Franzen out 3-4 weeks; more tests Monday

[South Dakota wings fan 7]

I dont think its that. I think its more like whats gonna happen if we lose another top sixer on this road trip? If, say, Hank and Franzen are out, itd be best to have Leino available on the road trip just in case our offense takes a hit. If it were a bottom sixer, we might see a different call-up, but Leino makes the most sense on a road trip when our offense is the only thing winning us games right now..

It appears Leino has not yet been called up:

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20..._with_spra.html

[rage 24]

It appears Leino has not yet been called up:

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20..._with_spra.html

Yeah, that's pretty bad that we can't even call up Leino because of our cap issue.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

TBH, it could've been a lot worse. You never want to hear a guy like Franzen is going to be out around a months time, but that play could've resulted in something much more devastating.

[Yzermania 156]

Yeah, that's pretty bad that we can't even call up Leino because of our cap issue.

Yah it really sucks too because we are all starting to really like how Hossa is clicking with the team now and s*** like this makes it quite apparent that having him here more than this season is going to be near impossible.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

I dont think its that. I think its more like whats gonna happen if we lose another top sixer on this road trip? If, say, Hank and Franzen are out, itd be best to have Leino available on the road trip just in case our offense takes a hit. If it were a bottom sixer, we might see a different call-up, but Leino makes the most sense on a road trip when our offense is the only thing winning us games right now..

Yeah, true. Couldnt hurt to have some more offence in, espicially with Franzen out.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Horrible news, since he's probably been the hottest forward in the league since last March.

Who's the bastard on the replay that ran into him?

I want retaliation for the next game, whether it was intentional or not.

Oh brother. You're joking right? They didn't see each other until the last second and it was too late. Easily could've been Sopel that got hurt. If that were the case you'd be singing a different tune and wouldn't be clamoring for somebody to seek retribution on Franzen.

It was an accident.

Edited October 27, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[Heaton 1]

GMR beats people up for bumping into him in line at the bank.

[Nero 20]

Hopefully it is not serious and thankfully it came early in the season.

I don't see why people say things like this Having an injury earlier somehow prevents him from getting an injury in say.. April? (Knock on wood).

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

Oh brother. You're joking right? They didn't see each other until the last second and it was too late. Easily could've been Sopel that got hurt. If that were the case you'd be singing a different tune and wouldn't be clamoring for somebody to seek retribution on Franzen.

It was an accident.

So Sopel was the culprit. Thanks for telling me, since I didn't watch the game but only the replay.

I hope Sopel keeps his head up the next game, or else he'll run into the "PAIN TRAIN".

Oh, yes. There will be blood!

GMR beats people up for bumping into him in line at the bank.

I haven't done anything like that in a while.

[WingMachine91 0]

this could be a good thing, we know how good the mule is, but less game equals worse stats, equals better contract for us, and as long as hes healthy in april. its all that matters

[Datzooky 0]

So bummed.

[Echolalia 2,961]

Any updates on Franzen or Leino being called up or not?

[12Newf 0]

its time to send this mule to the glue factory. or if not we can put him out to stud so that 18 years from now we can have a whole stable of nhl superstars.

[LidstromIsASuperhero 29]

its time to send this mule to the glue factory. or if not we can put him out to stud so that 18 years from now we can have a whole stable of nhl superstars.

What the hell are you talking about? I mean, I understand the joke, but Mules are sterile. They can't be studs. And how could you hate Franzen?

[chrisdetroit 189]

I don't see why people say things like this Having an injury earlier somehow prevents him from getting an injury in say.. April? (Knock on wood).

No understanding of statistics and probability. It's a reflection of the dumbing down that has been going on in our school system for years....

This is the same reasoning that people use when gambling. After losing many times, they think that they are "due" to win when in fact the odds are the same each time whether you lose 100 in a row or win 100 in a row....

But I digress

[Frozen-Man 144]

No understanding of statistics and probability. It's a reflection of the dumbing down that has been going on in our school system for years....

This is the same reasoning that people use when gambling. After losing many times, they think that they are "due" to win when in fact the odds are the same each time whether you lose 100 in a row or win 100 in a row....

But I digress

Your analogy to gambling is not quite correct for example if you are flipping a coin and trying to get tails but you get heads 99 times, while it is true that you only have a 1/2 chance of it landing on tails you only have a 1^100 power chance of getting 100 heads in a row. Basically, while the odds don't change the number of possibilities increase. Someone may tear their ACL and later in the season their Achilles tendon and later in the season break your collar bone but the number of possibilities of all of that happening to one player are much less remote than any one of them.

Someone sent me some info regarding exactly how the probabilities work, here it is:

A chance of something happening

is, simply, the count (or total) of what is required as a ratio of all

possible outcomes.

When you reach the 7th throw, the chance of a head on that particular

throw is 1/2, and obviously that's because, for that throw only, a

head is the one result required out of 2 possible results - and that's

always the case for any particular throw.

So, what you may require from one throw is different from what you may

require from a series of throws. If we look at a series of throws:

For two throws, the reason why HH has a probability of 1/4 isn't

because we multiply 1/2 by 1/2 - that's just a method of counting. The

1/4 represents one required result (i.e. HH) from four possible

results (i.e. HH, HT, TH and TT).

If we throw the coin three times, the possible results are:

Three heads: 1 way

Two heads and one tail: 3 ways

Two tails and one head: 3 ways

Three tails: 1 way

Total: 8 ways

So the chances of getting three heads are 1/8 (and the method for

calculating this quickly is (1/2)^3). But note that there are 3 ways

of getting two heads and a tail, so the probability of this is 3/8.

You can count in this manner all the way up to seven throws and beyond

(if you have the time and patience to do it!) so that, for seven

throws, you get the possibility of:

7H: 1 way

6H and 1T: 7 ways

5H and 2T: 21 ways

4H and 3T: 35 ways

3H and 4T: 35 ways

2H and 5T: 21 ways

1H and 6T: 7 ways

7T: 1 way

Total: 128 ways

Finally, the chances for seven heads are the same if you throw a

single coin seven times, or if you throw seven coins at once, or seven

people each throw a single coin, or any other combination of seven

throws. That's because (as long as each throw is fair) the number of

possible outcomes is always 128, and the number of times you can get

seven heads is always one, so the probability of seven heads will

always be 1/128.