Schneider waived by Ducks/traded to Atlanta.

[Guest mindfly]

It's just wrong to use the word superior when talking about wings... "slightly a bit better in everything" is probably closer to the truth.

Edited September 19, 2008 by mindfly

[edicius 3,269]

if he gets rid of one of them i will die a thousand deaths then go on a heated anti burke rampage of doom

I'm officially rooting for Pahlsson or Beauchemin to get traded.

You know I'm the president of the Burkie fan club, right?

[bellarina 1]

Awww come on neverforgetmac25 and Eva, I was enjoying your discussion.

And

I have to say, I'm buying in to Macs arguement more...sorry eva.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Detroit ain't superior in any way, its the team with the least injuries and most luck that win games during regular season, then come playoff time it's mostly routine, and of course injuries.

I have no words. This is just......wow.

Awww come on neverforgetmac25 and Eva, I was enjoying your discussion.

And

I have to say, I'm buying in to Macs arguement more...sorry eva.

Were you really? I know I was getting bored and I was involved in it.

[T.Low 1,011]

Detroit ain't superior in any way, its the team with the least injuries and most luck that win games during regular season, then come playoff time it's mostly routine, and of course injuries.

Of course! Detroit has just been very lucky for the last 17 FRIKIN YEARS!!!

[Konnan511 1,736]

Of course! Detroit has just been very lucky for the last 17 FRIKIN YEARS!!!

I'd say longer than that, there were 3 more teams in front of us when we drafted Stevie .

[Opie 308]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=Ahsp...p&type=lgns

Selanne signs try out contract.

ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP)—Teemu Selanne has signed a tryout agreement with the Anaheim Ducks while negotiations continue on a standard contract for the 10-time All-Star forward.

The Ducks’ career scoring leader will join the team for training camp and is expected to be on the ice on Saturday for drills. The 38-year-old free agent’s signing has been delayed because the Ducks are $3 million over the $56.7 salary cap.

Selanne and defenseman Scott Niedermayer missed part of last season, with both sitting out to consider retiring before deciding to return. Selanne played in 26 games and had 12 goals and 11 assists.

He has 325 goals and 689 points with Anaheim, and his overall total of 552 goals ranks fourth among active players.

Edited September 19, 2008 by Opie

[Dabura 12,232]

It's just wrong to use the word superior when talking about wings... "slightly a bit better in everything" is probably closer to the truth.

Who...are you?

[Doggy 130]

Who...are you?

Yeah really. He's pretty clueless.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Someone else is gonna end up being waived or traded from Duckland, methinks it's could be Sammy Pahlsson. Yup, Burkie would be that stupid again.

[eva unit zero 271]

Someone else is gonna end up being waived or traded from Duckland, methinks it's could be Sammy Pahlsson. Yup, Burkie would be that stupid again.

Sammy Pahlsson

Elite defensive forward, plays on third line, cap hit under $1.5m. Swedish.

Todd Marchant

Good defensive forward, plays on fourth line, cap hit over $2.5m. Canadian.

I wonder what the deciding factor is that makes it Pahlsson that Burke is rumored to be looking at trading?

[CopenhagenWing 38]

^Don't forget that Burke contends Pahlsson is from Red Deer.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Sammy Pahlsson

Elite defensive forward, plays on third line, cap hit under $1.5m. Swedish.

Todd Marchant

Good defensive forward, plays on fourth line, cap hit over $2.5m. Canadian.

I wonder what the deciding factor is that makes it Pahlsson that Burke is rumored to be looking at trading?

Normally I'd agree. But never underestimate the stupidity of the man who let go Bryzgalov and Schneider in exchange for nothing.

Am I missing something? Were the Ducks unable to trade Bryz (large contract, injuries, ect.) or did they just place him on waivers after deeming Hiller ready for the number 2 job?

[daniel1 32]

I'm really not sure how much the Quackers have to shed in salary in order to sign Selanne. According to nhlnumbers.com they are only over by 1.3mil but according to nhlscap.com they are 3mil over. If indeed it is 3mil that they are over and Schnieds clears waivers and is then claimed on the way back up I think they are responsible for half his salary still. If that half counts against the cap then they are STILL over and can't sign Teemu which would force them to trade/waive someone else to get under by enough to add his 500k and be under the cap for the start of the season. I would love to see the rest of the NHL stick it to Burke and simply refuse to deal with him at all. This might give Toronto an indication of what's in store for them if they hire this meatball.

[T.Low 1,011]

What's a Teemu, anyway?

[Zion 93]

Just when I think this year can't get any better!

[eva unit zero 271]

I'm really not sure how much the Quackers have to shed in salary in order to sign Selanne. According to nhlnumbers.com they are only over by 1.3mil but according to nhlscap.com they are 3mil over. If indeed it is 3mil that they are over and Schnieds clears waivers and is then claimed on the way back up I think they are responsible for half his salary still. If that half counts against the cap then they are STILL over and can't sign Teemu which would force them to trade/waive someone else to get under by enough to add his 500k and be under the cap for the start of the season. I would love to see the rest of the NHL stick it to Burke and simply refuse to deal with him at all. This might give Toronto an indication of what's in store for them if they hire this meatball.

Schneider has not been sent to the minors. Re-entry waivers happen when you are recalled from the minors, if you are required to pass through them. The Ducks, given their cap space issues, do not consider re-entry waivers an option with regards to Schneider and do not plan to send him to the minors, as per statements made by Burke.

[MacK_Attack 108]

Sammy Pahlsson

Elite defensive forward, plays on third line, cap hit under $1.5m. Swedish.

Todd Marchant

Good defensive forward, plays on fourth line, cap hit over $2.5m. Canadian.

I wonder what the deciding factor is that makes it Pahlsson that Burke is rumored to be looking at trading?

Marchant has a no-trade clause and is American.

[Duck Guy 86]

What's a Teemu, anyway?

haha nvm...

Edited September 22, 2008 by Duck Guy

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

What's a Teemu, anyway?

I hear it's paired with a certain lunch meat.

[eva unit zero 271]

Marchant has a no-trade clause and is American.

You're right, he is American. My mistake.

As for the NTC...I did not know that. That still doesn't prevent the Ducks from waiving him for the cap space.

[edicius 3,269]

Schneider has not been sent to the minors. Re-entry waivers happen when you are recalled from the minors, if you are required to pass through them. The Ducks, given their cap space issues, do not consider re-entry waivers an option with regards to Schneider and do not plan to send him to the minors, as per statements made by Burke.

Now, I'm curious...Schneider is waived...so does that mean Anaheim (as of right now) is or isn't on the hook for his salary, since he wasn't claimed?

I mean, I would assume that since Schneider hasn't been claimed (and that Burke is trying to reassess his trade options, which have probably gotten slimmer), the Ducks are still responsible for his salary, cap hit and all, and that he's still essentially on the team roster.

Burke's deadline for getting his team under the cap is approaching quickly (about two and a half weeks until the regular season begins) and I'd just LOVE to see the league have to take over the operations of the team to get them under the cap. You can be absolutely certain that would mean no accounting of any room for Selanne (unless the league really IS in Burke's pocket ).

[edicius 3,269]

I'm really not sure how much the Quackers have to shed in salary in order to sign Selanne. According to nhlnumbers.com they are only over by 1.3mil but according to nhlscap.com they are 3mil over. If indeed it is 3mil that they are over and Schnieds clears waivers and is then claimed on the way back up I think they are responsible for half his salary still. If that half counts against the cap then they are STILL over and can't sign Teemu which would force them to trade/waive someone else to get under by enough to add his 500k and be under the cap for the start of the season. I would love to see the rest of the NHL stick it to Burke and simply refuse to deal with him at all. This might give Toronto an indication of what's in store for them if they hire this meatball.

As NFM25 pointed out to me earlier, NHLSCap.com is calculating with the assumption that Bobby Ryan will be on the roster. If you remove Ryan's cap hit, they're at $1.3M over.

[eva unit zero 271]

Now, I'm curious...Schneider is waived...so does that mean Anaheim (as of right now) is or isn't on the hook for his salary, since he wasn't claimed?

I mean, I would assume that since Schneider hasn't been claimed (and that Burke is trying to reassess his trade options, which have probably gotten slimmer), the Ducks are still responsible for his salary, cap hit and all, and that he's still essentially on the team roster.

Burke's deadline for getting his team under the cap is approaching quickly (about two and a half weeks until the regular season begins) and I'd just LOVE to see the league have to take over the operations of the team to get them under the cap. You can be absolutely certain that would mean no accounting of any room for Selanne (unless the league really IS in Burke's pocket ).

Schneider's salary is still the Ducks' responsibility. However, if the Ducks cannot find a taker, as he has now cleared waivers, they can send him to the minors without concern as the cap deadline is within the 30-day window of his waiver date. So look for a Selanne contract soon, and if there is no Schneider trade, he will be sent to the minors regardless of what Burke previously claimed because that is what Burke has to do to field the best roster. He won't be called up and lost on re-entry waivers; he will play in the minors until the end of the season or until traded.

[thedisappearer 291]

Schneider's salary is still the Ducks' responsibility. However, if the Ducks cannot find a taker, as he has now cleared waivers, they can send him to the minors without concern as the cap deadline is within the 30-day window of his waiver date. So look for a Selanne contract soon, and if there is no Schneider trade, he will be sent to the minors regardless of what Burke previously claimed because that is what Burke has to do to field the best roster. He won't be called up and lost on re-entry waivers; he will play in the minors until the end of the season or until traded.

That's insanity.