up 2-0 against Los Angeles, lost the next 4 Home team (Detroit) won the first 2

2002: Detroit was down 2-0 against Vancouver, won the next 4 1 goal game and 1 OT loss for home team

2008: Detroit is up 2-0 against Nashville, the series remains to be seen TBD

I'm looking for somebody to tell me when in the past the home team was blown out (2 or more goal win not counting empty netters) both times in the first 2 games and came back to win the series. I can't find where it ever happened.

So?

Detroit completely schooled Colorado ON THE ROAD the first two games in 1999 and Los Angeles in 2001 before losing the next 4 games in a row. We can throw all the scenarios on how good/bad a team played until all the beer in Milwakuee is consumed.

It doesn't change the fact that a series isn't over until somebody wins 4 games and that things can go south for a team pretty quick.

So I wouldn't be proclaiming to the world that you were right rubbing it in people's faces and yelling like you want a cookie just yet until the series is over.

[jim3033 1]

Dallas is a tough team. I think it would be difficult for Anaheim to battle back in Dallas. Detroit beat Vancouver after being down 2-0 but they were an 8th seed. I have to say I am surprised and did not think this would happen. I hope the Wings play Colorado in the 2nd round! Oh please, oh please.

Dear Duck Guy, sorry for making fun of your team teaching snoop dog how to ice skate.

[BlueMonk 102]

One big difference between Detroit bouncing back from down 2-0 to the Canucks in 2002 and this situation with the Ducks and Stars: Vancouver's goaltender was Dan Cloutier, Dallas's is Marty Turco. I don't think that part of the equation can be overstated. The Wings were fortunate in 2002 to face only one goaltender who wasn't below average for a playoff caliber team: Patrick Roy. The other rounds they faced Cloutier, Brent Johnson (lol) and Arturs Irbe. Roy was one of the greats, but that was the only one of the four you could call tough and pass the laugh test.

All that being said, I still give the Ducks a roughly 50/50 chance to win the series. Now if the Stars win game 3, then yeah, it's over.

[Duck Guy 86]

Pretty much however you look at it game 3 is a must win for the ducks and if they win on Tuesday i would expect them to get some more confidence and return the favor and beat them twice in their building. Last night it actually looked like they would beat them but i guess they fell apart and now they are in DANGER MODE so hopefully that will force them to get their s*** together. This series is still up for grabs.

Edited April 13, 2008 by Duck Guy

[Uncle Danny 155]

And where's the satisfaction in beating a tired, battered team? If the Wings are going to win the Cup, they should have to be able to outplay teams that are at the top of their game.

I couldn't agree more. I stated in an earlier thread that I want to face all the top teams en route to the cup so there can be no question about who the best is.

That said, I'm torn on who to root for in this series, honestly. I'd love to see Anaheim get embarrassed in the first round, as I absolutely hate that team. But I'm also not a huge fan of Dallas, and would love the chance to see the Wings deliver some hands on revenge for last year themselves.

I definitely respect the Dallas fans more (Duck Guy excluded ), and their team has a number of classy individuals on it, so I suppose they get the reserved nod.

Either way, I don't think this series is over. I predict a game 3 victory for Anaheim, and from there, who knows? I'm guessing Dallas manages to seal the deal, but I wouldn't be surprised if they suffered another implosion, especially to a team that knows how to (usually) win tight games in the playoffs.

Edited April 13, 2008 by Uncle Danny

[Duck Guy 86]

But seriously if your team was in this position would you start hiller or jiggy in game 3? Would it be the wrong statement to send to jiggy? Or would it be what the team needs? Just a question that originated from ducks forums... i wanna know what u guys think.. i mean sure you can blame the offence (which i prolly would) and the D but to let in 9 goals in 2 games?

Edited April 13, 2008 by Duck Guy

[Third Man In 2,091]

I've said this elsewhere but the Ducks are far from done. They've played terribly for the majority of two games and they can't continue to run up-and-down the ice with the Stars. They need to play into their strengths--goaltending and defence--and try to win games 1-0 and 2-1. That being said, the Stars have recent playoff failures to contend with, and a win or two by Anaheim could make this an entirely different series.