BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Okay, loyalty aside, with what we have in the system, how would you make the team better? Meaning who would you cut, who would you put in, and how would the line-up like after it's all said and done? Here's what I would like to do. Put Sammy on waivers (if it doesn't work out, buy him out) and replace him with Helm, scratch Maltby and replace him with Leino, and scratch Lebda or Chelios to put Ericsson in. I think our best possible line up could look like this... Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Holmstrom Franzen - Filppula - Hossa Cleary - Hudler - Leino (I don't exactly know for sure if Leino plays RW, but it could work out somehow) Helm - Draper - Kopecky Lidstrom - Rafalski Stuart - Kronwall Lilja - Ericsson I love Maltby to death, but his day has ended since post lockout. Sammy and Lebda I think could be replaced with better talent. However, in the real world, I know this can't happen, but IMO, this is the best possible line up we could use with what we have... and I think it looks damn good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbymaniac 13 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 dang i thought malts been looking good out there so far,but them young guys looking very hungry for a spot. to be honest it dont matter to me im always satisfied with who we have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arde16 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) Get Leino and Helm in the lineup, drop Kopecky and Hudler and mix the lines abit. I dont think Hudler is bringing much to the team honestly, and i prefer Maltby over Kopecky. And for the first post, Leino plays LW or center but i guess he could learn to play RW too! Edited October 18, 2008 by Arde16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Any lineup with Downey in it. 5 games and 0 fights is not a good reflection on our toughness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Any lineup with Downey in it. 5 games and 0 fights is not a good reflection on our toughness. You are 100% correct. The number of fights is not a good reflection of toughness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukownzU13 1 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Hossa - Filppula - Franzen Cleary - Helm - Leino/Sammy Hudler - Draper - Leino/Sammy Maltby Lidstrom - Rafi Stuart - Kronwall Lillypads - Ericsson Chelios Osgood Conkblock Maltby is an extra, rotate in Mac or Downs for specifically intense games . I hate Sammy as much as anyone can, but he's been far from the problem so far. Lebda just isn't a top-6 defenseman on an All-star calibre team (waive/trade). Kopecky has proved nothing at all. Edited October 18, 2008 by DatsyukownzU13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 You are 100% correct. The number of fights is not a good reflection of toughness. So what is? How many hits we take before a star player is layed out on a stretcher? If you saw a street fight you wouldnt say the person not fighting is the toughest because hes taking the hits. You'd say, wow that guys laid out. He should have hit back. Too late now. That moment will happen eventually this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManLuv4Clears 7 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 dang i thought malts been looking good out there so far,but them young guys looking very hungry for a spot. to be honest it dont matter to me im always satisfied with who we have. I have to agree, Malts has been throwing the weight and being a little bit of an agitator. I like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Hossa Holmstrom-Franzen-Cleary Helm-Filpula-Leino Maltby-Draper-McCarty/Downey Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Lilja Meech Osgood Conklin Too much skill, lots of grit. Kopecky, Samuelsson and Hudler for some skate sharpeners so Helm can go even faster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Systemfel 33 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Hossa Zetterberg - Datsyuk - HolmstromZ on the wing, why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babycks0612 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 any line with Maltby in it, hes been my fav for so many years I even named my dog after him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Hossa-Franzen-Cleary Helm-Filppula-Leino Maltby-Draper-McCarty/Downey Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Lilja Meech Osgood Conklin Even trade Hudler and Sammy for a decent player to fulfill a second line roll like Kesler and a round pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Z on the wing, why? I just like him on the wing. It could be him at center and Pavel at LW, as long as there on the same line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babycks0612 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 I still think no one is giving Hudler a chance but w/e, Yeah Kesler is a good hockey player but not a nice person at least from what I experienced, he needs to work on his manners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukownzU13 1 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Z on the wing, why? Wasn't Z the winger of that line last year more often than not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Wasn't Z the winger of that line last year more often than not? Nope. Z was in the middle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticWing 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 I know these lines will never happen, and most of you will probably think I have gone completely mad. But this is my honest opinion of the best possible line-ups. First of all, I want the old DZH line back. Franzen is a lock on second line wing, because I think he performs better as a winger. So I have this much figured out: Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Holmstrom ??????? - ?????????? - Franzen Next center for Franzens line, Hudler or Filppula? Filppula and Franzen have played well together past, so I chose Fil. And since Fil And Hossa have zero chemistry on ice, the winger is going to be Cleary or Leino. Choosing Leino would give better balance between lines, but Cleary is already a proven NHL:er. After these thoughts, the final set up ended looking like this, with Helm taking the roster spot from the one who doesn't perform, no matter who he his. Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Holmstrom Cleary - Filppula - Franzen Leino - Hudler - Hossa Maltby - Draper - Sammy Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Ericsson - Lilja Osgood Conklin opinions everybody have one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 I know these lines will never happen, and most of you will probably think I have gone completely mad. But this is my honest opinion of the best possible line-ups. First of all, I want the old DZH line back. Franzen is a lock on second line wing, because I think he performs better as a winger. So I have this much figured out: Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Holmstrom ??????? - ?????????? - Franzen Next center for Franzens line, Hudler or Filppula? Filppula and Franzen have played well together past, so I chose Fil. And since Fil And Hossa have zero chemistry on ice, the winger is going to be Cleary or Leino. Choosing Leino would give better balance between lines, but Cleary is already a proven NHL:er. After these thoughts, the final set up ended looking like this, with Helm taking the roster spot from the one who doesn't perform, no matter who he his. Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Holmstrom Cleary - Filppula - Franzen Leino - Hudler - Hossa Maltby - Draper - Sammy Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Ericsson - Lilja Osgood Conklin opinions everybody have one Horrid lines, Hossa needs second line minutes min, or else hes a waste Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Hudler - Datsyuk - Hossa Holmstrom - Zetterberg - Franzen Cleary - Filppula - Leino Helm/Maltby - Draper - Kopecky Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Ericsson - Lilja Osgood Conklin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Dats-Z-Franzen Homer-Flip-Hossa Huds-Helm-Leino Cleary-Draper-Sammy Lids-Raffy Kronner-Stuart Ericsson-Meech Lilja Ozzy Conklin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticWing 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) Horrid lines, Hossa needs second line minutes min, or else hes a waste Hossa needs to deserve second line minutes, or else hes a waste . You can switch second and third line if you like, but then Franzen is on the third line. Yes these are mad hatter lines, but not necessarily bad ones. And we will never see these lines, so no worries. Holmstrom - Zetterberg - Franzen Very interesting and fresh idea, might be worth a try. Edited October 18, 2008 by ArcticWing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Hossa needs to deserve second line minutes, or else hes a waste. You can switch second and third line if you like, but then Franzen is on the third line. Yes these are mad hatter lines, but not necessarily bad ones. And we will never see these lines, so no worries. Very interesting and fresh idea, might be worth a try. Because after all 4 games hes done something not to deserve them? hes been great in our own end, just hasnt found the back of the net... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArcticWing 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) Because after all 4 games hes done something not to deserve them? hes been great in our own end, just hasnt found the back of the net... I didn't say he was bad, I was just messing with you. He just doesn't click well Datsyuk. He would probably find easier playing with Hank. Realistic move would be switch Franzen and Hossa. I just have a soft spot for DZH line, that clouds my judgement sometimes. Edited October 18, 2008 by ArcticWing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Hudler - Datsyuk - Holmstrom Franzen - Zetterberg - Hossa Leino - Helm - Cleary Maltby - Draper - Samuelsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Questron 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2008 Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Holmstrom Franzen - Leino - Hossa Cleary - Filppula - Hudler Helm - Draper - Sammy Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Ericsson - Lilja Osgood Conklin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites