Sundin Headed to Free Agency

[Dixi 0]

I vote Nick gets on the phone with him and says something in Ikean.

That was very funny!

If Mats rally wants to win the cup, then he would be stupid not to come and play for us.

I like him as a player, but he is a "djurgårdsjävel". Thats a word in Ikean.

[Production Line 1]

That was very funny!

If Mats rally wants to win the cup, then he would be stupid not to come and play for us.

I like him as a player, but he is a "djurgårdsjävel". Thats a word in Ikean.

Meaning what????

[Dixi 0]

Meaning what????

Meaning that he played for my hate team in the world, Djurgårdens IF.

[Dabura 12,232]

[DatsyukownzU13 1]

That video just made me want to get Sundin more than ever.

[stevie for president 42]

If Sundin comes to the wings, the things babcock could throw out there would be incredible.

Keep ZDH together and go Franzen-sundin-hudler or filppula, or he could reassemble the 2 kids and a goat line but with sundin replacing hull, or he could finally break up zetterberg and datsyuk, and the powerplay would be awesome AND sundin could replace sammy as the 2nd pp unit defenseman.

Id be ecstatic of sundin comes to detroit, but if he doesnt, i hope he signs somewhere where he finally has someone to play with. could you imagine how he would do with some help?

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

Montreal has failed to sign him before free agency

Eklund reporting that

"Detroit now a major player for Sundin"

edit: i think he may be leaning towards retirement honestly

Edited June 30, 2008 by omnipotent_hudler

[Grim 5]

Anyone check out Eklund's site? the way Leaf fans are torching Sundin is almost comical. Hmmm... lets see, the team rips out its heart and soul (Tucker & Wellwood) and is on the verge of dumping its defensive talent (McCabe and Kubina). Sure sounds like a team moving in the right direction... NOT!

[MacK_Attack 108]

Anyone check out Eklund's site? the way Leaf fans are torching Sundin is almost comical. Hmmm... lets see, the team rips out its heart and soul (Tucker & Wellwood) and is on the verge of dumping its defensive talent (McCabe and Kubina). Sure sounds like a team moving in the right direction... NOT!

So what they should do is keep the core together that has failed to make the playoffs for three straight years?

The last thing Kyle Wellwood has ever been is a heart & soul player. Tucker hasn't been a heart & soul player since 2004.

[Dabura 12,232]

If Sundin comes to the wings, the things babcock could throw out there would be incredible.

Keep ZDH together and go Franzen-sundin-hudler or filppula, or he could reassemble the 2 kids and a goat line but with sundin replacing hull, or he could finally break up zetterberg and datsyuk, and the powerplay would be awesome AND sundin could replace sammy as the 2nd pp unit defenseman.

Homer needs at least one of Hank and Dats, ideally both. And really, it's the best line in hockey. So I'd try putting him on the second with Mule and Flip. That line would be absurdly difficult to shut down.

Edited June 30, 2008 by Dabura

[Grim 5]

So what they should do is keep the core together that has failed to make the playoffs for three straight years?

The last thing Kyle Wellwood has ever been is a heart & soul player. Tucker hasn't been a heart & soul player since 2004.

Well, you also dont buyout role players just to "set the table" for next year. Apparently Fletch doesn't believe the Laffs suck enough to compete for that first overall pick next year.

[Dominator2005 558]

Habs are offering 2 years $8M per season to Sundin... It seems like he wants to play for the Rangers. I think that Holland should go after Rolston ($4M per season for 2-3 years) and Bertuzzi ($2M for one season) or Ryder (one year deal).

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Homer

Rolston - Franzen - Filppula

Cleary - Hudler - Bertuzzi

Maltby - Draper - Helm/McCarty/Downey

Lidstrom - Rafalski

Kronwall - Stuart/Smith/Orpik ($3M)

Lebda - Ericsson/Chelios/Meech

Osgood/Howard

[sixer 37]

We would be unstoppable with Sundin and an overall Healthy squad. Unstoppable, Sundin is a force!

[MacK_Attack 108]

Well, you also dont buyout role players just to "set the table" for next year. Apparently Fletch doesn't believe the Laffs suck enough to compete for that first overall pick next year.

Correct, you buyout players who contribute negatively to your team, who have horrendous contracts and that would be a negative influence on your younger players. Darcy Tucker could fit into all three of those categories. There was clearly four players that they targeted as being a negative force around the team, those being Wellwood, Tucker, Raycroft & McCabe.

They weren't bad enough to get the 1st overall pick....they are now.

Edited June 30, 2008 by MacK_Attack

[kylee 727]

Habs are offering 2 years $8M per season to Sundin... It seems like he wants to play for the Rangers. I think that Holland should go after Rolston ($4M per season for 2-3 years) and Bertuzzi ($2M for one season) or Ryder (one year deal).

i could definitely go for that.

[Grim 5]

They weren't bad enough to get the 1st overall pick....they are now.

ouch. you win.

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Rolston probably isn't happening. Bertuzzi definitely isn't happening -- at any price. He basically told management to take a walk. Considering the Wings' "family atmosphere" and the fact that certain folks in the Wings camp still haven't even gotten over the Feds' fallout, there's no way he gets taken back. Oh yeah, and he's was pretty much awful in his brief stint in Motown. Granted, he wasn't 100%, and yeah, I loved the sight of Bertuzzi wearing the Winged Wheel (I mean, come on! How cool was that?) But it's not happening, especially since we have absolutely zero need for any more secondary scorers or roleplayer types.

I honestly think we're more likely to land Sundin than we are either of those two. And, if you'll pardon me for being a geek for a second: Our top 6 would be

absolutely.

fooking.

sick.

Edited June 30, 2008 by Dabura

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If Sundin really want to win the cup he WILL join wings, if he doesnt think its the most important thing he will either retire or play for toronto or new york rangers

[Dominator2005 558]

Rolston probably isn't happening. Bertuzzi definitely isn't happening -- at any price. He basically told management to take a walk. Considering the Wings' "family atmosphere" and the fact that certain folks in the Wings camp still haven't even gotten over the Feds' fallout, there's no way he gets taken back. Oh yeah, and he's was pretty much awful in his brief stint in Motown. Granted, he wasn't 100%, and yeah, I loved the sight of Bertuzzi wearing the Winged Wheel (I mean, come on! How cool was that?) But it's not happening, especially since we have absolutely zero need for any more secondary scorers or roleplayer types.

I honestly think we're more likely to land Sundin than we are either of those two. And, if you'll pardon me for being a geek for a second: Our top 6 would be

absolutely.

fooking.

sick.

I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... We have only Franzen as secondary scoring - and he was on fire last 20 games of regular season... first 60 games of the season he was ICE COLD. Rolston is like Draper with more offensive skills... he can play on any team and let me say $4M for him isn't that expensive in NHL. Bertuzzi is Bertuzzi, already scored 40 goals and I think that he could be 25-30 goals scorer again... Take him for one year at $2M...

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We have only Franzen as secondary scoring

And Flip, Homer, Cleary, Sammy and Hudler. Altogether, that's two whole lines of secondary scorers, which means two secondary scorers in the bottom 6. Which makes for a damn deep offensive corps. Which we saw this postseason. So, again, there's absolutely zero need to run the number of secondary scorers up to 7 or 8. If you're carrying 5-6 secondary scorers, it's time to either stand pat or add elsewhere within the forward lineup.

So, ask yourself: Do we need more, say, roleplayer/energy types? Then look at the guys we have in that mold -- Draper, Maltby, Helm, McCarty, Kopecky, Downey, Abdelkader in the pipeline, maybe Leino....I don't think we need more depth guys.

How about primary scorers, then? Hank and Dats are just flat-out insane, and I'd be fine with going into this coming season's playoffs with them as our 1 and 1a again. And hey, if Franzen continues to be a force, he's a solid 1b. But it would be nice to have a little more flexibility in this department. As I said, adding a guy like Sundin would make the top 6 unstoppable.

Edited July 1, 2008 by Dabura

[VM1138 1,921]

And Flip, Homer, Cleary, Sammy and Hudler. Altogether, that's two whole lines of secondary scorers, which means two secondary scorers in the bottom 6. Which makes for a damn deep offensive corps. Which we saw this postseason. So, again, there's absolutely zero need to run the number of secondary scorers up to 7 or 8. If you're carrying 5-6 secondary scorers, it's time to either stand pat or add elsewhere within the forward lineup.

So, ask yourself: Do we need more, say, roleplayer/energy types? Then look at the guys we have in that mold -- Draper, Maltby, Helm, McCarty, Kopecky, Downey, Abdelkader in the pipeline, maybe Leino....I don't think we need more depth guys.

How about primary scorers, then? Hank and Dats are just flat-out insane, and I'd be fine with going into this coming season's playoffs with them as our 1 and 1a again. And hey, if Franzen continues to be a force, he's a solid 1b. But it would be nice to have a little more flexibility in this department. As I said, adding a guy like Sundin would make the top 6 unstoppable.

Flip and Hudler really dont' count. They play amazing, yes, but are pretty inconsistent. We may have had enough to win this year, and they may come into their own, but there is no reason to turn down more secondary scoring. None whatsoever. This whole "we have enough to get by" thing is not goign to cut it when other teams like Dallas, etc. are IMPROVING their teams. Have you all forgotten we need to compete again next year, and that it won't just be a repeat. Other teams are going to improve and we have to keep ahead of them. So if we have 2 lines of secondary scoring, let's get 3 lines of it.

[HenryMalredo 2]

And Flip, Homer, Cleary, Sammy and Hudler. Altogether, that's two whole lines of secondary scorers, which means two secondary scorers in the bottom 6. Which makes for a damn deep offensive corps. Which we saw this postseason. So, again, there's absolutely zero need to run the number of secondary scorers up to 7 or 8. If you're carrying 5-6 secondary scorers, it's time to either stand pat or add elsewhere within the forward lineup.

So, ask yourself: Do we need more, say, roleplayer/energy types? Then look at the guys we have in that mold -- Draper, Maltby, Helm, McCarty, Kopecky, Downey, Abdelkader in the pipeline, maybe Leino....I don't think we need more depth guys.

How about primary scorers, then? Hank and Dats are just flat-out insane, and I'd be fine with going into this coming season's playoffs with them as our 1 and 1a again. And hey, if Franzen continues to be a force, he's a solid 1b. But it would be nice to have a little more flexibility in this department. As I said, adding a guy like Sundin would make the top 6 unstoppable.

The Wings have an amazing first line. The ZDH line is not going to be broken up. There is no need for a first line player, it would be a complete waste of money. The Wings have no set second line. Franzen, Cleary, Samuellson, Hudler, Flip have provided secondary scoring before, but they provide no guarentees. Somebody like Hossa or Sundin aren't gonna come to the Wings unless they're only going to play for cheap and are going to play on the second line. The Wing's top line has been broken apart before, but Babcock always puts them back together because they are the best first line in the NHL. Please tell me who you would take off that line to make room for a Hossa or Sundin?

[eva unit zero 271]

The Wings have an amazing first line. The ZDH line is not going to be broken up. There is no need for a first line player, it would be a complete waste of money. The Wings have no set second line. Franzen, Cleary, Samuellson, Hudler, Flip have provided secondary scoring before, but they provide no guarentees. Somebody like Hossa or Sundin aren't gonna come to the Wings unless they're only going to play for cheap and are going to play on the second line. The Wing's top line has been broken apart before, but Babcock always puts them back together because they are the best first line in the NHL. Please tell me who you would take off that line to make room for a Hossa or Sundin?

If the Wings signed Hossa...I wouldn't blink an eye in shifting, if only as a test phase, to a Holmstrom/Zetterberg/Hossa and Hudler/Datsyuk/Cleary setup, or something similar. Franzen/Filppula/Samuelsson as the third line instead of the second?

[Rivalred 630]

Sundin would be a great asset here with great leadership... I am not knocking the leadership of Lid's - he is a great captain... I just want to emphasize that Sundin is the closest thing to having Stevie Y back in some aspects...

[VM1138 1,921]

If the Wings signed Hossa...I wouldn't blink an eye in shifting, if only as a test phase, to a Holmstrom/Zetterberg/Hossa and Hudler/Datsyuk/Cleary setup, or something similar. Franzen/Filppula/Samuelsson as the third line instead of the second?

The regular season is for experimentation, but come on, Hudler second line and Franzen third line? If anything I think Franzen more than anyone else has proven and earned a permanent spot on the 2nd line for the season.