Graybeard 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 According to TSN Therrien is looking at putting his two stars together. Considering that in general they have no chemistry playing together 5 on 5 this will hopefully backfire on them. Malkin has already stated that he doesn't like playing on the wing and that it throws off his whole game. It will also take away what little scoring threat they had on their second line and should take the defensive burden off our boys so they can light em up even more than they already have been. In my opinion the fact that their coach has let this out in the media so Babcock can prepare for it instead of springing it on him at the opening face off is just more evidence that he is really out of his league. Having the last change, if he had a clue he would have put a checking line out against Pav and Hank and dropped this bombshell on our second line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NHLrules? 32 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 So they will have one line, and it will get shut down by our best line? That may be even dumber than the ***** about the ref strategy. I cant imagine three weak lines would be a good way to come at the wings, especially seeing how it could make their team D even worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KocursRightHand 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 The guy's legs are toast. I think he's a non-factor and a defensive liability since he doesn't have the energy to back check properly let alone EVERy shift. Still, he's gotta be accounted for. I'm all for it, Michelle... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 Horrible idea. The moment that line takes the ice, the Wings will 100% percent be focused on clearing the zone and getting the line change to counter it with ZDH & Lids-Raf. If the Penguins do take advantage of it at some point, look for the Wings to shorten their bench to prevent a poor matchup. No problem at all for the Wings, it just means less of the 4th line if the Pens capitalize. If they don't the Wings depth will kill them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miksteri 55 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 or... "Malkin's lazy and he sucks" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Vlad Forever 1 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 Maybe he's putting that out there just to get Babs to adjust his winning formula. Which he won't, because he's actually smart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastballspecial 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) if their top line is stacked with Hossa - Crosby - Malkin, then yeah, they are something to worry about considering they have last change. this might be the time for Babs to switch up the defensive pairings to get a more reasonable matchup. Lidstrom - Lilja Rafalski - Kronwall Stuart - Lebda or something along those lines. OR... stick with what's been working, get control of the puck and switch lines on the fly to match up. I mean, the time on attack has to be so lopsided, so why wouldn't this work? the Penguins never have the puck! Edited May 28, 2008 by fastballspecial Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincanni 1 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 This just seems to be a terrible idea, Michelle's scrambling for answers and all this would do is further expose their team's lack of depth. As dominant as our top line has been they're not the ones scoring the majority of our goals right now against the Pens. The only conceivable reason Michelle would have to put these three together might be as a PP experiment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chase 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 Yeah not worried about this at all. Bad move IMO by Therrien. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DYags 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 So they will have one line, and it will get shut down by our best line? That may be even dumber than the ***** about the ref strategy. I cant imagine three weak lines would be a good way to come at the wings, especially seeing how it could make their team D even worse. lol, yeah I'm happy to see Malkin and Crosby on the top line.. with the way Malkin has been playing defensively (slow and lazy), this should be good news for the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reilly 24 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 Well, they're hoping getting home-ice match-ups will help generate offense. This might actually help Hank and Pavel get more scoring chanes as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) Therrien has two options: spread the talent or max it out on one line. There are pros and cons to both. Ultimately, though, I think he'd be much smarter to spread out the attack. All maxing out the first line is going to do is make it easier to counter and contain the Pens' oh-so-explosive stars, as it's one less assignment the Wings have to worry about (i.e., Crosby's line = One assignment. That, I think, is much more favorable than having two high-level assignments divided between two lines.) I give Babs kudos for essentially calling Therrien on this yesterday when he dismissed the notion that he might split up Hank and Dats. Each of our top three lines as they stand right now can go toe-to-toe against any of the Pens' top three lines. Babs knows it, the Wings know it. Does Therrien know it? He should by the end of the night. Edited May 28, 2008 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lidstromrules16 7 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 What I love about Babs is his view on matchups. He said in his presser the other day that he thinks sometimes people get too hung up on matchups. He said he thinks it will be nice to be able to just roll the lines and let them go and play, without worrying about the matchups all that much. IMO this is genius. I do understand trying to keep Lids out with the Pens top line though, but thats a no brainer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 Basically this means if we stop their top line, we should easily win the game (assuming we find the back of the net). I'm wondering what happens if they still lose after this game. Is he only going to play 2 lines in game 4? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Vlad Forever 1 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 What I love about Babs is his view on matchups. He said in his presser the other day that he thinks sometimes people get too hung up on matchups. He said he thinks it will be nice to be able to just roll the lines and let them go and play, without worrying about the matchups all that much. IMO this is genius. I do understand trying to keep Lids out with the Pens top line though, but thats a no brainer. Agreed. You can play mix and match / chess games all series long, but at some point, you just have to go out there and skate and hope your team can stay healthy and play their hearts out. That's where the coaches job ends, and the players are accountable for execution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 All the talk out of Pittsburgh is about how they have the last change to get Crosby away from Zetterberg. I beleive this hurts what was already a crappy strategy. If Z plays 23 minutes and Draper,who is arguably a better checking center than Hank,plays 17 that takes 2/3 of the game away from Crosby and now Malkin also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tipetz22 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 Sounds like desperation . . . Therrien worried = line changes = Game 2 = loss Therrien panic = more line changes = Game 3 = _______ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lidstromrules16 7 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) Sounds like desperation . . . Therrien worried = line changes = Game 2 = loss Therrien panic = more line changes = Game 3 = Cupcakes!!!! in all seriousness though, I wonder if he will go through with it, or juggle them several minutes into the game? also, this could lead to Detroit dictating the game, if Therrien is obsessed with matchups. If he wants that line against the ZDH line, Babs could play that line less minutes, thus giving less minutes to the Malkinator. IMO, I like the Wings secondary scoring vs. theirs if Malkin is on the first line. Edited May 28, 2008 by Lidstromrules16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 Sounds like desperation . . . Therrien worried = line changes = Game 2 = loss Therrien panic = more line changes = Game 3 = _______ Profit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 I don't know if he'll do it or not, but I think it's worth a try. I mean, one good line scoring a single goal would be an improvement over what they've done with their talent spread out over the first two games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvxp 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 So they will have one line, and it will get shut down by our best line? That may be even dumber than the ***** about the ref strategy. I cant imagine three weak lines would be a good way to come at the wings, especially seeing how it could make their team D even worse. So true. We don't care what they do. Were up two games to none and they have yet to score. We will keep doing what were doing. Whatever match-ups they do doesn't matter to us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 According to TSN Therrien is looking at putting his two stars together. Considering that in general they have no chemistry playing together 5 on 5 this will hopefully backfire on them. Malkin has already stated that he doesn't like playing on the wing and that it throws off his whole game. It will also take away what little scoring threat they had on their second line and should take the defensive burden off our boys so they can light em up even more than they already have been. In my opinion the fact that their coach has let this out in the media so Babcock can prepare for it instead of springing it on him at the opening face off is just more evidence that he is really out of his league. Having the last change, if he had a clue he would have put a checking line out against Pav and Hank and dropped this bombshell on our second line. What's next? Putting Garth Snow in for Fleury? All of this stinks of Terry Murray and the Flyers. Poor Pennsylvania teams have no answer for Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 Good for us totally... Malkin blows and he will only handcuff the already non-existent kid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 To me this is another situation like playing Jose ThreeorFour, dumb move. You have already singled the guy out for not playing the way you need him, he comes out and admits he is tired and his legs are like flat tires. What does Therrien do put him up a line, what would Babs do, send him down a line or two. If the guy is already not playing well enough why put him in a spot where his bad or lackluster performance is going to hurt you even more!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladimir316 28 Report post Posted May 28, 2008 I just read it in the USA Today (Europe has the paper one day later).... It is kindly a bad move, but on the other hand. They have to do something different to make it more difficult for the Wings. Last line-ups didnt work, Wings were to powerfull. Dupuis wasnt that strong on Crosby's line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites