T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) OK, you guys are right. I've alwasy admired Jerome Iginla and was somehwat suprised by the comments on this board about his antics. He's obviously highly skilled, and he'll drop the gloves. Tonite, he got mowed over by one of the Canucks; mowed over big time. He gets up and looks at the ref with his hands out like "WTF, Ref?" I could almost hear the "Whaa". Getting no response from the ref pisses him off so he goes and hits two guys in a row and gets an interference penalty, already down 3-0 late in the second. I just can't see Datsyuk or Zetterberg doing that. First game of the season and he's already loosing his cool. C'mon, Jerome. Edited October 10, 2008 by T.Low Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 You mean you weren't convinced after his antics in Game 5 of the opening round in '07? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 what Iggy is awesome... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 ''We weren't very good,'' said Flames captain Jarome Iginla. ''We didn't respond. They outcompeted us tonight. ''We weren't as disciplined as we should have been later. At the same time, they were better than us in the second and third.'' http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=252158 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 He has always been like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 He's a piece of s*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 This isn't exactly a secret Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILSWATERBOY 10 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 what Iggy is awesome... Iggies a piece of crap, I do not care how much talent you have after that crap back in 07 I lost any respect that I had for the hack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 I'm sorry, but I just don't see what the big deal is with what Iginla did in '07. It's not like he cross checked a guy to the head and it wasn't much of a cross check either anyway. This is hockey after all. The thing is, I think he does get a little too hot headed sometimes and if you take a run at him, he's coming back looking for you to do some damage. I don't have a huge problem with that, usually it's some other guy that goes and does that for your star player. Take the Pens vs Sens game last weekend. I can't remember the players other than a Pens player running over Alfie...it was a good clean hit...and then a Sens player comes and runs over the Pens player (completely after the play). The Sens guy took a penalty for it, but that announcers were just praising the guy so much for doing that. I think Jarome needs to stick to playing hockey and being physical, but leave all the other stuff out, however, I don't fault him too much for stuff like that, there is a hell of a lot of guys in the league that do far, far worse things. (anyone ever heard of Gordie Howe?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Hey Iginla, how's that Stanley cup ring feeling? Oh, what's that, you've never won?!?! Yeah, that's cause you're a ****** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted October 10, 2008 I'm sorry, but I just don't see what the big deal is with what Iginla did in '07. It's not like he cross checked a guy to the head and it wasn't much of a cross check either anyway. This is hockey after all. The thing is, I think he does get a little too hot headed sometimes and if you take a run at him, he's coming back looking for you to do some damage. I don't have a huge problem with that, usually it's some other guy that goes and does that for your star player. Take the Pens vs Sens game last weekend. I can't remember the players other than a Pens player running over Alfie...it was a good clean hit...and then a Sens player comes and runs over the Pens player (completely after the play). The Sens guy took a penalty for it, but that announcers were just praising the guy so much for doing that. I think Jarome needs to stick to playing hockey and being physical, but leave all the other stuff out, however, I don't fault him too much for stuff like that, there is a hell of a lot of guys in the league that do far, far worse things. (anyone ever heard of Gordie Howe?) It wasn't a big deal at all Toby. Frankly, that's how some players play and I for one love those kinds of players. The problem is that we have too many candy ass Wings fans around here that want to whine and cry whenever somebody so much as farts in one of our players' direction. Some Wings fans around here are such spoiled little babies I wish somebody would steamroll right over them and shut them the hell up. Bunch of whiny babies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) OK, you guys are right. I've alwasy admired Jerome Iginla and was somehwat suprised by the comments on this board about his antics. He's obviously highly skilled, and he'll drop the gloves. Tonite, he got mowed over by one of the Canucks; mowed over big time. He gets up and looks at the ref with his hands out like "WTF, Ref?" I could almost hear the "Whaa". Getting no response from the ref pisses him off so he goes and hits two guys in a row and gets an interference penalty, already down 3-0 late in the second. I just can't see Datsyuk or Zetterberg doing that. First game of the season and he's already loosing his cool. C'mon, Jerome. My guess is you've never heard of Mark Messier. Seriously, what is it with this whining. Jerome is pretty much the only legitimate power forward still playing these days. At least he's the only one capable of bagging 