We need to get inside Turco's Head

[Graybeard 0]

While he has been a huge part of our success, you can not take away the fact that we have been scoring almost at will.

In 6 games against Anaheim we scored 20 goals. Thats 3.33 goals a game against arguably one of the best blue lines ever.

In 6 games against San Jose we scored 15 goals. Thats 2.5 goals a game against perhaps the Vezina winner.

Yes, Marty is playing off the charts this playoff year, but look at what he did last year. Even better in some regards. The difference between this years team and last years team is that we are getting goals when we need them. Last year we couldnt score that go ahead goal, much less the nail in the coffin 3 goal lead type scoring. This year we can and have been. I just hope we can keep it up. You guys are different team than we've been playing.

A few points:

Seven periods to score 2 goals is a good goalie contest, but not exactly scoring at will.

If you think you've faced the best blue line in hockey you are about to have a very rude awakening.

2.5 goals against the Wings won't win the game and our defense is much better than what you've played against so far. Good luck getting that many with the 20 or fewer shots you'll be getting per game.

Off the charts? He's been playing pretty damn good I'll grant you that. Maybe with just a little more work he'll be able to get his save % as high as Ozzie's.

Turco hasn't had to deal with anything like the screening ability of Franzen and Homer so far in the playoffs. Those stops aren't going to be so easy when the first he sees of them is the redirect 2 feet in front of him. Dats has Turco's number as well. I can't wait for some more highlight reels.

I love the fact that the Wings get to play a talented skill team like the Stars in the WCF. I really hope their offense can step it up a little and make some exciting games. If Dallas does find a way to pull off a miracle, at least they're a team I'll be happy to cheer for in the finals.

[DallasStars 0]

A few points:

Seven periods to score 2 goals is a good goalie contest, but not exactly scoring at will.

If you think you've faced the best blue line in hockey you are about to have a very rude awakening.

2.5 goals against the Wings won't win the game and our defense is much better than what you've played against so far. Good luck getting that many with the 20 or fewer shots you'll be getting per game.

Off the charts? He's been playing pretty damn good I'll grant you that. Maybe with just a little more work he'll be able to get his save % as high as Ozzie's.

Turco hasn't had to deal with anything like the screening ability of Franzen and Homer so far in the playoffs. Those stops aren't going to be so easy when the first he sees of them is the redirect 2 feet in front of him. Dats has Turco's number as well. I can't wait for some more highlight reels.

I love the fact that the Wings get to play a talented skill team like the Stars in the WCF. I really hope their offense can step it up a little and make some exciting games. If Dallas does find a way to pull off a miracle, at least they're a team I'll be happy to cheer for in the finals.

I could bring all sorts of numbers as to why I think my team is better, but I'll save my time.

You have a good team. I have a good team. It's gonna be great.

Edited May 7, 2008 by DallasStars

[puckloo39 5,686]

I wish fans could enjoy and respect the contributions of the players and the teams, without using "facts" to diminish the contributions of each. It's not possible, I guess.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I wish fans could enjoy and respect the contributions of the players and the teams, without using "facts" to diminish the contributions of each. It's not possible, I guess.

If you're referring to my comment, I stand by it. I respect and appreciate the contributions Dom has made for the Wings, but I'm not going to applaud him for his play during this season's playoffs. He was mediocre. Not terrible, not spectacular.

Edited May 7, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25

[TheCaptain19 49]

im not taking turco for granted. in fact the idea that he has something to prove is something to think about.

[puckloo39 5,686]

I know you're referring to my comment, and I stand by it. I respect and appreciate the contributions Dom has made for the Wings, but I'm not going to applaud him for his play during this season's playoffs. He was mediocre. Not terrible, not spectacular.

Dom wasn't mediocre in games 1 and 2 in round 1, but I understand that's forgotten now.

Whatever it takes to win, that's what the Wings need to do.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Dom wasn't mediocre in games 1 and 2 in round 1, but I understand that's forgotten now.

Whatever it takes to win, that's what the Wings need to do.

I agree that Dom wasn't mediocre in Games 1 & 2, but he was bad in Games 3 & 4. Balance it off and you've got the very definition of mediocre.

[Seraph 240]

A few points:

Seven periods to score 2 goals is a good goalie contest, but not exactly scoring at will.

If you think you've faced the best blue line in hockey you are about to have a very rude awakening.

2.5 goals against the Wings won't win the game and our defense is much better than what you've played against so far. Good luck getting that many with the 20 or fewer shots you'll be getting per game.

Off the charts? He's been playing pretty damn good I'll grant you that. Maybe with just a little more work he'll be able to get his save % as high as Ozzie's.

Turco hasn't had to deal with anything like the screening ability of Franzen and Homer so far in the playoffs. Those stops aren't going to be so easy when the first he sees of them is the redirect 2 feet in front of him. Dats has Turco's number as well. I can't wait for some more highlight reels.

I love the fact that the Wings get to play a talented skill team like the Stars in the WCF. I really hope their offense can step it up a little and make some exciting games. If Dallas does find a way to pull off a miracle, at least they're a team I'll be happy to cheer for in the finals.

Haha, you're a jerk, but I love it. Good post.

I haven't heard much goalie taunting this year. We got the two syllabled goalie name in this series. Let's get on it. I'm gonna start it up in game 2.

[Sergei Fedorov91 24]

I used to say the key to a dallas detroit game is that Turco is Datsyuk's *****. However they seem to be getting rid of a lot of monkeys in this playoff run.

[RedLightGoesOn 81]

Turco hasnt gone up against an offense that is "hitting on all cylinders". Turco is a big reason why Dallas is doing so well and if we take him out of the equation it gives the Stars a harder time to win. While the Stars roster does not have Turcos name on it alone, we have to solve him if we want to win this series.

[puckloo39 5,686]

I agree that Dom wasn't mediocre in Games 1 & 2, but he was bad in Games 3 & 4. Balance it off and you've got the very definition of mediocre.

I hear hockey is a team game. But whatever.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I hear hockey is a team game. But whatever.

So its a team game when Dom loses, but its his individual effort when the Wings win it?

[Guest drwings1]

I hear hockey is a team game. But whatever.

loo, i love your posts, your so very knowledgable about hockey

[puckloo39 5,686]

So its a team game when Dom loses, but its his individual effort when the Wings win it?

no, that's not right, although it looks as if he was the sole reason for the losses around here sometimes. The team played badly in several of the games in Round 1, not just Dom. But they seem to have corrected most of the glaring issues now -- odd man rushes and turnovers, deflected goals, etc. Things of the past, and I hope they stay that way.

Edited May 7, 2008 by puckloo39

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

no, that's not right, although it looks that way around here sometimes. The team played badly in several of the games in Round 1, not just Dom. But they seem to have corrected most of the glaring issues now -- odd man rushes and turnovers, deflected goals, etc. Things of the past, and I hope they stay that way.

While every site has their short-sighted fans, the majority are correct in saying that Dom didn't play up to snuff in round 1. A 0.888 SV% and a 2.91 GAA isn't playoff calibre goaltending. We all know Dom wasn't the only one to blame for Games 3 & 4 of the Nashville series, but he most certainly was one of them.

[puckloo39 5,686]

While every site has their short-sighted fans, the majority are correct in saying that Dom didn't play up to snuff in round 1. A 0.888 SV% and a 2.91 GAA isn't playoff calibre goaltending. We all know Dom wasn't the only one to blame for Games 3 & 4 of the Nashville series, but he most certainly was one of them.

the Red Wings seem to have found the proper antidote for what ailed them, so it's all good now.

[Yemack 1]

I love goalie threads. Can't get enough of em!

[puckloo39 5,686]

I love goalie threads. Can't get enough of em!

back to the topic, let's all get out our Turco voodoo dolls....

