Avs Remembering 1999

[RedLightGoesOn 81]

they remember 1999, I remember 2002, when we chased the beloved Patty Wah in Game 7.

[tiff_luvs_homer 5]

gee, what do you want us to do?

We're just trying to find the positive in a negative situation.

Right now the avs board is filled with a lot of negativity and I think people are just trying to raise everyone's spirits. I know we're not the same team we were in '99 but some of us just like to focus on the positive. People are just giving up on our team (yes, even some avs fans) but I refuse to do that. I guess that's just part of being a die-hard.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

gee, what do you want us to do?

We're just trying to find the positive in a negative situation.

Right now the avs board is filled with a lot of negativity and I think people are just trying to raise everyone's spirits. I know we're not the same team we were in '99 but some of us just like to focus on the positive. People are just giving up on our team (yes, even some avs fans) but I refuse to do that. I guess that's just part of being a die-hard.

The Avs still have plenty of chances and plenty of time to turn it around even if their 'tending hasn't been that good or they have injuries. That is why it is a best-of-7 series and a team has to win 4 GAMES in the series, not just two.

I just find it comical that many of these same Wings fans on here who often predict doom-and-gloom think that they are untouchable now all of a sudden or that Colorado has absolutely zero chance when we all have experienced them blow series leads in recent history. You'd think many people on here (again the same ones who predict utter chaos and the sky falling when the Wings lose) would at least be aware of it to stop sounding so arrogant and cocky like Colorado is just utterly incapable. I guess not though.

With all that being said, if the Wings are able to split one of these next two games, it'll be hard for the Avs to comeback, though not impossible or improbable, Boston nearly did it in the 1st round when they were almost nowhere to be found after 4 games vs. Montreal

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

1999 was 9 years ago. Different players, different teams. We'll get a split in Colorado and finish it off at the JLA in game 5.

[Shaman 713]

The Avs still have plenty of chances and plenty of time to turn it around even if their 'tending hasn't been that good or they have injuries. That is why it is a best-of-7 series and a team has to win 4 GAMES in the series, not just two.

I just find it comical that many of these same Wings fans on here who often predict doom-and-gloom think that they are untouchable now all of a sudden or that Colorado has absolutely zero chance when we all have experienced them blow series leads in recent history. You'd think many people on here (again the same ones who predict utter chaos and the sky falling when the Wings lose) would at least be aware of it to stop sounding so arrogant and cocky like Colorado is just utterly incapable. I guess not though.

With all that being said, if the Wings are able to split one of these next two games, it'll be hard for the Avs to comeback, though not impossible or improbable, Boston nearly did it in the 1st round when they were almost nowhere to be found after 4 games vs. Montreal

While i agree that we shouldnt be cocky, the point of this post was to say that this isnt 99, and while they did pull off the series upset, those were 2 very different teams, different coaches and very few people still around from that series. I think it would be better for Avs fan to focus on their goalie problem, Injury problem, or the fact that Q is almost as useless as playfair was in Calgary.

[RockyMountainWingGal 108]

gee, what do you want us to do?

We're just trying to find the positive in a negative situation.

Right now the avs board is filled with a lot of negativity and I think people are just trying to raise everyone's spirits. I know we're not the same team we were in '99 but some of us just like to focus on the positive. People are just giving up on our team (yes, even some avs fans) but I refuse to do that. I guess that's just part of being a die-hard.

I know I already got a concede email from an Av's fan. I told her to wait 'til after game 3 and see what happens....yeah it looked bad but as a Wings fans, I'm still always nervous. And...I'll be at game 4.

[Izzy24 44]

gee, what do you want us to do?

We're just trying to find the positive in a negative situation.

Right now the avs board is filled with a lot of negativity and I think people are just trying to raise everyone's spirits. I know we're not the same team we were in '99 but some of us just like to focus on the positive. People are just giving up on our team (yes, even some avs fans) but I refuse to do that. I guess that's just part of being a die-hard.

Give up.

[Wings_Fan_in_KC 3]

While i agree that we shouldnt be cocky, the point of this post was to say that this isnt 99, and while they did pull off the series upset, those were 2 very different teams, different coaches and very few people still around from that series. I think it would be better for Avs fan to focus on their goalie problem, Injury problem, or the fact that Q is almost as useless as Playfair was in Calgary.

I agree, I agree, I agree! It's almost a DECADE later so they can dream all they want to. Joesay Tay-O-Dore's done......whether it's the flue, an injury or whatever....his confidence is crushed. You are right about Q.....he was an idiot in "St. Loser" (basically a goon squad coach) and he's a bigger idiot in Colorado. Why on earth would he insist on starting Tay-O-Dore in Game 3? Hell, I don't mind.....I WANT him to at this point. Go Quennville........ride that dying horse right into it's grave.

Prediction is split in Colorado and finish it off in G5.......G6 if the Craps somehow manage to win G5 at the Joe.

[katiephd 0]

I know I already got a concede email from an Av's fan. I told her to wait 'til after game 3 and see what happens....yeah it looked bad but as a Wings fans, I'm still always nervous. And...I'll be at game 4.

Me too, on both counts--a concession e-mail and Game 4.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

I agree, I agree, I agree! It's almost a DECADE later so they can dream all they want to. Joesay Tay-O-Dore's done......whether it's the flue, an injury or whatever....his confidence is crushed. You are right about Q.....he was an idiot in "St. Loser" (basically a goon squad coach) and he's a bigger idiot in Colorado. Why on earth would he insist on starting Tay-O-Dore in Game 3? Hell, I don't mind.....I WANT him to at this point. Go Quennville........ride that dying horse right into it's grave.

And you know this how? You've personally interviewed Theodore or Quenville? Stalked the Avalanche locker room in Denver? While I definitely want the same thing right now, I will not be surprised one bit either if the Avs and Theodore turn it around. Every game is different and the Wings have blown leads before, it there is a realisitc chance of it still happening this series. It doesn't matter if it is 2008 or 1999 or 1776, the possibility still remains. Be careful of getting ahead of ourselves here.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Give up.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

The Avs still have plenty of chances and plenty of time to turn it around even if their 'tending hasn't been that good or they have injuries. That is why it is a best-of-7 series and a team has to win 4 GAMES in the series, not just two.

I just find it comical that many of these same Wings fans on here who often predict doom-and-gloom think that they are untouchable now all of a sudden or that Colorado has absolutely zero chance when we all have experienced them blow series leads in recent history. You'd think many people on here (again the same ones who predict utter chaos and the sky falling when the Wings lose) would at least be aware of it to stop sounding so arrogant and cocky like Colorado is just utterly incapable. I guess not though.

With all that being said, if the Wings are able to split one of these next two games, it'll be hard for the Avs to comeback, though not impossible or improbable, Boston nearly did it in the 1st round when they were almost nowhere to be found after 4 games vs. Montreal

I know you're referring to me, but when it comes to our chances against the divealanche and Stars, I've always been confident that we could roll over those teams.

You can't point to one instance where I've been pessimistic about us beating the dives.

I can't rememember the last time I enjoyed a series like I'm enjoying this one, knowing what the prospect is of us sweeping their team. It's exhilaratiing!

[Izzy24 44]

I can't rememember the last time I enjoyed a series like I'm enjoying this one, knowing what the prospect is of us sweeping their team. It's exhilaratiing!

:beerbuddy:

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Give up.

LMAO!

GMR I wasn't referring to you specifically, but you cannot tell me with a straight face that some people didn't think Colorado's forwards overall had (or have) better depth than Detroit's. Now they change their tune and the Avs are totally incapable of winning at all?

Perhaps this bothers me some how, perhaps it's not all cockiness or arrogance but I just don't want people to act so shocked that losing this series or the Avs even tying up this series is still somewhat of a realistic possibility.

Obviously I do not wish for this for any of this to happen and the odds right now are in favor of the Wings, but the series isn't a slam dunk guarantee still.

[tiff_luvs_homer 5]

I know I already got a concede email from an Av's fan. I told her to wait 'til after game 3 and see what happens....yeah it looked bad but as a Wings fans, I'm still always nervous. And...I'll be at game 4.

We're going to game 4 also! where are you sitting? we'll be in 332... maybe we'll have to meet up and introduce ourselves!

Edited April 30, 2008 by tiff_luvs_homer

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

LMAO!

GMR I wasn't referring to you specifically, but you cannot tell me with a straight face that some people didn't think Colorado's forwards overall had (or have) better depth than Detroit's. Now they change their tune and the Avs are totally incapable of winning at all?

Perhaps this bothers me some how, perhaps it's not all cockiness or arrogance but I just don't want people to act so shocked that losing this series or the Avs even tying up this series is still somewhat of a realistic possibility.

Obviously I do not wish for this for any of this to happen and the odds right now are in favor of the Wings, but the series isn't a slam dunk guarantee still.

Actually, I was one of those people talking about the strength of their forwards, but I still posted before the series began that our defense and system is way better than theirs, which would result in a sweep for the Wings.

Also, I like the fact that Quenneville is on the other end of that bench. It gives me a serene peace of mind knowing that he's our *****.

And yeah, I would be shocked if they tied the series up against us. We should have learned from our mistakes in the past to prevent that from happening. Hell, if Franzen didn't score in OT against Nashville, the Wings might be fishing right now. They can't put themselves into a similar situation again.

[Wings_Fan_in_KC 3]

And you know this how? You've personally interviewed Theodore or Quenville? Stalked the Avalanche locker room in Denver? While I definitely want the same thing right now, I will not be surprised one bit either if the Avs and Theodore turn it around. Every game is different and the Wings have blown leads before, it there is a realisitc chance of it still happening this series. It doesn't matter if it is 2008 or 1999 or 1776, the possibility still remains. Be careful of getting ahead of ourselves here.

Man, you're quite hostile to people who are on the same side as yours. I'd hate to see how you respond to someone who's an opposing fan. I'll be the first one to say that I figured the series would go to 6 games and it still may. No one is saying the "S" word, at least I'M not if that's what you are implying.

