Leino and Ericsson sent to Grand Rapids

[96warrior 11]

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Leino and Ericsson sent down

Ken Holland just said that the Red Wings have assigned Ville Leino and Jonathan Ericsson to Grand Rapids.

[Reds4Life 51]

That sucks. Leino was much better than Kirk freakin' Maltby or Tomas 'Softie' Kopecky. That's jut not fair.

And Helm was sent to GR too..that's just great

Edited October 7, 2008 by Reds4Life

[Opie 308]

That sucks. Leino was much better than Kirk freakin' Maltby or Tomas 'Softie' Kopecky. That's jut not fair.

And Helm was sent to GR too..that's just great

Damn it another year with out any thing to root for, that's just great!

[FinRedWing 172]

Well I guess this is perfectly understandable since Howard and D-Mac can't be sent down at the moment.

Edited October 7, 2008 by FinRedWing

[Mickeyisms Rule! 0]

That sucks. Leino was much better than Kirk freakin' Maltby or Tomas 'Softie' Kopecky. That's jut not fair.

And Helm was sent to GR too..that's just great

As a proud holder of 10 flex tickets for Grand Rapids Griffins games, let me thank Kenny Holland for giving me something to watch!

[Reds4Life 51]

Damn it another year with out any thing to root for, that's just great!

Yeah that's exactly what I wrote. Man you are so fookin' annoying it's not even funny.

[clutchngrab 12]

Thats too bad. Leino belongs in the NHL based on his skill level. Helm belongs based on his speed.

[Mickeyisms Rule! 0]

Yeah that's exactly what I wrote. Man you are so fookin' annoying it's not even funny.

Someone pee in your Cheerios this morning?

When you are the GM, please feel free to get rid of all of our veterans in favor of whoever you feel skates fast and is the new flavor of the month. Until then, quit your crying. If you really want something to ***** about, start rooting for the Blue Jackets or the Blues.

[Superman54 91]

Ow well, still more to come from these guys

[Reds4Life 51]

Someone pee in your Cheerios this morning?

When you are the GM, please feel free to get rid of all of our veterans in favor of whoever you feel skates fast and is the new flavor of the month. Until then, quit your crying. If you really want something to ***** about, start rooting for the Blue Jackets or the Blues.

haha

yeah sorry I think Helm and Leino are better players than Maltby and Kopecky. Why would I need to be a GM to express my opinion on freakin message board? So calm down big boy

Edited October 7, 2008 by Reds4Life

[Opie 308]

Yeah that's exactly what I wrote. Man you are so fookin' annoying it's not even funny.

So aren't the posts about how to run the team, considering the people that are doing it do a damn fine job.

But oh well you are not the first and certainly won't be the last to call me annoying.

Oh and another thing you forgot in your so eloquently worded Maltby and Kopecky comparison to Leino is money, Leino will make 375,000 more than Kopecky and as we all know when healthy the Wings are over the cap, but you thought about that I am sure. It is just that your like or dislike of certain players must have more weight in your mind!

Edited October 7, 2008 by Opie

[Mickeyisms Rule! 0]

haha

yeah sorry I think Helm and Leino are better players than Maltby and Kopecky.

You're allowed to be wrong.

As it stands now you are looking at their potential and saying that it has come to fruition. While they stand the chance of being better hockey players than the 2 you mentioned, they aren't there yet.

They'll both get called up before the end of the season. Maybe just for injury stints or after the roster limit changes towards the end of the season.

They're not going to rot and go bad playing in GR. They might even get better.

Helm needs to work on keeping possession of the puck when he is skating and Leino needs to work on protecting himself and the puck. Especially in Leino's case, learning how to protect himself in the corners and near the wall may be more important to the longevity of his career in the NHL then making the big team right out of his first camp.

(edited for typo)

Edited October 7, 2008 by Mickeyisms Rule!

[seeinred 1,488]

That sucks. Leino was much better than Kirk freakin' Maltby or Tomas 'Softie' Kopecky. That's jut not fair.

And Helm was sent to GR too..that's just great

I can't believe you actually wanted another Finn on the Wings roster

This isn't what I was hoping to hear about Leino, but hopefully he'll get his shot soon.

[Mors 201]

I don't really understand why Kopecky has earned an automatic spot on the roster...must be his epic toughness and huge 12 points in 77 games last season.

[KrazyGangsta 79]

Leino did play amazing ... but it is only pre-season, there probably going to make him play some games in GR then middle of year bring him up for a couple of games ... and eventually make the team at the end of season ... knowing kopecky he will be injured in january

[ben_usmc 253]

You're allowed to be wrong.

As it stands now you are looking at their potential and saying that it has come to fruition. While they stand the chance of being better hockey players than the 2 you mentioned, they aren't there yet.

They'll both get called up before the end of the season. Maybe just for injury stints or after the roster limit changes towards the end of the season.

They're not going to rot and go bad playing in GR. They might even get better.

Helm needs to work on keeping possession of the puck when he is skating and Leino needs to work on protecting himself and the puck. Especially in Leino's case, learning how to protect himself in the corners and near the wall may be more important to the longevity of his career in the NHL then making the big team right out of his first camp.

(edited for typo)

agreed, plus Leino and Helm aren't the types of players to replace Maltby and Kopecky(who actually played fine until his injury). Helm you MAY say he is close but still is more like Draper, and Leino I suppose would be more like a Sammy. You replace players of certain positions with the same type of player; in a successful organization, not just replace checkers with shooters. We all want to see them up, we all know Chelios, and Maltby need to retire but it's not happening this year.

[union drone 0]

I don't really understand why Kopecky has earned an automatic spot on the roster...must be his epic toughness and huge 12 points in 77 games last season.

It could be the "he's best friends with Hossa" factor.

[Konnan511 1,736]

Hopefully once everyone is healthy and able to be re-assigned to the right places, leino will get activity duty on the WIngs roster, or at least i suspect so will be the case.

[Opie 308]

I don't really understand why Kopecky has earned an automatic spot on the roster...must be his epic toughness and huge 12 points in 77 games last season.

While I agree one of the words from the bolded sentence happened, both couldn't. Either he earned his spot or was automatically given one. Either way that means in the mind of his Stanley cup winning coach, who posted back to back to back 50 win seasons, he was worth the roster spot.

He was the Wings leading hitter last year, maybe, just maybe, Babs is thinking that while Hossa replaced Drake's spot on the roster he didn't take his role and Babs wants a forward to chase down D-men like Drake did. Instead of a Draper clone (compliment to Helm) or Leino who for all intents and purposes seems to be Sammy's replacement next year.

Babs has come out and publicly said that Leino needs to work on using his body and going to the net, Leino admitted that going to the net in the NA rink is very different and much more important than in the Euro rink. A skill Flip had trouble with until last season (not a shot against him just stating it).

But you are right the spot was just handed to him because hey why not, it isn't like they are trying to win or anything!

Edited October 7, 2008 by Opie

[Guest E_S_A_D]

Fantastic news and yes I am serious. Leino has no business being with the Red Wings right now. Yes, he can skate pretty and do cute moves. However, you're forgetting one key thing... IT WAS PRESEASON HOCKEY- he wasn't being pressed defensively like he will be. I think he WILL be a 20+ NHL Goal Scorer, but he needs some real North American conditioning in the AHL First.

Also, this clears up a much needed roster spot for Downey after he clears waivers.

Downey > Leino, McCarty, Ericsson combined as far as the 2008 Detroit Red Wings TEAM is concerned.

[cnot19 191]

Fantastic news and yes I am serious. Leino has no business being with the Red Wings right now. Yes, he can skate pretty and do cute moves. However, you're forgetting one key thing... IT WAS PRESEASON HOCKEY- he wasn't being pressed defensively like he will be. I think he WILL be a 20+ NHL Goal Scorer, but he needs some real North American conditioning in the AHL First.

Also, this clears up a much needed roster spot for Downey after he clears waivers.

Downey > Leino, McCarty, Ericsson combined as far as the 2008 Detroit Red Wings TEAM is concerned.

I have to agree with you. Leino said he is commited to playing in North America and learning the game. I became a fan of him this preseason, but give him some time hell be needed next year. Downey brings an element that is needed. How much will a guy like leino add on the ofurth line? I d rather see him and helm log serious mins in GR. Ericcson also can stay another season in GR even though I think he's ready, but once again hes another player wel need next year. As far as this year there is no question downey is the one most needed.

Edited October 7, 2008 by cnot19

[FinRedWing 172]

Well,hopefully Leino wants to play serious minutes in GR (instead of coming back)

[elriqo28 2]

Someone pee in your Cheerios this morning?

When you are the GM, please feel free to get rid of all of our veterans in favor of whoever you feel skates fast and is the new flavor of the month. Until then, quit your crying. If you really want something to ***** about, start rooting for the Blue Jackets or the Blues.

I love it...preaseason ***** fest. But,no, really I agree. I think the GM who has won 4 cups in his tenure here, maybe, just maybe, has an idea of what to do to keep the team winning.

[up2here 41]

My question is this: They pulled Quincey off the ice this morning because of the possibility of a trade. If he gets traded who gets called up? Leino or Ericsson?

Edited October 7, 2008 by UP2HERE

[Heaton 1]

Mike Babcock raved about Leino's skill, and there's no question he'll be with the Wings sooner or later this season.

"This is the best player I’ve been involved in sending to the minors, I can tell you that," Babcock said. "He’s got a nose for the net, goes to the net, dominant on the cycle, makes great passes. He’s a Red Wings type player. Leino, I think he's going to be a scoring machine."