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

I could bring all sorts of numbers as to why I think my team is better, but I'll save my time.

You have a good team. I have a good team. It's gonna be great.

Now you'll leave me wondering as to what they are, since I can't think of anything.

We've owned your team in recent memory, and will do it again in this series. No one predicted your team to make it this far, so if they don't win another game, they will already have exceeded anyone's expectations. We, on the other hand, have bigger fish to fry. Or should I say, a bigger bird to fry (penguin).

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

I don't care if Turco has gotten a bad Detroit record at JLA. These teams didn't make the WC Finals by mistake. Both teams are more than capable of going to the SC Finals, regardless of past "hexes" against other teams.

Throw the stats and any past blunders against a certain team out the window, they mean very little. Every game is different.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

I love goalie threads. Can't get enough of em!

I can.

[Kp-Wings 3]

But anyone who is going to games one and two really need to get things buzzing at the Joe. I don't care how many time I hear, "TTTTTUUUURRRRRCCCCCOOOOOO" but we need to rattle his cage and take advantage of his temperment. I saw a few times where he got rattled during the San Jose series... and guess what, SJ won those games.

Is it Thursday yet?

Personally, I want to see Dats do this again...

Yeah... that will shut them up...

But didn't you here? Goaltending chants aren't classy!!!1

...

I agree with you. I have plans to go to at least one game during this series (eyeing Game 2, I have the day off, and it's Saturday!), and I'm going to chant his name all game long. In fact, I think I'll throw in some "You Suck's!" in afterwards. And, if any sissy fans on this forum have a problem with it because it's not "classy", then I'll give you the proper suggestion now: start watching golf.

I swear, when I seen that thread during the Nashville series about people bitching about the fans chanting "Ellis, You Suck!", and bringing the whole "classy" debate into it, that just about made me throw up. I'm not saying we should throw beer and trash at the other team, but what's so bad about a chant? I really hope this fan base hasn't gone as soft as some seem to indicate to me. I'll get a goalie chant going (if I go, decision is still up in the air), and I'd certainly hope people would follow along (and not instead chose to sit on their hands, and throw the classy speech at me). Hockey games should be fun and loud; not filled with a bunch of sissy ass tea drinkers, watching the game through their monocles, and giving a two-finger clap any time something happens. That's what sports like golf and cricket are for.

Ok, that's enough ranting. Hopefully I've made my point.

Edited May 8, 2008 by Kp-Wings

[RockyMountainWingGal 108]

So I guess we got here by beating a mediocre Anaheim team, and just another Vezina finalist(probably the winner). Just like you guys got here by struggling with an over-achieving 8th seed about as deep as a spoon, and beating an injury devastated team.

I guess a WCF is just an WCF.

Stars took the tough road for sure - one that probably should have avoided in the first place - but no matter, got the job done.

The Wings earned their draw - and for once I can say we got a bit "lucky" - if that's possible. Hey we got the Flames-Sharks-Ducks draw last year - and it didn't work out too well in the end. For once we didn't have to play an upstart team in the first round - and got a favorable match-up in the second. And the Red Wings deserved that for earning the 1-seed.

They will be tested much more this round for sure - that's why it's the WCF! I think Dallas will be tested much more than the previous rounds also - works both ways!

Oh and btw, we weren't such slackers scoring goals ourselves (Theodore if you recall was much touted after the first round - sick my a$$ - he got his a$$ kicked).

[interminded 1]

Turco Schmurco.

(I lack the ability of an intelligent comment early in the morning... sorry)

[hockeyfreak_09 0]

Yeah Turco can be rattled somewhat easily. The Wings real challenge will be to win in Dallas. I think if we can take one game in Dallas we will be in good shape.

My unlce knows Turco and I met him a couple of years ago. I got a picture of him and he signed it. He's a pretty cool guy. if the Wings do lose then I hope Dallas wins the Cup so I can go up to Sault Ste Marie and see the cup.