MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 He is apparently going to wait-and-see until November or December. If the Leafs are in last place, he'll retire, but if they're in the playoff race, he'll likely come back. (So basically, he's going to retire) In the end, it looks like he will only play for the Leafs. He hasn't been able to get past his loyalty and has told his friends that he just can't play for another team. This is all according to Darren Dreger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saran 1 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 november-december seems abit early to judge if a team is playoff worthy or not. but then again it is the maple leafs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 november-december seems abit early to judge if a team is playoff worthy or not. but then again it is the maple leafs. It's going to be painfully obvious very quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted September 25, 2008 Sounds like he's pulling a Forsberg, except he's healthy. I think it's pretty pathetic he'd let the rest of the team play a grueling season while he sits from the sidelines and either retires or reaps their rewards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cern 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 Talk about anticlimactic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 Let him do what he wants I guess... it's his life. The drama was 99% manufactured by an intensely bored Canadian hockey media this summer. I'm not sure it's all that fair to the other Leafs players, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 Sun-who? Sun-DONE. Anyone else have any puns? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 What a flake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 I'm not sure it's all that fair to the other Leafs players, though. Then again, management's probably told him something along the lines of "It wouldn't be fair to them if you stay." Meh, who cares at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincanni 1 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 I seriously could not care any less. Claude Lemieux's return interests me more than this circus Sundin's dragged the media through all summer long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 Didn't he JUST say las year that he didn't want to be a rental player, because he wanted to be a part of the team the whole year, because the season is such a grind? Wouldn't this be the same thing? Way to go Sundin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller76 463 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 I am totally over this topic. I am not sure who is more frustrating, him or the media. I think he needs to sign or retire,so the league, and these teams that have wasted their summer can go on about trying to pick up whats left and set their rosters. I guess thats just mainly Vancouver though right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruiser008 37 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) If he waits long enough wouldn't a contender be able to fit him in under the salary cup if he does decide to come back? Edited September 25, 2008 by Cruiser008 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincanni 1 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 Actually to be fair to Sundin I feel this retirement fiasco has mostly been the media's fault. I even remember seeing "Sundin to Canucks" as a front page headline on yahoo.ca, no the sports section but the main front page. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12Newf 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 i thought for sundin the mindset was "i dont want to be a rental player and only play half the season. i would never join a team partway through a season because i want to be there from beginning to end." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 If he waits long enough wouldn't a contender be able to fit him in under the salary cup if he does decide to come back? If he is truly intent on winning a Cup, then any team that has a roster spot for him can fit him in if he is willing to sign for the necessary amount of money. The Wings could waive Tomas Kopecky or Aaron Downey and sign Sundin at their salary right now if Sundin were willing. He could sign for the league minimum with any team of his choice if he wanted to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 So we probably have already seen Sundins last game by the sounds of it, quite a shame considering I truly believed he would be back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 He is the Teemu of the 08/09 season...except he had a long offseason O.o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soultrain 43 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 well he can just go f. off! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 He is the Teemu of the 08/09 season...except he had a long offseason O.o A week longer than Teemu's most recent off-season. Zing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 A week longer than Teemu's most recent off-season. Zing! ouch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 This is strange to me. I remember last season a lot of the fuss about Sundin not waving his no-trade clause, on top of not wanting to leave the Leafs, was that he wouldn't want to join a team set up for a cup at the end of the season he would want to be a part of the whole thing. Now, if this is true, and it could be speculation, that would be a pretty lame move ala Forberg, Neidermeyer, etc. I personally think he is done, but is stuck not wanting to play or announce his retirement, so instead of burning out so-to-speak, he is just kinda fading away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 Not being able to get passed is loyalty and join another tream is something to be admired. Sitting on the sidelines using the Leafs success or lack thereof to determine whether you'll play is pathetic. What a flake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) another Niedermayer/Forsberg like player? I lost a lot respect for him. EDIT: Leafs and the playoffs... ? you're sure we're refering to the right Toronto team? wasn't it supposed to be Marlies? Edited September 25, 2008 by akustyk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 I respect his loyalty but if he wants to play for the Leafs just start from the beginning of the season dont be a part-timer, finish your career and go out in a respectable way, full season, win or lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites