Just once, I would like to hear....

[sjradio 0]

Excuse me if this sounds like a rant but here goes.....

Just once.

After watching the FSN southwest post game show, and now watching NHL Network

The only thing I am hearing is....

"Dallas didn't play well"

"Dallas spent too much time watching them"

"Dallas got a bad call against them"

"Dallas didn't get the calls"

Just once I would love to hear all of the ******* "Experts" speak the goddamn truth

Detroit was the best team in the NHL for a reason, they outplayed Dallas, they controlled the play. They earned the win tonight.

It wasn't because we got the calls. It was because (and here is the important point), WE ARE THE BETTER ******* TEAM

It pisses me off that after every ******* win, the focus it on something else.

Nashville series. Dan Ellis this, Dan Ellis that, Oh and Nashville has some major players injured.

Colorado. Theodore was sick, Forsberg was out, Wolski was out, Smyth was out, Stasny may be on life support, Sakic is in an old folks home. Quinville was senile.

now in only 1 game, I'm already hearing the piles of excuses. (and my responses to each)

"Dallas was tired after the 4 OT game"

Um HELLO... They've had 3+ days to rest (almost 4), Monday all day, Tuesday all day, Wednesday, all day, most of Thursday. Why the hell are they tired???

"Holmstrom's goal shouldn't have counted."

I have the game Tivo'd and I've been looking at the replays during the game and on NHL network. Homer WAS in the paint.... but, AT NO TIME WAS HE TOUCHING TURCO.... again to repeat. HOLMSTROM MADE NO CONTACT WITH TURCO.. Every angle I've seen proves that. They morons on NHL network are saying that "Turco needs to sell it more," Excuse me, isn't that diving and unsportsmanlike conduct?

"The roughing call shouldn't have been called in that situation to put us down 5 on 3"

Didn't Fistrick throw a punch??? is that not what the roughing call is???

I get so tired of this crap every ******* year and how nobody gives credit to the Wings.

Top seed... President's trophy winner. 2 Selke nominees, 1 to be Norris winner, top goaltending tandem in the league. 2 cups for Osgood, 1 for Hasek.

Rant over

[#19=Legend 29]

Yea. Ive also noticed this thru the playoff. they just dont want to give credit where credit is due.

[Shockwave180 0]

Amen to all of that. But whatever. As I've said all season, the Wings will forceably earn the respect they deserve if they go on to lift the Cup. And if they don't, then I guess they didn't really deserve it all along. Just keep winning.

[HD30 6]

What also disturbs me is all the excuses the media comes out with to justify the loss of the other team, but if the Red Wings don't win the cup every freaking year they don't stop talking about what a let down it was and how they should had won it all.

[This Is Bida 0]

I absolutely agree with everything you said...

I really noticed it in the first series against Nashville. Hell, I even sent a short letter to Ross McKeon (of Yahoo! NHL) just to see if it would get any reaction. Pretty sure I mentioned something on here too. Funny thing is, I KNEW the media would be saying how Dallas got horrible calls against them, Holmers goal shouldn't have counted, etc. before the game was even over.

Honestly though, I could care less. Let the doubters doubt and the haters hate.

All I truely care about is the Wings hoisting the Stanley Cup, cause at that point in time, there's not enough excuses in the world to prove that Detroit shouldn't be holding the Cup above their heads. And honestly, thats ALL it boils down to. If Detroit can hoist the Cup, every media "expert and analyst" will eat CROW and have to say how much they "deserved" to be the Cup Champions!

[CapnSmitty 39]

One of the best was from tonight on Flips goal

"Enzo" as the "D-Bag Commander" McGuire calls him says nothing about the fact that Flip broke in, and made a nice shot, but no, says ohh that Shot was a tough save for Turco....WTF A) He didnt make the save, and B) Stop making it sound like we got lucky with the shot!

[puckbags 863]

I think it just boils down to pure jealousy, plain and simple!!

[Vincanni 1]

I've always thought it best for our opponent's to blame excuses rather than address the actual problems. Though it is disheartening to see such media outlets continually disrespect us, it seems for how routinely dominant we've been there's been no comparable sports team that receives less credit for their accolades.

There are the few who give us props but the utter polarity in how we're perceived seems to suggest obvious bias. Hopefully if things keep up as they have been they'll run out of excuses sometimes after or 16th victory (knock on wood,) but until then it seems these so-called experts are just waiting for us to fail so they can all say, "I told you so." After all it seems the popular "expert" thing to do, is to pick against the conspicuous favorite and try to find diamonds in the rough. Since we've been that number one I feel they're attempting to do just that, though making excuses to support their decision is just asinine.

[b.shanafan14 733]

E.J. Hradek seems to be the only one in the media that wants to give the Wings any credit. Problem is he is always playing second fiddle to Barry Melrose, who's philosophy is "I'll take whoever the Wings are playing to sweep" (nice Dean Martin suit in the recent preview btw, he is slowly thinking he is Don Cherry). I think that everyone knows that the Wings are being purposely avoided as the pick to win and then the experts feel its better to make excuses why the team they picked didn't win instead of point out the obvious reasons why Detroit did.

I was listening to NHL Live XM on the new NHL Network feature on NHL.com between rounds 1 and 2 waiting for Lidstrom to be interviewed and a caller asked why the Wings were always snubbed when the so-called-experts picked, and Hradek explained that he had picked the Wings for the obvious reasons, whereas other analysts like Melrose, etc. would rather make what they see as the "smart guy" pick, in other words not picking the favorite and citing intangibles or glimmers of brilliance as reasons.

I, too, am sick of always hearing about how vulnerable the Wings are and how they seem to just be lucky the other team never shows up. At what point when a team is constantly on the better end of shots on goal and shots IN goal do you finally take a point against your original predicted winner and give credit where credit is due?

Oh well, I like the Wings better underappreciated than favored any day. The first game of the series went exactly how I have predicted. The Stars are a great team and beat two tough opponents, just like the Wings did last year. That said, this match up doesn't work for the Stars and I don't think it ever will, unless the series proves otherwise. The Dallas Stars and the Detroit Red Wings plays a similiar fast paced style, the only difference is that the Wings are far better at it, and god knows I love Marty Turco, but I don't see him breaking his curse with the Wings enough to pull this series out. I realize its only been one game, and I don't mean to get ahead of myself, but I'm hoping/foreseeing things going similiar for the Wings-Stars throughout this series, at least at the Joe

[dr_lobster 0]

It's kind of a weird situation in hockey for us, I think. In baseball, most days...if the Yankees or Red Sox drop one to the Devil Rays or Pirates, etc. -- the headlines are always "New York/Boston loses in 7-2 game," not that the team they were playing against did well. For sports writers, that's where the bigger story lies, I guess.

[Wing Fanatic 3]

I agree that this no respect crap is getting old. However, let's look at the circumstances. These "professional" analysts are nothing but glorified tennis commentators who would not know their ASS from a hole in the ground! I will get my hockey highlights from Mickey Redmond when he is on the Drew and Mike show on WRIF 101.1 At least he is fair and knows hockey

[mannysBETTER3434 1]

Oh well, I like the Wings better underappreciated than favored any day.

Ding, Ding, Ding! My thoughts exactly!

[clayjoh 3]

Excuse me if this sounds like a rant but here goes.....

Just once.

After watching the FSN southwest post game show, and now watching NHL Network

The only thing I am hearing is....

"Dallas didn't play well"

"Dallas spent too much time watching them"

"Dallas got a bad call against them"

"Dallas didn't get the calls"

Just once I would love to hear all of the ******* "Experts" speak the goddamn truth

Detroit was the best team in the NHL for a reason, they outplayed Dallas, they controlled the play. They earned the win tonight.

It wasn't because we got the calls. It was because (and here is the important point), WE ARE THE BETTER ******* TEAM

It pisses me off that after every ******* win, the focus it on something else.

Nashville series. Dan Ellis this, Dan Ellis that, Oh and Nashville has some major players injured.

Colorado. Theodore was sick, Forsberg was out, Wolski was out, Smyth was out, Stasny may be on life support, Sakic is in an old folks home. Quinville was senile.

now in only 1 game, I'm already hearing the piles of excuses. (and my responses to each)

"Dallas was tired after the 4 OT game"

Um HELLO... They've had 3+ days to rest (almost 4), Monday all day, Tuesday all day, Wednesday, all day, most of Thursday. Why the hell are they tired???

"Holmstrom's goal shouldn't have counted."

I have the game Tivo'd and I've been looking at the replays during the game and on NHL network. Homer WAS in the paint.... but, AT NO TIME WAS HE TOUCHING TURCO.... again to repeat. HOLMSTROM MADE NO CONTACT WITH TURCO.. Every angle I've seen proves that. They morons on NHL network are saying that "Turco needs to sell it more," Excuse me, isn't that diving and unsportsmanlike conduct?

"The roughing call shouldn't have been called in that situation to put us down 5 on 3"

Didn't Fistrick throw a punch??? is that not what the roughing call is???

I get so tired of this crap every ******* year and how nobody gives credit to the Wings.

Top seed... President's trophy winner. 2 Selke nominees, 1 to be Norris winner, top goaltending tandem in the league. 2 cups for Osgood, 1 for Hasek.

Rant over

Yes I'm tiring of all the negativity from the so called experts ,and know it all fans of these other plumber teams , but I say we just keep doing what we're doing and in approximately 3 weeks we'll have them all eating our s--t my 25 cents worth too !!

Good post sjradio !!

[Jasper84 333]

I don't know if they get the same announcers as we do in Dallas, but Dallas fans keep trying to say that they are sick of announcers giving the Wing's so much credit, and that they overrate Detroit. But I agree with the posts above, all I hear is negative comments towards the wings, no credit at all, and it is getting quite annoying.

[sjradio 0]

and the thing is,

wait until the next round where we will probably be playing against Pittsburgh.

You can only imagine how much they are going to be oozing over Crosby, Malkin, and Fluerry

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Good rant, and I agree completely. But all the Wings need to do to shut the talking heads... Just Win Baby. Once we do that, we'll put up with the Crosby and Malkin talk, beat those guys in 5 (Because come on, our offence against there defence is like beating on a handicap person). Then, no one can discredit us. Too soft, small, lots of euros, bad goaltending, blah blah blah. It'll all be down the toilet.

[sjradio 0]

As I sit in the studio here playing Genesis' That's All. I feel like making new dartboards with the heads of Barry Melrose Brian Engblom, and I was go to try to do Pierre Maguire but I didn't want to break the printer. I'll need it in a few hours.

[WingsForever 2]

my favorite is how Threeorfour got the start in all the Colorado games.

NO mention of the flu in game 3-4. yet he still allowed 3-4 goals

The Red Wings will forever be viewed as a rich team that buys their players every year blah blah blah blah. I remember hearing this pre-lockout. Forget it. Every team has a cap. It's up to the owners and management and coaches to make the best out of the salary.

So do these crappy non-believing announcers: Sorry Detroit is so good at building DYNASTIES!

The Mule for president.

[#19forPresident! 1]

I agree, most media outside of the Detroit market doesn't want to give us any credit.

They can keep it in my opinion, because their credit or lack thereof given to Detroit DOES NOT determine their destiny, and it CANNOT stop them from etching their names on the cup for the 4th time in the last 11 years. The only thing that allows or disallows that is the way we play, and right now we're making them look pretty stupid.

Let them talk, because it doesn't amount to s*** in the long run. We're taking care of business, if they miss crediting the best story in the playoffs right now then thats their own loss.

[Blood On The Ice 15]

Im with you 1000%. I've seen and heard the same things. Drive me ******* nuts too. If Dallas wants that paint call, then they better give back their only cup, because Hull's foot was in the crease.

[Nev 1,085]

"The roughing call shouldn't have been called in that situation to put us down 5 on 3"

Didn't Fistrick throw a punch??? is that not what the roughing call is???

There were actually 3 punches to Homers chin - by 2 different players! They would've gotten away with one, might have gotten away with two, no way the refs are gunna ignore 3.

The Dallas Stars and the Detroit Red Wings plays a similiar fast paced style, the only difference is that the Wings are far better at it

Totally agree. Dallas and Colorado were the 2 teams I wanted to meet in the playoffs because we match up so well against them. Which brings me onto another media excuse

"The Wings have had an easy route to the WCF" "Nashville are poor and injured, Colorado are injured, Dallas are tired, the Wings are lucky they didn't have to play Anaheim or San Jose"

WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE FRACKING SEED!!!!!! We're meant to have the easiest matchups because we've earned that right through the regular season!!!!! Grrrrr...

[Firehawk 305]

I'd rather they continue to focus it on everyone else so the Wings can continue to fly under the radar. I think people are starting to really take notice though.

But yes, it is annoying. You know, Osgood made a few big saves in that game, otherwise the game would have been much closer.

About the Paint Call, I think if the league wants offense to increase, they need to make sure the goalie stays in the paint. I think Holmstrom was borderline there but he was outside of the crease while the shot was coming in, backing in somewhat, but Turco wasn't 'stopped' from making the save. Was he stopped from coming out further? yes. But that's what the league should want, MORE OFFENSE. Keep the goalie IN THE NET. But I may be bias, I'm all for taking runs at goalies who like to skate around behind the net. If you're not in your crease, you are fair game.

Edited May 9, 2008 by Firehawk

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

What can ya do? Do I wish they get more credit, of course, but I try not to get too wrapped up in terms of what other people think of the Wings.

It's their opinions, and their job is to analyze stuff to the millionth power and come up with things to talk about to last into more than just a 1-minute conversation. Just take them with a grain of salt.

I know the Wings played good, I know they were the better team last night without question, regardless of "x-factors" or Dallas "rust" or "calls"/"no-calls" or whatever else. That's more than enough satisfaction for me.

[Firehawk 305]

Let's also keep in mind that the rest of North America wants to see the Wings lose, for the simple reason that the Wings have been so dominant the last 10-13 years.

[Opie 308]

I honestly think you guys need to read Yahoo sports more often, yes the writers aren't that well known and aren't hockey experts, but the pieces are usually pretty nuetral. If they do a piece on one team they will do a similar on the others (as far as playoffs go).

And most of their experts have said, the wings skill is too high for any other team, compounded with the team D and most of them see this team as unbeatable in a series, not a game, series!