Todd Bertuzzi

[Spinner 6]

I have to admit, I was a little excited when I heard he was coming to Detroit. At the time we needed more physical play. He didn't give it, he has mellowed, whether it be from injuries, Moore incident or whatever, he is not the same as he used to be. It didn't bother me to see him leave. I wish him luck in Calgary, but I wouldn't want him back here

[Doggy 130]

Yes they do, otherwise they wouldn't be covering it on TV or on the Internet and hockey fans wouldn't read sources and journalist columns and the like from their site. The ridiculous hatred and bias against ESPN on this site continues to humor me every time. And before there are responses with, "Well are those the only standards that are needed to know hockey?" or "But so many other sources are better than them you dolt!" or "Why do you even watch ESPN?" I get it, so save your keystrokes on the typewriter.

Yuck! You're better than this SWF.

[egroen 384]

The Steve Moore thing was a tragic freak accident, and I think Bertuzzi has paid enough for it. He is definitely a shadow of his former self but Calgary got a good deal on him and it might work out for both.

Different times:

Eddie Shore did almost the same exact thing to Ace Bailey in 1933 (hit from behind leading to a fractured skull when he his head hit the ice), Bailey actually went into convulsions on the ice and almost died; his career was ended. A year later, both men met at center ice and shook hands before a game.

I always think of that every time I hear of Moore sueing everyone who was in the building that day.

Edited July 12, 2008 by egroen

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Yuck! You're better than this SWF.

Well, Terri Frei knows a few things about Todd Bertuzzi, otherwise he wouldn't have written this article explaining both the bad of him as well as the plusses that he still could bring given that he could still have a few years left in him if he can shake the injury bug, giving both a postiive and negative analysis of him. Todd Bertuzzi is a hockey player. Frei works for ESPN. That means somebody that works at ESPN probably knows a few things about hockey, maybe more.

Edited July 12, 2008 by SouthernWingsFan

[Doggy 130]

Well, Terri Frei knows a few things about Todd Bertuzzi, otherwise he wouldn't have written this article explaining both the bad of him as well as the plusses that he still could bring given that he could still have a few years left in him if he can shake the injury bug, giving both a postiive and negative analysis of him. Todd Bertuzzi is a hockey player. Frei works for ESPN. That means somebody that works at ESPN probably knows a few things about hockey, maybe more.

Nevermind. Maybe I could use smilies more but I thought you would've understood I was just playing.

[eva unit zero 271]

The Steve Moore thing was a tragic freak accident, and I think Bertuzzi has paid enough for it. He is definitely a shadow of his former self but Calgary got a good deal on him and it might work out for both.

Different times:

Eddie Shore did almost the same exact thing to Ace Bailey in 1933 (hit from behind leading to a fractured skull when he his head hit the ice), Bailey actually went into convulsions on the ice and almost died; his career was ended. A year later, both men met at center ice and shook hands before a game.

I always think of that every time I hear of Moore sueing everyone who was in the building that day.

The big difference? Shore apologized immediately after the game, and he was a major part of a benefit game organized in Bailey's honor; this is when the center ice handshake you refer to occurred. Bertuzzi has done nothing but deny wrongdoing and act as if he is the victim in the situation. Bertuzzi's actions have been disgusting. He has yet to acknowledge his plainly obvious intent to hurt Moore, and that his actions have ended Moore's potentially lucrative career.

Think about Claude Lemieux. Would he have been such a villian if he had stopped and helped Draper up and apologized right on the spot.

[egroen 384]

The big difference? Shore apologized immediately after the game, and he was a major part of a benefit game organized in Bailey's honor; this is when the center ice handshake you refer to occurred. Bertuzzi has done nothing but deny wrongdoing and act as if he is the victim in the situation. Bertuzzi's actions have been disgusting. He has yet to acknowledge his plainly obvious intent to hurt Moore, and that his actions have ended Moore's potentially lucrative career.

Think about Claude Lemieux. Would he have been such a villian if he had stopped and helped Draper up and apologized right on the spot.

Heh, Shore was no angel.

Bailey was in critical care and had two brain surgeries for a couple weeks so he certainly was not apoligized to after the game, and Shore never apologized after the game or implied he meant to hurt Bailey, and in fact, stated it was accidental.

The All-Star game and the Player's Union both came about as a direct result of Shore's less than honorable actions as a player and later an owner.

Bailey is the honorable one, not Shore. Bertuzzi has apologized... do you not recall the public crying scene? He has lost more than a million dollars from the incident, lost all his endorsements, was suspended, could not play overseas during the lockout, served probation, is still being sued by Moore and Moore's parents... who are suing almost everyone under the ceiling of the arena. Steve Moore is definitely no Ace Bailey, and Bertuzzi is not as reprehensible as Eddie Shore.

[Cern 0]

was suspended

Regardless of what some disillusioned people desperately want to believe, NO HE WASN'T.

Edited July 13, 2008 by Cern

[Echolalia 2,961]

Regardless of what some disillusioned people desperately want to believe, NO HE WASN'T.

I believe he was suspended for the remainder of that year, including the post season.

[Doc Holiday 0]

Regardless of what some disillusioned people desperately want to believe, NO HE WASN'T.

...Yes he was.

http://proicehockey.about.com/cs/nhlnotebo...tuzzisuspen.htm

[Doggy 130]

Regardless of what some disillusioned people desperately want to believe, NO HE WASN'T.

Lol. I gotta ask.

How does being banned for the remainder of a hockey season not mean suspension to you?

[Cern 0]

...Yes he was.

http://proicehockey.about.com/cs/nhlnotebo...tuzzisuspen.htm

Mar 30 2004

Ah yes, the iron arm of the law was truly swung down with great force on that one. That's like me committing a crime and the judge sentencing me to a year in prison, but there's a warden's strike after a month so I'm let free and told I served the entirety of my incarceration. The absolute best that could be said is that at least he didn't completely cheat out and go play in Europe during the lockout or something.

Edited July 13, 2008 by Cern

[egroen 384]

He was not allowed to play overseas during the lockout.

[chrisdetroit 189]

He was not allowed to play overseas during the lockout.

The suspension should have been for a full season DURING WHICH THE LEAGUE WAS IN OPERATION. He didn't play hocckey in the NHL for a full year but nobody else did either. How is that a punishment. His suspension should have been moved to the next season.

This was easliy the most ridiculous part of the entire incident.

[NomadFromKazoo 42]

We are generally a classy organization, but unfortunately Bertuzzi wasn't unique. We signed Hatcher and sure sounded darn close to signing Dirty Eddie. How you win does matter, I wish we wouldn't sign those players ever. With Bertuzzi, the problem with him going to Calgary is now he's on a team of thugs. He's on the downslope as a player, but as a thug? I'm sure he can still hold his own. The Sharks took them out in the end, but they were the thugs they always are and the NHL's consistently demonstrated they are just not interested in doing anything real to stop it.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

The Moore Incident is unforgivable. Period.

Why? What happened?

Edited July 13, 2008 by GMRwings1983

[Guest Dump-N-Thump]

Why? What happened?

i heard More got some stiff head from Tuzzi.

[Doc Holiday 0]

Ah yes, the iron arm of the law was truly swung down with great force on that one. That's like me committing a crime and the judge sentencing me to a year in prison, but there's a warden's strike after a month so I'm let free and told I served the entirety of my incarceration. The absolute best that could be said is that at least he didn't completely cheat out and go play in Europe during the lockout or something.

So because he didn't play the rest of the season or be allowed to play overseas in the lockout, you mean to tell me there was no suspension or punishment?

[Doc Holiday 0]

The suspension should have been for a full season DURING WHICH THE LEAGUE WAS IN OPERATION. He didn't play hocckey in the NHL for a full year but nobody else did either. How is that a punishment. His suspension should have been moved to the next season.

This was easliy the most ridiculous part of the entire incident.

A lot of people played during the lockout, just not for the NHL.

[zata40 3]

Why? What happened?

[Doggy 130]

Why? What happened?

WTF? Serious?

[Echolalia 2,961]

Why? What happened?

Nobody remembers anymore. Just remember to hate Bertuzzi with a passion no matter where he goes and what he does.

[miller76 463]

Bert has always been a piece of s***, and probably always will. I couldn't believe it when Detroit picked him up. He was worthless when he played in Detroit, and I was happy to see him go. I like Cheli too much to have Bert on this team. I am glad he will be playing in Calgary, being that thw Wings face them semi-regularly. I want to see Downey rip his face off and wear it for halloween!

[Doggy 130]

Nobody remembers anymore. Just remember to hate Bertuzzi with a passion no matter where he goes and what he does.

My memory is pretty average I'll admit, but I could swear this began well before he bulldogged Moore.

[Echolalia 2,961]

My memory is pretty average I'll admit, but I could swear this began well before he bulldogged Moore.

Definitely, although before the Moore incident, for me personally, at least, I hated Bertuzzi because he was such a good stick handler, as well as such a big body that he could skate into opposing team's zones with opposing defensmen unable to strip the puck from him, or at the very least check him off of it. In addition to that, he was an enforcer. Essentially he was the bully of the nhl with a beautiful scoring touch, but if he came to the Wings during that time, I would've been ecstatic.