90 points, drilling people and dropping the mits. So he got plowed over. Did he get up looking for a call because he thought the hit was illegal? Or did he get up wanting a call b/c he thinks he's too important to get hit? I doubt the latter is true. And who cares how Dats or Z conduct themselves on the ice? Leaders lead in different ways. Iggy is more like Messier. Dats, Lids, etc...are more like Stevie. Neither way can crown itself as the "standard" or "best" way to lead. This is hockey. Players lose their cool, especially when they're getting beat soundly. You act like this is either A) shocking to you, which go figure, this is fecking hockey for christ sake or B) that if you wear a "C" you have to tuck your tail between your legs and lose quietly and any emotional outburst or nasty play is just so horrifying your delicate sensibilities can't handle it. People need to get over what happened in 07. All people do is ***** and complain that the league is losing its toughness, becoming Eurofied, that the league is taking the hitting, the rivalries, the toughness out of the game. And then you come on here and whenever somebody gets tough with the Wings we act like a bunch of ******* babies about it. IT'S HOCKEY! IT'S EMOTIONAL! AND GODAMMIT IT'S MORE ENTERTAINING WHEN TEAMS HATE ON EACH OTHER! Bunch of pansies on this board this morning. WTF? Edited October 10, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Yeah I don't like Iginla. He is typical canadian dummy who cannot accept defeat and he does stupid things when trailing. I hope he never wins the Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) Yeah I don't like Iginla. He is typical canadian dummy who cannot accept defeat and he does stupid things when trailing. I hope he never wins the Cup. That's fair I suppose. I just disagree that what he does is "stupid". The game has a long history of players and teams getting nasty near the end of a game that they are soundly beaten. If this kind of thing bothers you, you must get upset with like 50 percent of the games and players in this league. What do you think of these "stupid" idiots running around picking fights simply b/c they were getting their asses handed to them? Yeah, who are those goddamned, stupid babies who give hockey a bad name: If I remember correctly all the Wings did was get pissed off that they were getting beat so they picked fights with unsuspecting Adam Hall everytime the Preds scored. Where's the outrage? Yes, there were other bouts during this game but these 2 in particular are no different than what people are condemning Iggy for. Edited October 10, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) That's fair I suppose. I just disagree that what he does is "stupid". The game has a long history of players and teams getting nasty near the end of a game that they are soundly beaten. If this kind of thing bothers you, you must get upset with like 50 percent of the games and players in this league. No. I don't mind some brawls and stuff. But I hate to see stuff like this: Ryan Smyth the Woodcutter or stuff that (canadian) goalie McLennan did to Mule in 07 playoffs. Iginla pretends to be nice guy off the ice and he is supposed to be great leader, all I see is insidious fooker. Edited October 10, 2008 by Reds4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Iginla isn't nearly as bad as Messier... Messier has pulled some rotten sh!t throughout his career. Sometimes that style works really well though to rally a team, but I definitely prefer the Yzerman style of captain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 That's fair I suppose. I just disagree that what he does is "stupid". The game has a long history of players and teams getting nasty near the end of a game that they are soundly beaten. If this kind of thing bothers you, you must get upset with like 50 percent of the games and players in this league. What do you think of these "stupid" idiots running around picking fights simply b/c they were getting their asses handed to them? Yeah, who are those goddamned, stupid babies who give hockey a bad name: If I remember correctly all the Wings did was get pissed off that they were getting beat so they picked fights with unsuspecting Adam Hall everytime the Preds scored. Where's the outrage? Yes, there were other bouts during this game but these 2 in particular are no different than what people are condemning Iggy for. Nothing wrong with sending the other team a message late in the game when you're getting beat. I totally agree. I think the tone of the original post is that Iginla, for whatever reason, can't seem to take a clean hit. And that is a part of his game he needs to improve on if he ever wants to win. It's no secret that personal sacrifice leads to winning. Players like Yzerman and Messier have showed us that. Team first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted October 10, 2008 No. I don't mind some brawls and stuff. But I hate to see stuff like this: Ryan Smyth the Woodcutter or stuff that (canadian) goalie MacLean did to Mule in 07 playoffs. Iginla pretends to be nice guy off the ice and he is supposed to be great leader, all I see is insidious fooker. I agree with that. What the Flames goalie did to Mule is not what I'm talking about. What happened to Mule isn't toughness. It's dangerous, stick swinging BS that doesn't belong in the game. Total agreement with you there. But alot of Wings fans are mad b/c Iggy took some shots at our guys and tried to fight people. Look at the OP, he started this thread b/c "Iggy got up and hit 2 players and took an interference call" Seriously? Give me a break already. Personally, when my team is getting its butt handed to them, i'd prefer we mix it up and try to give the other team something to think about and let them know we don't take losing kindly. I definitely prefer that to simply skating off the ice with your head down, looking defeated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Iginla isn't nearly as bad as Messier... Messier has pulled some rotten sh!t throughout his career. Sometimes that style works really well though to rally a team, but I definitely prefer the Yzerman style of captain. You are totally right. messier was one of the nastiest SOB's ever. You're also right that some teams need that kind of leader and some need an Yzerman type of leader. And that's cool if Yzerman's way is your preference. What pisses me off is that unlike yourself, many Wings fans around here think the ONLY way to lead is the Yzerman, Nick, Datsyuk way. They're convinced that's the only way to do it b/c they're homers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Nothing wrong with sending the other team a message late in the game when you're getting beat. I totally agree. I think the tone of the original post is that Iginla, for whatever reason, can't seem to take a clean hit. And that is a part of his game he needs to improve on if he ever wants to win. It's no secret that personal sacrifice leads to winning. Players like Yzerman and Messier have showed us that. Team first. Now see, I have never heard that? Is that true? I've heard it bandied about that Crosby can't take a hit and always looks for a call. I'd never heard that Iggy can't take a hit without being a baby about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stactum 4 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 I never really liked Iginla and thought that he is a complete moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Now see, I have never heard that? Is that true? I've heard it bandied about that Crosby can't take a hit and always looks for a call. I'd never heard that Iggy can't take a hit without being a baby about it. Well I think the scenario the original post referred to was that Iginla was hit, there was no call, and he retaliated; putting hid team on the PK. Iginla's not exactly the most disciplined player in hockey. I have no problem with him playing a nasty game like Messier, or for being physical. And I'm not anti-Iginla. But every player, no matter how good they are at doing what they do best, always have parts of their game that need work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 You are totally right. messier was one of the nastiest SOB's ever. You're also right that some teams need that kind of leader and some need an Yzerman type of leader. And that's cool if Yzerman's way is your preference. What pisses me off is that unlike yourself, many Wings fans around here think the ONLY way to lead is the Yzerman, Nick, Datsyuk way. They're convinced that's the only way to do it b/c they're homers. In the Ducks' Cup year they gooned it up at the end of every single losing game and often came out with fire the next. That team obviously responded very well to it... ironically, with the more classy Neidermayer as captain. Last year, with Pronger as captain, they rarely showed any of that passion as a team towards the end of a loss. With the Wings make up, if they tried to pull some thuggery at the end of a loss they would end up with their faces wiping the ice... so definitely not a good idea! I think the solution is to just never lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shannyfan1414 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 He is a dirty hockey player. I would have to say the team is just a bunch of goons for the most part. They lack discipline. 07 was the perfect example of that. I guess when you captain is a whiny bastard the rest of the team follows. Lead by example is they say and Jerome is a terrible example for his team. It's a shame to, because he is a very skilled player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Nothing wrong with sending the other team a message late in the game when you're getting beat. I totally agree. I think the tone of the original post is that Iginla, for whatever reason, can't seem to take a clean hit. And that is a part of his game he needs to improve on if he ever wants to win. It's no secret that personal sacrifice leads to winning. Players like Yzerman and Messier have showed us that. Team first. Exactly. Thansk for pinpointing the idea. I've always liked his combination of toughness and skill. But last night, already frustrated from getting creamed by the Canucks, he gets nailed by a clean hockey hit. If I remember correctly, he just got rubbed out big time against the boards. Point is that it was a clean hit. He went off on a hunting rampage, totally took him out of his game. He chased guys down and hit them late, not even making good contact but still trying to force the hit for retaliation sake, and just looked like an idiot. Yeah, I suppose that may be hockey, but its stupid hockey. If he would not have complained to the ref, but rather just lined up a well timed hit on some one or even hit the same guy that hit him, or even fought the same guy that hit him, there would be no post complaining about Iginla. But he ran around like a 5 year old having a melt down. I was actually hoping for good things from he and Bertuzzi on the same line, but now I just think they're both show too much whiner tendencies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
