Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Link The Wings wanted to make sure Chelios, 46, would not balk at being a healthy scratch for probably around half the season's 82 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Awesome. Good to see he is sticking around. Perfect role for him to be a part time player. Sure he didn't look so good in the playoffs, but I bet anything he wasn't fully recovered from his leg injury. Either way, he will continue to be an excellent mentor for the kids we got coming up this season. Our D remains in good hands!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Holland also is close to reaching a two-year deal with defenseman Andreas Lilja. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!! CAN'T STOP THE PAIN TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicada 4 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 WOOOOO WOOOOOO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Hey, as long as he is ready to forfill his role on the team like that more power to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvxp 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Link The Wings wanted to make sure Chelios, 46, would not balk at being a healthy scratch for probably around half the season's 82 games. This is so stupid to bring a 'has been' back into the fold. You've got young legs in the system, they should be on the team. Chelios should retire he is just taking up a roster spot at this point in his career. What a F_ _ _ ing joke!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Hey, as long as he is ready to forfill his role on the team like that more power to him. fulfill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 fulfill Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dump-N-Thump Report post Posted June 25, 2008 YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!! CAN'T STOP THE PAIN TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHooooChooooo Paintrains coming.. :D :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Meaning a discount seeing as that it'll be a two-year deal, for a solid depth bottom pairing Dman that can fill in for injuries and block shots. Not bad if the price is right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Meaning a discount seeing as that it'll be a two-year deal, for a solid depth bottom pairing Dman that can fill in for injuries and block shots. Not bad if the price is right. Thinking the same thing, 2 years around a mil a year, not too bad for a defenseman who while does make his fair share of mistakes (what 4-6 dman doesn't) blocks shots, can hit, played well in the SCF. If the price is right, very good depth signing. Listen we are all hoping Ericsson and Kindl will be the BOMB, however they are not guaranteed, yes Babs said Ericsson was ready last year and I trust his opinion but having guys like Lilja and Cheli around proved useful last year when the top pairing was Lilja and Lebda for a stretch. The way this team is coached and set up, defenseman are like Starting pitchers in baseball, just when you think you have too many, you don't have enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 This is so stupid to bring a 'has been' back into the fold. You've got young legs in the system, they should be on the team. Chelios should retire he is just taking up a roster spot at this point in his career. What a F_ _ _ ing joke!!! Once again. Trusting half the defense to a bunch of untested kids is a BAD IDEA. You bring them in one, two at a time. I'd like to see Helm up here next season, but who knows if that'll happen. Leino, Abdelkader, allt he other forwards can wait. Howard should be brought up by sheer necessity. As for defense, we've got Meech, Quincey, and Ericcson. I think Ericcson stays down another year, and it'll be Meech being called up, with Quincey being traded. Balance, people. Teams would kill to have a player like Chelios mentoring their kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_144 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Once again. Trusting half the defense to a bunch of untested kids is a BAD IDEA. You bring them in one, two at a time. I'd like to see Helm up here next season, but who knows if that'll happen. Leino, Abdelkader, allt he other forwards can wait. Howard should be brought up by sheer necessity. As for defense, we've got Meech, Quincey, and Ericcson. I think Ericcson stays down another year, and it'll be Meech being called up, with Quincey being traded. Balance, people. Teams would kill to have a player like Chelios mentoring their kids. cheli should only stay if he "clicks" with the new guys. his role is not as a player, but as a mentor. i'm sure he is a great mentor, one of the best BUT he has to be the rite mentor for the new young guys. if he isnt, let him go. its hard to tell before hand, but i think cheli can make that judgement pretty well together with stevie Y, babcock, and holland... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller76 463 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) Meaning a discount seeing as that it'll be a two-year deal, for a solid depth bottom pairing Dman that can fill in for injuries and block shots. Not bad if the price is right. I totally agree. There is no reason to not sign him. He is an excellent fill in for an injured D-man. This will be a good deal to get done. People fail to realize that this a solid locker room veteran, that is willing to take a backseat to some young talent, and play a limited schedule. Some on here are way to critical about small pieces of this giant puzzle. Edit: clarity Edited June 25, 2008 by miller76 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsMyWings13 4 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 I have mixed feelings about Chelios returning. His experience and knowledge is great but his play has started diminish and I think he is taking up a roster spot that someone else deserves. If we didn't have a such a log jam at the position I would be very happy to have him back but at this point I would rather see him retire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 He still has value as a third-pairing guy or reserve. And mentor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 This is so stupid to bring a 'has been' back into the fold. You've got young legs in the system, they should be on the team. Chelios should retire he is just taking up a roster spot at this point in his career. What a F_ _ _ ing joke!!! Such short memories people have. One bad series against Dallas and that's all we hear about. Turn in your Red Wings Fan card and get off of this message board. We have enough members with severe ADD here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 I totally agree. There is no reason to not sign him. He is an excellent fill in for an injured D-man. This will be a good deal to get done. People fail to realize that this a solid locker room veteran, that is willing to take a backseat to some young talent, and play a limited schedule. Some on here are way to critical about small pieces of this giant puzzle. Yeah, but many idiots on this board don't see that big picture. They just assume that he's too old, and therefore is lazy and sucks. I wish we could have seen just how much better Jiri Fischer would have improved, because I loved watching him pair with Chelios in 2002. That said, I absolutely love the rare occasions where Chelios and Lidstrom are paired together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 This is so stupid to bring a 'has been' back into the fold. You've got young legs in the system, they should be on the team. Chelios should retire he is just taking up a roster spot at this point in his career. What a F_ _ _ ing joke!!! Chelios works out like a freak. Sure he's not like he was in his 20s and not as fast, nobody was. But him in his mid-40s is a lot like veterans in their mid/late 30s. He hasn't got top line minutes in forever and shouldn't, he'll be in a reserve role. There is no harm in this, he can mentor one or two of the younger guys into more of a full time role like has been suggested already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dump-N-Thump Report post Posted June 25, 2008 "The News claims the Red Wings would like to sign Stuart to a deal worth around $3 million per season, but the Kings appear interested in bringing him back for more." From Thefourthperiod.com Doesn't sound promising.. But atleast we got a stanely cup out of the deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvxp 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 Such short memories people have. One bad series against Dallas and that's all we hear about. Turn in your Red Wings Fan card and get off of this message board. We have enough members with severe ADD here. If you can't see that he is slooooooooooooooooow your blind. Do you think Cheli will get better next year at 47? Why don't you turn in your Red Wings Fan card and YOU get off this message board. Did you see how the Wings were before Babcock? Same old thing was to bring in the vets, now that were bringing in some youth you can see where it has taken us. Severe ADD? Oh your funny...