CenterIce 83 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 I think Filppula set up Franzen pretty well last year, when they and Sammy played on a line. The only question mark about Filppula is his tendency to pass up a shot, but if you put Franzen and Hossa on a line with him, he won't have to worry about shooting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) Please, please, please, please stop saying have Flip center Hossa. Hossa's production goes down at least 30 points if he is centered by Flip and that is no exagerration. He doesn't have the playmaking abilities Datsyuk does to get Hossa the puck. Flip is a perfect third line center on this team. If Hossa leaves next year then perhaps Flip will get bumped up to the second line. Until then, Flip has no reason to be above the third line. Very few, if any, players have Datsyuk's play making abilities, but Flip can hold his own. He spends practices with Datsyuk learning all his tricks. Edited October 10, 2008 by CenterIce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Boring game last night. I don't like the style of game ML's played last night. How was that a boring game? There was a lot of end-to-end action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 the Wings defense looked lazy and uninterested. first game, no huge deal, but it still would have been nice to see the Wings come out firing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) The Wings looked good for the 1st few minutes of the game when they had some partial breakaways, hitting the post, cross bar, and etc. Then they fell apart, they miscued on outlet passes and clears. It was one game they and they did not play well, the Leafs deserved to win that game. With that being said, the Wings will need to study video's of the game, see where they went wrong and learn from their mistakes... If Hossa can be separated from Pavel and Hank while remaining productive, I say do it. But then the minutes issue comes into play like Heaton pointed out in another thread. See, this is why sometimes I think there is such a thing as "too much talet" on a team and it can alter the dynamics until the right fitment is found. This may be a long month. Edited October 10, 2008 by Rivalred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Very few, if any, players have Datsyuk's play making abilities, but Flip can hold his own. He spends practices with Datsyuk learning all his tricks. Spending practices with Datsyuk most certainly doesn't mean Filppula will ever be half the setup man Datsyuk is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) How was that a boring game? There was a lot of end-to-end action. I missed the first 10 minutes. There wasn't a lot of excitement in last nights game. Wings didn't appear to have their spark, though the play that landed Holmer's first goal was refreshing to see ... Hossa had a few nice shifts, but overall, the team just didn't seem to gel and the MLs took full advantage. I give credit to MLs, they beat the Red Wings and they deserve that W. Here is to better luck next game. :beerbuddy: EDIT: Did you see the Boston/Avs game last night? That was a hell of a game!!! Edited October 10, 2008 by MrSandMan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) Very few, if any, players have Datsyuk's play making abilities, but Flip can hold his own. He spends practices with Datsyuk learning all his tricks. That's great for Flip, but you aren't going to see it for a few years. He isn't that type of player yet, if he ever will be. You are kidding yourself if you think going from Datsyuk to Flip is not that big of a downgrade. It's a huge downgrade. He can certainly hold his own...on the third line, where he should be. Edited October 10, 2008 by dallas27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Putting Fillpulla on the same level as Dats is ridiculous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Filppula's no Dats,we all know that. It isn't Filppula's fault someone thinks he is,so bash the posters and not Val. Please,please,please,please stop. It's the first week of the season and it's already getting old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Filppula's no Dats,we all know that. It isn't Filppula's fault someone thinks he is,so bash the posters and not Val. Please,please,please,please stop. It's the first week of the season and it's already getting old. How is it bashing Flip if I am saying he is a perfect third line center on this team? Especially when I never doubt Flip's talent, it's just not all there yet. He's a 45 point guy. In the future he may be a 60 or 70 point guy. But as of now, he's an excellent defensive center and a perfect fit in the third line. Just because I don't think Flip's goal in the playoffs, when many compared it to Bobby freaking Orr's, vaulted him into superstar status doesn't mean I am bashing him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Filppula's no Dats,we all know that. It isn't Filppula's fault someone thinks he is,so bash the posters and not Val. Please,please,please,please stop. It's the first week of the season and it's already getting old. Hope I wasn't coming off as bashing Flip because I most certainly wasn't. Rather, we all know that Flip isn't the setup man Dats is and sticking Hossa with him makes no sense right now. That was my only point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 How is it bashing Flip if I am saying he is a perfect third line center on this team? Especially when I never doubt Flip's talent, it's just not all there yet. He's a 45 point guy. In the future he may be a 60 or 70 point guy. But as of now, he's an excellent defensive center and a perfect fit in the third line. Just because I don't think Flip's goal in the playoffs, when many compared it to Bobby freaking Orr's, vaulted him into superstar status doesn't mean I am bashing him. Touche,Sir! Hope I wasn't coming off as bashing Flip because I most certainly wasn't. Rather, we all know that Flip isn't the setup man Dats is and sticking Hossa with him makes no sense right now. That was my only point. You weren't at all. I overreacted to some other posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 I was bashing the poster......... If you saw any of my GDT posts from yesterday, you would know I love Flip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Why did Detroit lose? The trap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) I was bashing the poster......... If you saw any of my GDT posts from yesterday, you would know I love Flip I know. Sorry for the overreaction,folks. Back to topic: We did play quite badly,but we were also unlucky. Like people have mentioned a few bounces in our way in the 1st and it could've easily been a W. Edited October 10, 2008 by FinRedWing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Filppula's no Dats,we all know that. It isn't Filppula's fault someone thinks he is,so bash the posters and not Val. Please,please,please,please stop. It's the first week of the season and it's already getting old. Sorry Mrs. Filppula. We'll behave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 Sorry Mrs. Filppula. We'll behave. I know you will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 How is it bashing Flip if I am saying he is a perfect third line center on this team? Especially when I never doubt Flip's talent, it's just not all there yet. He's a 45 point guy. In the future he may be a 60 or 70 point guy. But as of now, he's an excellent defensive center and a perfect fit in the third line. Just because I don't think Flip's goal in the playoffs, when many compared it to Bobby freaking Orr's, vaulted him into superstar status doesn't mean I am bashing him. ...no comparison, Flips was better! Booby Orr (misspelled on purpose) was already celebrating his goal when he was tripped, Flip was vertical when he put the puck in the net. You're right it didn't make him a superstar, but it puts Orr's to shame... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 I know. Sorry for the overreaction,folks. Back to topic: We did play quite badly,but we were also unlucky. Like people have mentioned a few bounces in our way in the 1st and it could've easily been a W. Keep in mind it was the Leafs we were playing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 ...no comparison, Flips was better! Booby Orr (misspelled on purpose) was already celebrating his goal when he was tripped, Flip was vertical when he put the puck in the net. You're right it didn't make him a superstar, but it puts Orr's to shame... Yea, Bobby Orr's goal didn't win a Stanley Cup or anything...oh wait Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted October 10, 2008 I blame the terrorists for last night's loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted October 11, 2008 Yea, Bobby Orr's goal didn't win a Stanley Cup or anything...oh wait ...I didn't say it wasn't a big goal or a timely, important goal. I didn't say Flips was more important, but if you are ranking it on a highlight basis, Flips is a better goal that required more skill than just a tap in form a pass behind the net... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted October 11, 2008 I blame the terrorists for last night's loss. ...Al Qaida is just about as guilty for last nights loss as they are of 9/11... ...unless you are talking about the terrorists in Washington (or in this caser New York) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted October 11, 2008 I disagree that Hudler looked out of place on the 2nd line. In fact, I thought Hank was the one that looked out of place through the entire 1st period. That line started to come together in the 3rd period, but up until then, it was more or less pure individual efforts. I really think thats what this loss comes down to. When I was taking a shower this morning, I was thinking over the game the night before and all I could come up with was "what the f*** was that?" I have never seen the Wings look so unlike themselves. It was like watching a mediocre version of the All-Star game where the puck is a hot potato and the game is marked by great individual plays but nothing much of a team effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites