Capitals' Semin not Impressed by Crosby

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Look, Cosby is known for his great sitcome so fbulls***. And Crosby is known for his great skills and effort. So while I think Sidney is a little wuss, I think people should respect him a bit more fopr his skills, and he represents something exciting for the game that many teams don't because teh are too defensive minded like the Devils and LeMaire who f***ed up the game with his trap nonsaense. Its not his fault players today hide behind rules and the refs. Remember how bad Malkin's ass got kicked by the Wings? Wings could only contain Crosby for so long beause he's a good player, and even when the rest of the team sucks ass the good players osmehow find a way to score. As I said he may be a little baby and a wuss but he's still a good player.

Seconded. No denying that Sid is a great player. But was Wayne Gretzky marketed back in the day to the point where people would immediately turn the channel once an ad featuring him came on as such is the case with Sid? Every 10 seconds in the Finals, we'd hear "Crosby Crosby Crosby", even when the Wings shut out the Penguins in Games 1 and 2. I flipped the channel every Crosby commercial there was, and while I agree that he is an excellent marketing tool for the NHL, they need to start marketing other players like Thornton, Iginla, Ovechkin, Zetterberg, Lecavalier, as well as younger guys like Stamkos and Kane, rather than all Crosby all the time.

Edited November 1, 2008 by Hockeytown0001

[Guest mindfly]

wow.. i have a bit man love for semin now totally ace.

[Reds4Life 51]

Looks like this guy is trying to make a name for himself. Note to Alexander Semin:Your last name took care of that for you.

That's because you are unable to speak Russian and therefore you are unable to pronounce his name. Your inability to speak Russian is Semin's fault?

Semin is right imho, Crosby has talent, but he is incredibly boring player to watch. Not to mention his boring interviews.

Edited November 1, 2008 by Reds4Life

[Rick 42]

Crosby was tied for the playoff scoring race with Z, playing in 2 less games, you know? Oh yeah, he's 21!

Thats the same arguement pens fans were making on why crosby should have won the Conn Smythe over Zetterberg. They all spouted the same s***. Zetterberg got all his points against an injured Avs squad, crosby would have dominated that team. Zetterberg had 8 points in that sweep. crosby had 8 points against a sens team that wasn't very healthy and also resulted in a sweep. 2 less games eh? why stop there? When you consider Zetterberg completely shutting down crosby 2 games in a row you might as well say 4 less games.

Why fawn over him like that? Like someone posting as douchey as you do is going to make people see him in the same light you see him. If he really was as great as you want to think he wouldn't need people like you constantly defending him.

Is it really that hard to fathom that fans of other teams will only concede that crosby is good and not the greatest?

(Vote yes on Prop. 1)

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

There are plenty of players with the offensive pizazz to match Sid. And Sid isn't going to win a Selke anytime soon.

That being said....and this is usually harolsnepsts job, the kid may not be the next Gretzky, but he's the closest thing we've seen to it in 20 years. Not Lindros, not Lecavalier, not Spezza or even our beloved Datsyuk and Zetterberg managed to do what he did coming out of junior.

Sick of having him thrust down your throat? Sick of people claiming he's the next Gretzky? Well quit yur ******* bitching b/c there's never gonna be another Gretzky but nobody else on this planet has come any closer to starting off like Gretz than Crosby.

Check some facts and check yourselves.

Youngest player in NHL history to score 100 points

Youngest player in NHL history to record 200 career points at age 19!!!!!

First rookie ever to record 100 points and 100 PIM's in same season

Youngest player to record back to back 100 point seasons

Youngest player ever voted to All Star game

Youngest player to ever win Art Ross

Youngest player to ever win Hart trophy

Youngest player to ever win Lester Pearson

Youngest player ever selected to First All Star Team

Youngest Captain in NHL history

So what if he isn't the next Gretzky. People who regurgitate that song over and over are simpletons. Think outside the ******* box people. He's the closest thing to a Gretzky we've had.

And no, i'm not claiming him to be the best player in the game. We all know that's Pavel Datsyuk.

[FirstSamuel1745 0]

Look, the most important thing concerning his comments is that it takes the Caps-Pens rivalry to a new level. Whether he is right or not (and I'm torn about it personally), the Pens and Caps are developing some bad blood between them. This is a good thing for the NHL - its two biggest stars (Crosby and Ovechkin) on two teams that can't stand one another, with ample support players (Malkin and Semin). This is what the NHL needs right now. Thanks Alex!

[CrossoverThrash 0]

I want to see Crosby fight Ovechkin.

[Chase 0]

I just got done reading the Hockey Manifesto, My Struggle to Make the NHL the NBA by Dr. Gary Bettman, the official book of ture hockey facts, here are a few key points and the true facts explaining them:

A. Crosby is the best player in the league - This is because no matter what, even if he risks an icing he still knows every empty netter counts and in the end, what would the game be without empty netters with .5 seconds left in the game, it also states that a secondary assist on an empty net goal is as distinguished if not more distinguished than a secondary assist at even strength. He has the uncanny ability to get into the pre-picked for mental weakness referees' heads. He also has the uncanny ability to usurp and annoy Sir Peter Forsberg, the once greatest diver now overshadowed by YHWH on high, Sydney Crosby.

B. Forwards do not have to be good defensively - In fact defensive play is dishonorable. See Malkin's goal agianst the Flyers last year. Any goal that is scored on a cherry pick shall be celebrated automatically as the best goal of the year up to that point excluding other marvelous cherry-pick goals. It would also be good to implement an extra point to the team who gives up the cherry pick for good sportsmanship to allow the cherry to be picked. There is also a clause stating that Sydney Crosby is too good for defense.

C - If you have a large, long nose, you should stick it in Sydney Crosby's ****** - It has that wonderful smell of menstrual fluid every time you sniff. It is also considered a delicacy amongst canadian media personnel specifically Pierre McGuire to drink the fluid to improve whining abilities.

D - 21 is 21 is 21 is 21 and in the NHL thats underage, you cannot be considered a full-flight player until you reach at least 26 years of age until then you will still be considered a rookie.

it was a good book, i suggest you all read it, i think you can get it at barnes and noble.

FAIL

Edited November 1, 2008 by Chase

[b.shanafan14 733]

The point I took away from this is Semin saying essentially: "Crosby has talent and can rack up points, but nothing to justify ignoring a league of superstars, some of which are much more fun to watch (*cough*Ovechkin*cough*) and focus solely on a single young player for 90% of all advertisements."

I really don't see how anyone can argue with that. Datsyuk might not be 21 or lead the league in scoring, but he is a blast to watch because of pure skill. Ovechkin has been Crosby's more exciting, harder hitting, better goal scoring equivalent for years and he hasn't gotten an iota near as much press as Crosby.

Is Crosby a great player? Yes. So great that he should be 90% of the NHL's face? Hell no. He's been force fed to us hardcore fans, and fair or not fair, some of us resent him for it. (In the first video below, tell me who the NHL portrays as the cup winner and franchise with the most wide-spread fanbase, the Wings or the Pens? And how many times do you see Crosby and 87 in a minute?)

Edited November 1, 2008 by b.shanafan14

[edicius 3,269]

I want to see Crosby fight Ovechkin.

Crosby would get his ass handed to him in a match-up like that.

So yes, I want to see that too.

[Guest Shoreline]

Seconded. No denying that Sid is a great player. But was Wayne Gretzky marketed back in the day to the point where people would immediately turn the channel once an ad featuring him came on as such is the case with Sid? Every 10 seconds in the Finals, we'd hear "Crosby Crosby Crosby", even when the Wings shut out the Penguins in Games 1 and 2. I flipped the channel every Crosby commercial there was, and while I agree that he is an excellent marketing tool for the NHL, they need to start marketing other players like Thornton, Iginla, Ovechkin, Zetterberg, Lecavalier, as well as younger guys like Stamkos and Kane, rather than all Crosby all the time.

True, there's lots of talent to market.

I'm pretty amazed you made sense of that post. I usually have a penchant for not posting when drunk and stoned.

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Semin is an idiot. He isn't even half the player Crosby is.

This doesn't even make sense -

"I think that if you take any player, even if he is "dead wood," and start promoting him, you'll get a star," he told Yahoo! Sports. "Especially if he scores 100 points."

Sometimes you should just keep your mouth shut. My prediction - Crosby lights up the Caps' next time they play. The last thing you should do is give players motivation to play better against you. It just doesn't make sense - that's a rookie move by Semin. Once he scores more then 80pts in this league he can start talking some s***.

[akustyk 84]

Semin is an idiot. He isn't even half the player Crosby is.

This doesn't even make sense -

nope, he isn't idiot and he makes perfect sense.

what is the problem is people who just can't read English or have not enough

brains to understand what they're hearing/reading.

Sometimes you should just keep your mouth shut. My prediction - Crosby lights up the Caps' next time they play. The last thing you should do is give players motivation to play better against you. It just doesn't make sense - that's a rookie move by Semin. Once he scores more then 80pts in this league he can start talking some s***.

which essentially has NOTHING to do with what Semin said. the only thing this

guy ranted is that US/Canadian media people have brown noses from sticking

them right into Crosby's ass. and he's dead on because whenever you turn some

national televised game you can bet there's gonna by Sindy commercial, Sindy

interview, Sindy praise, ... even if he has nothing to do with whomever is playing

that day be it even remotely. because NHL marketing decided to push him through

in our mouth every single time it's possible.

in fact Semin is kind enough here to use Kane as counterexample instead of

Ovechkin whom he could easily used in this place. because both are at least

as deserving the marketing hype the NHL built around Crosby.