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 If you can't see that he is slooooooooooooooooow your blind. Do you think Cheli will get better next year at 47? Why don't you turn in your Red Wings Fan card and YOU get off this message board. Did you see how the Wings were before Babcock? Same old thing was to bring in the vets, now that were bringing in some youth you can see where it has taken us. Severe ADD? Oh your funny...... The current roster more or less... 8 Justin Abdelkader 6' 1" 215 Feb 25, 1987 21 Muskegon, MI, USA 11 Dan Cleary 6' 0" 210 Dec 18, 1978 29 Carbonear, NL, CAN 13 Pavel Datsyuk "A" 5' 11" 194 Jul 20, 1978 29 Sverdlovsk, RUS 20 Aaron Downey 6' 1" 215 Aug 27, 1974 33 Shelburne, ON, CAN 17 Dallas Drake 6' 0" 186 Feb 4, 1969 39 Trail, BC, CAN 33 Kris Draper "A" 5' 10" 188 May 24, 1971 37 Toronto, ON, CAN 51 Valtteri Filppula 6' 0" 193 Mar 20, 1984 24 Vantaa, FIN 93 Johan Franzen 6' 3" 220 Dec 23, 1979 28 Vetlanda, SWE 44 Mark Hartigan 6' 0" 200 Oct 15, 1977 30 Fort St. John, BC, CAN 43 Darren Helm 5' 11" 172 Jan 21, 1987 21 Winnipeg, MB, CAN 96 Tomas Holmstrom 6' 0" 203 Jan 23, 1973 35 Pieta, SWE 26 Jiri Hudler 5' 10" 182 Jan 4, 1984 24 Olomouc, CZE 82 Tomas Kopecky 6' 3" 200 Feb 5, 1982 26 Ilava, SVK 18 Kirk Maltby 6' 0" 193 Dec 22, 1972 35 Guelph, ON, CAN 25 Darren McCarty 6' 1" 210 Apr 1, 1972 36 Burnaby, BC, CAN 42 Mattias Ritola 6' 0" 192 Mar 14, 1987 21 Borlange, SWE 37 Mikael Samuelsson 6' 2" 213 Dec 23, 1976 31 Mariefred, SWE 40 Henrik Zetterberg "A" 5' 11" 195 Oct 9, 1980 27 Njurunda, SWE Defensemen # Player Height Weight DOB Age Birthplace 24 Chris Chelios 6' 0" 191 Jan 25, 1962 46 Chicago, IL, USA 52 Jonathan Ericsson 6' 4" 206 Mar 2, 1984 24 Karlskrona, SWE 46 Jakub Kindl 6' 3" 199 Feb 10, 1987 21 Sumperk, CZE 55 Niklas Kronwall 6' 0" 189 Jan 12, 1981 27 Stockholm, SWE 22 Brett Lebda 5' 9" 195 Jan 15, 1982 26 Buffalo Grove, IL, USA 5 Nicklas Lidstrom "C" 6' 1" 189 Apr 28, 1970 38 Vasteras, SWE 3 Andreas Lilja 6' 3" 220 Jul 13, 1975 32 Helsin, SWE 14 Derek Meech 5' 11" 197 Apr 21, 1984 24 Winnipeg, MB, CAN 28 Brian Rafalski 5' 10" 191 Sep 28, 1973 34 Dearborn, MI, USA 23 Brad Stuart 6' 2" 213 Nov 6, 1979 28 Rocky Mountain House, CAN Goalies # Player Height Weight DOB Age Birthplace 30 Chris Osgood 5' 10" 178 Nov 26, 1972 35 Peace River, AB, CAN Last numbers for each player are their ages. Other than Chelios, nobody over 40, and I got a hunch that Drake might be retiring. A few veterans obviously in their later years of age such as Lidstrom, Draper etc. but the Wings aren't as "old" as typically perceived this past season, and for now at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvxp 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 QUOTE (miller76 @ June 25, 2008 - 12:27PM) * I totally agree. There is no reason to not sign him. He is an excellent fill in for an injured D-man. This will be a good deal to get done. People fail to realize that this a solid locker room veteran, that is willing to take a backseat to some young talent, and play a limited schedule. Some on here are way to critical about small pieces of this giant puzzle. Yeah, but many idiots on this board don't see that big picture. They just assume that he's too old, and therefore is lazy and sucks. We have plenty of "solid locker room vets", but we are short one assistant coach. I would just rather see Chelios as an assistant coach at this point in his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) We have plenty of "solid locker room vets" Not along the blue line. Without Chelios, our only veterans on the back end would be Lidstrom and Rafalski, neither of whom plays the kind of game Cheli plays, and neither of whom could offer the kind of insight and lessons Cheli can offer. And a lot of that stuff is stuff you have to see put in action (i.e., done in games, not drawn on a clipboard). I have no problem with this signing. If he falters, his playing time can be given to Meech or Quincey or Ericsson. Edited June 25, 2008 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
