Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted June 29, 2008 The thing is he's already hit the bottom, and if he wants to be a part of a successful hockey club anywhere, he needs to realize that he needs to change some things. If he comes here, he will be here as a backup, and pulling his s*** isn't going to do nearly the amount of damage as it did in Ottawa. First off, he officially has a history, so any team (not just the Wings) will be much more efficient to either whip him into shape or ship him out of town if he starts acting up. Secondly, a veteran, family-like team like the Wings wont be as phased if Emery tries to start something. There might be a couple games where everyone is a bit off, but like I said, Emery won't have the opportunity to singlehandedly derail the Wings' run for the cup. He would be shipped out by then, and the rest of the locker room would get back to doing what they do best. In the end it all boils down to him blowing a good opportunity in Ottawa, and whether he wants to earn that spotlight again, because if he screws up again, it may very well be his last shot going down the drain. I'm sure he knows that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 29, 2008 The thing is he's already hit the bottom, and if he wants to be a part of a successful hockey club anywhere, he needs to realize that he needs to change some things. If he comes here, he will be here as a backup, and pulling his s*** isn't going to do nearly the amount of damage as it did in Ottawa. First off, he officially has a history, so any team (not just the Wings) will be much more efficient to either whip him into shape or ship him out of town if he starts acting up. Secondly, a veteran, family-like team like the Wings wont be as phased if Emery tries to start something. There might be a couple games where everyone is a bit off, but like I said, Emery won't have the opportunity to singlehandedly derail the Wings' run for the cup. He would be shipped out by then, and the rest of the locker room would get back to doing what they do best. In the end it all boils down to him blowing a good opportunity in Ottawa, and whether he wants to earn that spotlight again, because if he screws up again, it may very well be his last shot going down the drain. I'm sure he knows that. We won't be able to ship him out. No team in the league wanted to claim him from waivers, because he's so much of a cancer. If the Wings got him we'd be stuck with him until his contract expires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 Yeah, because we really need someone who (allegedly) threatened to kill an elderly gentleman because he didn't like how he was driving. Emery's a thug, plain and simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) OK, if you think this is a stupid question, then it probably is, but I've never followed the contract parts of fandom until last summer when I joined here. It was just whomever was there, was there and I cheered for them. So here's the question: Can a team have some sort of a behaviour rider in a contract? In Emery's case, it might have to be on and off ice behaviour. Could the Wings have a stipulation that if, say, he gets arrested or if he fights a teammate that his contract would be void? Also, if a player is suspended from the team, how does that effect the cap? I don't want him. I'm just asking what is possible if the Wings do choose to take him. Edited June 30, 2008 by 55fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 I don't like Emery. He seems like a bit of a tosser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
octopusonice 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 I'm not a big fan of signing Emery. From what I have seen in professional sports, the notion that you can convert a cancer to a stand-up guy fails way more often than it succeeds. The Wings are successful enough and still have a good run for some more Cups in them without Emery, so there is no need to take such a big risk. I would be fine with Godzilla as a backup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 Because he'll be competing for a starter. In case you didn't get the memo, theyu're still not treating Ozzie as a starter. They're looking to have a goalie tandem. Who better to challenge for top spot with Ozzie than a veteran like Kolzig? Besides, all the quotes I've seen associate "veteran". I wouldn't call Emery a veteran yet. Isn't it like his 3rd year? Kolzig is the very definition of veteran. Kolzig-Osgood looks closest to Hasek-Osgood in terms of tandems out there, so I bet they go for him. Looks like you're the one who didn't get the memo, VM. According to Ken Holland, they're looking for someone to compete with HOWARD. Oz will get the bulk of the work, Holland has already stated that he knows Chris is good for 50-55 games, but after that, they want someone to pick up the additional 30+. From Holland's own mouth: "I'd like to think Jimmy Howard is ready to play some games. Is it 10 or 35? We need depth in goal. We need a No. 3, at worst, an NHL/minor league guy." If they're counting on a potential "#3" or "NHL/minor league guy" competing for the starting job, as you put it, then they'd be better off looking for a clear-cut starter, and having Chris Osgood challenge HIM for the starting role. The starter's job belongs to Oz. Howard will have to compete for the back-up job, if Holland goes out and signs a veteran. I don't know how much clearer this could be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 I don't like Emery. He seems like a bit of a tosser. My God, for some reason that made me bust out in laughter. I think in may have subconsciously reminded me of a movie.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiei 192 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 "I'd like to think Jimmy Howard is ready to play some games. Is it 10 or 35? We need depth in goal. We need a No. 3, at worst, an NHL/minor league guy." Uh, Adam Berkhoel anybody? Even McCollum if need be? Where's Larsson? We have Goaltending Depth enough. Emery or Kolzig would serve no less than to choke down the system! we even let go of Joe Mac which I still claim was a big mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 Uh, Adam Berkhoel anybody? Even McCollum if need be? Where's Larsson? We have Goaltending Depth enough. Emery or Kolzig would serve no less than to choke down the system! we even let go of Joe Mac which I still claim was a big mistake. Joey Mac was a mistake? Nope. And Berkhoel? He couldn't even steal the starting job from Jimmy in the minors and isn't even in the picture in terms of competition for a back-up job. McCollum will be playing college hockey. Larsson has never even played NA hockey. Hes GR bound to at the very least get accustomed to the intense schedule. Jimmy isn't going to be threatened by any of those guys and management likely wont even consider them for the job. The Wings will go out and get a vet whos looking to re-establish a career. Fortunately for the Wings, there are plenty of options out there who could likely accept minors time in order to get a chance at once again proving themselves in the NHL - let alone with the Red Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 The Wings will go out and get a vet whos looking to re-establish a career. Fortunately for the Wings, there are plenty of options out there who could likely accept minors time in order to get a chance at once again proving themselves in the NHL - let alone with the Red Wings. The best option for that boat would be Marc Denis. Secondly, you could instead go for someone like Raycroft or Jocelyn Thibault. Either way, you know what you're getting with all three of these guys, so I don't see any difference in any of them. Raycroft might have more potential because he's younger, but... well, you know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Production Line 1 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 I would rather have Emery or Raycroft, over Denis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selkie 10 Report post Posted June 30, 2008 If the substance abuse rumors are true, I can't see the Wings being serious about Emery. D Mac had done a lot for the team when Holland sent him to play elsewhere for that reason, and only asked him back when he had about five different players willing to vouch that he had made a real commitment to be clean and sober. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted July 1, 2008 Speaking of J Mac, whatever happened to Stefan Liv? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 1, 2008 Speaking of J Mac, whatever happened to Stefan Liv? We didn't sign him coz he sucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted July 1, 2008 Did we get him yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted July 1, 2008 I'm not a big fan of signing Emery. From what I have seen in professional sports, the notion that you can convert a cancer [/b]to a stand-up guy fails way more often than it succeeds. The Wings are successful enough and still have a good run for some more Cups in them without Emery, so there is no need to take such a big risk. I would be fine with Godzilla as a backup. I agree. He's a cancer. Ottawa was a machine on a huge roll. What stopped it? Cancer. And cancer spreads, no matter how strong a team is. Don't touch him. He made his bed, let him lye in it. There are enough "winners" out there, guys that will be devoted to the team, so there's no sense getting a bad apple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