So you are saying that the stonewall Theodore who let in only 12 goals total against MIN in 6 games and has now let in 12 goals against the Wings in just 3 games is not suffering from a little bit of a confidence issue? I beg to differ......the Wings are in his head. Ah, whatever....you have your opinion and I have mine. Mine is formed from watching the Red Wings play and following the NHL for almost 33 years now - started in 1975 when I was 10 years old.

Have a good one and GO WINGS!!

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

1999?

They gotta go back to 92 and hope Forsberg starts playing like Brett Hull to even have a hope in this series.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Man, you're quite hostile to people who are on the same side as yours. I'd hate to see how you respond to someone who's an opposing fan. I'll be the first one to say that I figured the series would go to 6 games and it still may. No one is saying the "S" word, at least I'M not if that's what you are implying.

So you are saying that the stonewall Theodore who let in only 12 goals total against MIN in 6 games and has now let in 12 goals against the Wings in just 3 games is not suffering from a little bit of a confidence issue? I beg to differ......the Wings are in his head. Ah, whatever....you have your opinion and I have mine. Mine is formed from watching the Red Wings play and following the NHL for almost 33 years now - started in 1975 when I was 10 years old.

Have a good one and GO WINGS!!

Just basically trying to warn people not to get too ahead of themselves, which many have been doing on here I think. I think it's pretty safe though to start looking forward after this evening.

While Theodore didn't play his best in the first 2 games, if he wasn't confident in himself, and Joel Q wasn't confident in him, he wouldn't have been playing game 3. Was it the correct coaching move? Entirely subjective, honestly I thought he played a fairly decent game, at least much better than the first 2.

Another poster bought this point up though. Budaj didn't really face the Wings when they were humming or in full throttle at the beginning of the games, not having to deal with what Theodore did. For the most part, the Wings came out full throttle again and Theodore did better. Would you have put a guy in to start with almost no playoff experience whatsoever other than "mop-up" duty, or a guy with some limited experience in getting it done.

Honestly I'm 50-50 on Quenville's decision on who started. On the one hand, I was glad b/c the Wings did good against him the first 2 games, but think about it, if Quenville starts Budaj, you put in an unproven goaltender with no playoff experience and if Theodore's confidence was going down south, benching him probably would have put his confidence completely down the tubes I am assuming. If we're thinking like that, I can't really blame him for starting Theodore.

And I've been watching hockey since the mid-90s when I was a teenager. Does that make me less "educated" or "knowledgable" about the sport then, since I have the handicap of being born later?

Edited April 30, 2008 by SouthernWingsFan

[T.Low 1,011]

Well they have nothing else to look for. Can't blame them for trying ANYTHING to get their team playing better. Seriously this Avs team has some total mental block when it comes to the Wings. They are hoping that 1) Theo plays about 1000x better, 2) Floppa comes back and can actually make a huge impact, and most importantly 3) the Wings let off the pedal a bit and allow the Avs back into the series.

As long as Babs keeps this team focused and we don't have any lapses like vs. the Preds the Wings will be fine.

Av fan just needs to see this short 45 second clip.

[Wings_Fan_in_KC 3]

Just basically trying to warn people not to get too ahead of themselves, which many have been doing on here I think. I think it's pretty safe though to start looking forward after this evening.

While Theodore didn't play his best in the first 2 games, if he wasn't confident in himself, and Joel Q wasn't confident in him, he wouldn't have been playing game 3. Was it the correct coaching move? Entirely subjective, honestly I thought he played a fairly decent game, at least much better than the first 2.

Another poster bought this point up though. Budaj didn't really face the Wings when they were humming or in full throttle at the beginning of the games, not having to deal with what Theodore did. For the most part, the Wings came out full throttle again and Theodore did better. Would you have put a guy in to start with almost no playoff experience whatsoever other than "mop-up" duty, or a guy with some limited experience in getting it done.

Honestly I'm 50-50 on Quenville's decision on who started. On the one hand, I was glad b/c the Wings did good against him the first 2 games, but think about it, if Quenville starts Budaj, you put in an unproven goaltender with no playoff experience and if Theodore's confidence was going down south, benching him probably would have put his confidence completely down the tubes I am assuming. If we're thinking like that, I can't really blame him for starting Theodore.

And I've been watching hockey since the mid-90s when I was a teenager. Does that make me less "educated" or "knowledgable" about the sport then, since I have the handicap of being born later?

No, dude, we're on the same page. I just wanted to let you know I'm not some bandwagon 14 year old posting a bunch of "rah rah" stuff..........been around the block a few times!

GAME 4: Someone else posted this in here somewhere ---- SHOW NO MERCY - LEAVE NO DOUBT.

GO WINGS!

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Cool, sorry to sound a little conforntational in my original post to you and you getting the brunt of it, just the fickleness of people, many of them being the sky is falling and utter chaos types going to thinking the Wings are gods all of a sudden just humors, and annoys to a certain extent, me when you know whenever the time comes when the Wings face adversity, we are going to go back to doom-and-gloom in here. But I'll shush and put a sock in it on my end.

[Jericho613 74]

Too man injuries to their top guys. Its not getting ahead of ourselves to believe that the Red Wings are going to the Western Conference finals. No team can survive in the playoffs with that many injuries and shaky goaltending.