In the crease rule

[wingsownnhl43 14]

Alright, what is the official rule on this? I've played competitive hockey for 15 years so it's not like I'm new to the game. I'm generally pretty good with rules, but after watching this game, I have no idea what to think.

After the Datsyuk goal getting disallowed i figured the rule was if your skates in the crease, then no goal. The very next Dallas goal there was a player that had his full body in the crease and it wasnt disallowed. What's the rule?

[tommingthepuck96 1]

I think its if the player impeeds on the goalie getting to the puck, just my guess though.

Edited May 15, 2008 by tommingthepuck96

[fastballspecial 0]

I honestly have no idea. all I know is last I checked it wasn't 1998.

[Vincanni 1]

From my understanding it has nothing to do with just merely being present within the crease and pertains to impeding the movement of the goalie while inside the crease.

In effect both goals should have counted.

[Rice 42]

Players can be in the crease but they cannot impede the goalie's ability to make the save.

[high_stick69 7]

Alright, what is the official rule on this? I've played competitive hockey for 15 years so it's not like I'm new to the game. I'm generally pretty good with rules, but after watching this game, I have no idea what to think.

After the Datsyuk goal getting disallowed i figured the rule was if your skates in the crease, then no goal. The very next Dallas goal there was a player that had his full body in the crease and it wasnt disallowed. What's the rule?

The rule is that Gary Bettman wants the Wings to win on NBC on Saturday so it can be a national broadcast. I wouldn't be surprised if he told the refs to give the game to Dallas. Even Eddie Olyczk said the refs let Dallas get away with several penalties. I'm sure the NHL makes more money the more games are played in the conference finals and the SC finals. If they are all sweeps, the NHL isn't exciting, and Bettman won't allow that. That spineless piece of crap!

[Echolalia 2,961]

You are not allowed to interfere with the goalie if you are in the crease. If you are outside of the crease and you contact the goalie, then it is ok so long as it isn't a check or anything overtly physical.

The call tonight was bad. Not only did Homer not even tough Turco, but he wasn't even in the crease when "contact" was made. Heck, Turco didn't even complain about it.

[gordie_howe 0]

Datsyuk's momentum carried him into Turco, thereby impeding the goaltender.

No goal. You can't score by pushing the goaltender into the net with the puck.

[10 Minute Misconduct 104]

reporter: have u ever heard of a call for having your rear end in the crease?

zetterberg: "no, never"

reporter: have u ever heard of that rule?

zetterberg: "no i don't think it is a rule" lolol

[RoninJai 5]

I looked it up. Here it is:

Rule 69 – Interference on the Goalkeeper

69.1 Interference on the Goalkeeper - This rule is based on the premise

that an attacking player’s position, whether inside or outside the

crease, should not, by itself, determine whether a goal should be

allowed or disallowed. In other words, goals scored while attacking

players are standing in the crease may, in appropriate circumstances

be allowed. Goals should be disallowed only if: (1) an attacking

player, either by his positioning or by contact, impairs the goalkeeper’s

ability to move freely within his crease or defend his goal; or (2) an

attacking player initiates intentional or deliberate contact with a

goalkeeper, inside or outside of his goal crease. Incidental contact

with a goalkeeper will be permitted, and resulting goals allowed, when

such contact is initiated outside of the goal crease, provided the

attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.

The rule will be enforced exclusively in accordance with the on-ice

judgement of the Referee(s), and not by means of video replay or

review.

For purposes of this rule, “contact,” whether incidental or

otherwise, shall mean any contact that is made between or among a

goalkeeper and attacking player(s), whether by means of a stick or

any part of the body.

The overriding rationale of this rule is that a goalkeeper should

have the ability to move freely within his goal crease without being

hindered by the actions of an attacking player. If an attacking player

enters the goal crease and, by his actions, impairs the goalkeeper’s

ability to defend his goal, and a goal is scored, the goal will be

disallowed.

If an attacking player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by a

defending player so as to cause him to come into contact with the

goalkeeper, such contact will not be deemed contact initiated by the

attacking player for purposes of this rule, provided the attacking player

has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.

[NHLrules? 32]

The rule is:

The rule can be changed as the NHL sees fit at the time the said infraction occurs.

This is the only league in the planet that can change the rules on the fly.

See the Avery Rule, comes out of left field and in the middle of the playoffs no less.

[RedRockit 0]

The rule is that Gary Bettman wants the Wings to win on NBC on Saturday so it can be a national broadcast. I wouldn't be surprised if he told the refs to give the game to Dallas. Even Eddie Olyczk said the refs let Dallas get away with several penalties. I'm sure the NHL makes more money the more games are played in the conference finals and the SC finals. If they are all sweeps, the NHL isn't exciting, and Bettman won't allow that. That spineless piece of crap!

It's Konspiratsia!

Or not.

Bettman's a tool, but he doesn't have THAT much power or influence.

Homer gets away with a lot of stuff, and that's because of the goalies and D-guys slashing and hacking away at him constantly. If the refs consistently called Homes for interference, they'd have to consistently call slashing etc. on D-men and goalies, and the game would get ridiculous.

I adore Homer The Goalie Pestilence, think he's hands-down the toughest guy in the league. He just got a weak one called against him tonight. I kinda saw it coming, after Game 1 when his arse was in Turco's face (think it was a good goal, myself, but there's a big difference of opinion around the league on that one).

[kylee 727]

these homer interference calls are really getting to me...tonight im pretty sure he didnt even touch turco...

[pavyaz19 1]

if it was goaltender interference, then why wasn't a penalty called?

[kylee 727]

^ touche.

i believe they figured it best to take away a goal rather than call a uh... penalty.

[Guest Crymson]

Datsyuk's momentum carried him into Turco, thereby impeding the goaltender.

No goal. You can't score by pushing the goaltender into the net with the puck.

Apparently O'Halloran missed that rule last year when he allowed Rob Niedermayer to push Hasek into the net unpenalized... oh, yeah, not only did he not blow the whistle on that, but he also didn't blow the whistle when the puck was in Hasek's pads (dead puck).

[pjgj13 30]

I think the reply showed that Homer's right buttcheek was and inch and a half into the blue paint. I saw the replay and watched in in super-slowmo in HD. I think he even broke wind and THAT is what caused the disallowed goal.

[tiff_luvs_homer 5]

these homer interference calls are really getting to me...tonight im pretty sure he didnt even touch turco...

I think they just like to pick on Homer and it does get old after awhile... and I'm pretty sure he didn't touch turco either so it was BS.

[pjgj13 30]

What I love is when he isn't even IN the crease and the goalie bumps him and gets called for it.

[Reilly 24]

The understanding use to be that a player could go anywhere in the crease, but he would be subject to a beating from an opposing player without ay interference called. That's how it used to be, anyway.

[stormboy 47]

The rule is that Gary Bettman wants the Wings to win on NBC on Saturday so it can be a national broadcast. I wouldn't be surprised if he told the refs to give the game to Dallas. Even Eddie Olyczk said the refs let Dallas get away with several penalties. I'm sure the NHL makes more money the more games are played in the conference finals and the SC finals. If they are all sweeps, the NHL isn't exciting, and Bettman won't allow that. That spineless piece of crap!

i like how edzo is right on the money when he's calling other teams out.

...

i seem to remember extensive discussion of this rule in the threads pertaining to the notorious disallowed goal in the 3-2 anaheim game. i remember at the time being pissed b/c if it's goalie interference, i thought, there should be a penalty. turns out it's actually in the rules that the ref can disallow the goal without calling a 2-minute minor. homer's (or any other player's) infraction wouldn't have to amount to the usual penalty call's worth of interference to disallow the goal. it just has to impede the attempts of the goalie to make the save in the paint.

in the case of the stars goal when their skater was in the paint, he wasn't impeding ozzie's movement. if ozzie had tried to get to that part of the crease to make a save before the stars player had the puck in the crease, it would have been disallowed (theoretically). but it wasn't.

i agree that it was a totally blown call. but, it is within the rules to disallow a goal due to goalie interference without calling a penalty. it seems counter-intuitive, but them's the rules.

[Vladiator 116]

It's called a Crosby call because the league would like an underrated team in P team with Crosby on it to win it all and scratch off the WCF winners of a goal and justify Crosby. Worst calls I have seen in a long time. Bad refs and it's getting very obvious. God is this getting more obvious.

[Wing Across The Pond 196]

just have to shove it all in Dallas's faces and get the mule back to do it as well.... Turco wont have any time to rest!!!!!! btw is Turco a fat ass??? or is it that all goaltenders just look like that?? cos i can picture him as a fatty

[YzerPucks19 4]

That disallowed goal on Datsyuk's goal was a joke. Holmstrom wasn't even in the crease.

Ref didn't even go up stairs just waved off. Why have a video replay?

As far a Dats running into Turco and it going in that should have counted, lol. Like the Ducks did to the Wings last year it counted but not these playoffs.

[hockeysattva 8]

Yes there were blown calls, and it happens every year, series, and game. But, reading the posts in here is something else.

I certainly hope that the team didn't lose the game because of a couple blown calls.

Holmstrom gets away with some, and today he got a bad call, but Detroit could have been done a goal for a million reasons.

That Datsyuk goal... well, the puck was out of sight and thats why it was whistled dead. It wasn't a goal because the whistle ended play before the puck crossed the line, period.

I didn't like the game, but it wasn't a conspiracy -- the Wings could have won, but didn't and now we have to see if they can do it next game.