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Look at the scoring breakdown in this series:

Datsyuk 3 goals

Zetterberg 2 goals

Draper 2 goals

Hudler 1 goal

Homer 1 goal

Franzen 1 goal

McCarty 1 goal

Filppula, Cleary, Sammy? Anyone? Bueller?

Pav and Hank are doing all they can.

cleary was also out for how long? lost 15lbs of muscle and such that took him how many years to build up? Yeah they say he has gained most of that weight back but it cant be as muscle. he is out there and trying. I cant fault him for his play. Hopefully he can keep improving and be back to his form this season next season. as for flip and sammy.....they need to get it together!

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Dats has stepped it up like a man on fire who wants to hoist the cup?

The other? Poor passing, can't hit an open net.

What is wrong with Z?

You need to lay off the cronic, since your from washington go root for the caps or something, or better yet the DC United

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Ahhhh, grasshoppers. Look through the mists of the universe. When one's mind is in union with nature it will see the light. In the gentle rolling of time you will see that it all things are as they should be. The master plan unfolds like a flower in the sun. Let the extinct sabertoothed cat think it is in the game and has a chance at advancement. All the more sweet to see the stranglehold of the winged wheel squeeze the breath out of the dinosaur late in the series. Be calm, grashoppers, be calm.

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Hmmm, calling out Zetterberg when he had an assist and basically drove the next on the second goal which allowed Pavel the time, space and opening to get the second goal? You all really are asking for alot now... Hes doing his part, the problem isnt the first line, its basically everyone else (2nd and 3rd lines). We need a goalie who isnt shaken by letting in a goal, and doesnt think one bad goal deserves another.

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Hmmm, calling out Zetterberg when he had an assist and basically drove the next on the second goal which allowed Pavel the time, space and opening to get the second goal? You all really are asking for alot now... Hes doing his part, the problem isnt the first line, its basically everyone else (2nd and 3rd lines). We need a goalie who isnt shaken by letting in a goal, and doesnt think one bad goal deserves another.

DING DING DING! We have a winner! Thank you for expressing what I was feeling. My vernacular was inadequate.

(I know I said I was done with this thread but I lied. So sue me.)

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I disagree. But AWESOME analogy! :clap:

Oh, I am just joking of course. :P I like Hank as much as the next guy. It would be nice to see him take it up a notch in Game 5, though. We need to nip these Preds in the bud, asap.

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DING DING DING! We have a winner! Thank you for expressing what I was feeling. My vernacular was inadequate.

(I know I said I was done with this thread but I lied. So sue me.)

well the guy who posted the topic, who has ovechkin as his avatar, who is from washington, who is rooting for the redwings :rolleyes: wants zetterberg to score everytime he touches the puck. But im sure he cant see what Zetterberg does for datsyuk on his big ol 12 inch black and white tv.

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[sarcasm] Z sucked ass last night especially on that play where the preds had a player W I D E O P E N in the slot and he was backchecking and deflected the puck and the player's stick so they couldn't get a shot off. [/sarcasm]

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well the guy who posted the topic, who has ovechkin as his avatar, who is from washington, who is rooting for the redwings :rolleyes: wants zetterberg to score everytime he touches the puck. But im sure he cant see what Zetterberg does for datsyuk on his big ol 12 inch black and white tv.

Ok but I know Viperar. He's a Red Wings fan first and foremost. There is no question there.

And while I don't exactly agree with him calling out Z, I know what he means. I mean, Z is not playing badly and he plays with all his heart every night, but I'd like to see more out of him. Truth be told, I'd like to see more out of all of the guys, right? Wouldn't we all? It's just out of love for our team that we criticize them...right? :unsure:

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Ok but I know Viperar. He's a Red Wings fan first and foremost. There is no question there.

And while I don't exactly agree with him calling out Z, I know what he means. I mean, Z is not playing badly and he plays with all his heart every night, but I'd like to see more out of him. Truth be told, I'd like to see more out of all of the guys, right? Wouldn't we all? It's just out of love for our team that we criticize them...right? :unsure:

yeah but when your subtitle is "if one of them is retarted" is goes far past criticizm. When half the load is on your shoulder, with the other load being on Datsyuk's you cant expect him to score everytime he touches the puck. Now maybe sammy is mildly retarted but Z is just fine.

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But im sure he cant see what Zetterberg does for datsyuk on his big ol 12 inch black and white tv.

thats exactly what was happening to Dats when he was branded a "disappearing act". Some people think the only way to have an impact and help the team win has to be reflected on the scoresheet. Just not true. I said it in another thread, I don't think Z's 100%, but i don't think it matters. Dudes a leader in the mold of Stevie Y, and he's going to have something to say about this seires before it's over, believe that. People over react after a playoff loss, that's understandable. I'm glad the Wings don't. No Z hasn't been playing his best hockey so far, neither has most of the team, that's a good thing if you ask me, being tied 2-2. I could be wrong but, expect to see the Wings best game OF THE YEAR so far next game, Z included.

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yeah but when your subtitle is "if one of them is retarted" is goes far past criticizm. When half the load is on your shoulder, with the other load being on Datsyuk's you cant expect him to score everytime he touches the puck. Now maybe sammy is mildly retarted but Z is just fine.

Hahaha. Are you serious? Have you ever heard of an attention grabbing title for a thread? Do you actually think that I think that Z is retarded? Take a moment, sit down, and think about how anyone could legit think Z is retarded. If you actually read my post instead of just being lured in by my title, you would see I am just wondering what is up with Z.

Read a little bit before throwing someone under the bus.

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[sarcasm] Z sucked ass last night especially on that play where the preds had a player W I D E O P E N in the slot and he was backchecking and deflected the puck and the player's stick so they couldn't get a shot off. [/sarcasm]

Your constant illogical posts that contribute nothing to these forums are hilarious. Its funny how everyone calls certain players retarded and calls for heads to roll, but when someone mentions certain star players, they can do no wrong.

Thats fantastic that Z has been backchecking and stopped a play. His purpose on this team is to score and make plays. Yes he has two goals, which came in 1 game. Fantastic. I love Z as much as everyone on these boards, but even Henrikrules40 admits that he can step it up a notch.

As for everyone crying about me calling him retarded, get a grip, its a thread title, and if you actually read the two maybe 3 posts I have made in here, I obviously don't think he is retarded. If I did I would sit down and think of myself as such as well. Stop taking everything so seriously and open up your minds a little.

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Ahhh, yes. Trashing arguably the best complete hockey player in the world. I can't say I'm not surprised to see this here.

oh christ....delete this thread...I've hurt people's feelings.

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Viperar,

I was being sarcastic, hence the sarcasm tags.

But:

So if I or someone I care about is retarded, or lets say for arguments sake I am a Special Education teacher (not anymore) does that mean I still can't be upset that you chose to use a derogatory term.

My constant illogical posts, you obviously don't read a lot of my posts.

His purpose on this team is to score goals, AND PLAY DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!

He is not a cherry picker, he is not Jagr, he is a two way center man, you know like Yzerman, Modano, you know guys who have multiple skills on the ice.

His job is to play a very active role on both ends of the ice.

And even you said he was scoring. Did you think Dats was slumping in the game that Z had two goals.

Did you notice that Z had a crucial play on one of Dats goals, he may not have gotten an assist, but if it weren't for the fact that he drove the net, Homer's pass never makes it across the goal mouth to Dats, instead there are 2 defenders trying to stop the pass. But it just so happened that 2 defenders were trying to take Z out of the slot, allowing Homer's pass to go right through to Dats. Even though it looked like the pass was intended for Z from the start.

Oh but you are right unless he scores he is doing nothing.

From now on none of the forwards should even bother playing D, because that is not their job.

Yeah, I am the one with the illogical posts.

When did I say he couldn't step it up a notch, IF THEY WANT TO WIN THEY WILL ALL HAVE TO STEP IT UP!!

However you called him retarded, which means he has an IQ of less than 70. OK well lets pretend you called him hockey IQ retarded, that would mean his hockey IQ is less than 70.

Either way it is false and you look bad for doing it, now you are trying to make others out to be the bad guy because you offended some one, or because we are to PC or whatever other reason makes you feel better.

Stop painting with such a broad stroke and maybe people won't "Misremember" misinterpret your thread titles!

Mr. Clemens is that you?

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oh christ....delete this thread...I've hurt people's feelings.

You don't find it just a tad ridiculous?

I can find a million other things to ***** about how they have been playing before I get to Z's performance.

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oh christ....delete this thread...I've hurt people's feelings.

No one's feelings are hurt but your own, or at least that is how it appears.

You stated your opinion, however others disagreed and they disagreed with your choice or words, now it is other people who are at fault.

I love the INTERNET!!!!!

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Viperar,

I was being sarcastic, hence the sarcasm tags.

But:

So if I or someone I care about is retarded, or lets say for arguments sake I am a Special Education teacher (not anymore) does that mean I still can't be upset that you chose to use a derogatory term.

My constant illogical posts, you obviously don't read a lot of my posts.

His purpose on this team is to score goals, AND PLAY DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!

He is not a cherry picker, he is not Jagr, he is a two way center man, you know like Yzerman, Modano, you know guys who have multiple skills on the ice.

His job is to play a very active role on both ends of the ice.

And even you said he was scoring. Did you think Dats was slumping in the game that Z had two goals.

Did you notice that Z had a crucial play on one of Dats goals, he may not have gotten an assist, but if it weren't for the fact that he drove the net, Homer's pass never makes it across the goal mouth to Dats, instead there are 2 defenders trying to stop the pass. But it just so happened that 2 defenders were trying to take Z out of the slot, allowing Homer's pass to go right through to Dats. Even though it looked like the pass was intended for Z from the start.

Oh but you are right unless he scores he is doing nothing.

From now on none of the forwards should even bother playing D, because that is not their job.

Yeah, I am the one with the illogical posts.

When did I say he couldn't step it up a notch, IF THEY WANT TO WIN THEY WILL ALL HAVE TO STEP IT UP!!

However you called him retarded, which means he has an IQ of less than 70. OK well lets pretend you called him hockey IQ retarded, that would mean his hockey IQ is less than 70.

Either way it is false and you look bad for doing it, now you are trying to make others out to be the bad guy because you offended some one, or because we are to PC or whatever other reason makes you feel better.

Stop painting with such a broad stroke and maybe people won't "Misremember" misinterpret your thread titles!

Mr. Clemens is that you?

Oh right, because calling someone retarded is the worst of things being said on these forums, spare me the hurtfest. I realize your posts were in sarcasm identifiers, it was still ridiculous to post what you did anyway. I am not going to argue most of your points because you are in fact correct. Z does many things admirably and is a great player. I just think that he made a couple of mistakes tonight that is all. Seriously go read my post about how he just needs to step up somewhat. I am not hating Z or actually calling him retarded.

I guess if my thread topic was so hurtful I will refrain next time. I didn't realize a bunch of hockey fans are so soft on the inside.

You don't find it just a tad ridiculous?

I can find a million other things to ***** about how they have been playing before I get to Z's performance.

Yeah so can I buddy, but I don't think its unfair to critique Z for some mistakes he made tonight. I am sure he will rebound and my thread will become a moot point. Either way I stand by my case, he can step it up a little offensively.

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No one's feelings are hurt but your own, or at least that is how it appears.

You stated your opinion, however others disagreed and they disagreed with your choice or words, now it is other people who are at fault.

I love the INTERNET!!!!!

Hahahaha my feelings have barely been hurt. Actually, I can't remember I took anything seriously to heart from an internet forum, call me old fashioned I guess :rolleyes:

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