Semin is rude with his "What's so special about?". but the rest of his talk is right

on topic. and it's nice someone finally told it loud that the league is more than

just Sindy and that he's good but he's not head and shoulders above all other

players in this league who don't get even 10% of Crosby's recognition. which is

a big slap in the face from the media to all those hard working guys out there

who play their hearts out every game only to see how their effort is ignored

just because the same day Sindy Crosby chose to fart and it's more important.

yes, I'm extreme and over reacting but you get the picture.

the only bad thing about Semin's rant is that media ppl, unlike most of their

readers, are not dumb and will understand this was against them. and they

will now milk Semin story and use this to pump the public before each Caps-Pens

game but when it gets old story they will show their backs to Semin to punish

him. which's bad because he also deserves recognition for his nice package

of skills.

[wingslionstigers 12]

Crosbys one of the Penguins best players and thats all he is. When i watch Pens the guys good but i never found myself saying Crosbys the best in the league. Hes a damn good player but hes not that good.

[chrisdetroit 189]

There are plenty of players with the offensive pizazz to match Sid. And Sid isn't going to win a Selke anytime soon.

That being said....and this is usually harolsnepsts job, the kid may not be the next Gretzky, but he's the closest thing we've seen to it in 20 years. Not Lindros, not Lecavalier, not Spezza or even our beloved Datsyuk and Zetterberg managed to do what he did coming out of junior.

Sick of having him thrust down your throat? Sick of people claiming he's the next Gretzky? Well quit yur ******* bitching b/c there's never gonna be another Gretzky but nobody else on this planet has come any closer to starting off like Gretz than Crosby.

Check some facts and check yourselves.

Youngest player in NHL history to score 100 points

Youngest player in NHL history to record 200 career points at age 19!!!!!

First rookie ever to record 100 points and 100 PIM's in same season

Youngest player to record back to back 100 point seasons

Youngest player ever voted to All Star game

Youngest player to ever win Art Ross

Youngest player to ever win Hart trophy

Youngest player to ever win Lester Pearson

Youngest player ever selected to First All Star Team

Youngest Captain in NHL history

So what if he isn't the next Gretzky. People who regurgitate that song over and over are simpletons. Think outside the ******* box people. He's the closest thing to a Gretzky we've had.

And no, i'm not claiming him to be the best player in the game. We all know that's Pavel Datsyuk.

Now that is just stupid. You are quoting 10 records and 9 of them are based on his birthday.

Who cares what year he was born.

He's undeniably a great offensive player but he is not Wayne Gretsky and he has a way to go to be as good defensivly as he is offesively.

But please stop quoting "birthday" records they are meaninless. "youngest captain in NHL history" yea, that means alot.

[chrisdetroit 189]

well said.

I think he just said what 99% percent of hockey fans worldwide would like to say:

we're fed up with Crosby shoven into our arses every time it's remotely possible. if this

makes the league realize there are other stars in NHL than just Sid the Whiner I'm all

for it.

not to take anything of Crosby skills but last couple of season this guy's been for the

NHL what Obama is this October for USA - you're affraid to open a can of food because

you're afraid he's gonna be there. and Crosby is in fact just one of many great players

in this league. not head and shoulders above the rest - in fact he's not even the best

out there

Just like Obama...

[chrisdetroit 189]

Crosby has been one of the best offensive players in the league since he was 18, he's now 21 and arguably the best player in the world. He's such a nice guy to boot. Sometimes his emotions get the best of him on the ice but isn't that what makes the sport so great? Everything hockey is going to be related to Sidney Crosby for the next 15-20 years so get used to it... he deserves all the hype he gets and he handles it so well for such a young guy

That's why the hockey writers gave him all those NHL awards last year, you know the selke, the art ross, the...

Oh wait he didn't get any of them ....wonder why. Maybe not enough hype. No, that's not it...

Maybe he isn't the best in the world....

[CrossoverThrash 0]

If Crosby played in the west, different story, thats one reason why guys like iginla, datsyuk, Zetterberg are better than him. In theory, Dan Boyle should already have 3000 points this year but he's looking average just cause hes playing in the west now.

[Tr!PoD#19 524]

That's why the hockey writers gave him all those NHL awards last year, you know the selke, the art ross, the...

Oh wait he didn't get any of them ....wonder why. Maybe not enough hype. No, that's not it...

Maybe he isn't the best in the world....

Maybe because he only played 53 games?

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Semin is a clueless idiot who sounds like some basketball fan when he talks about hockey.

If he truly said these things, then he's a moron as is anyone else who doubts Crosby's talent and ability.

My only problem with Crosby is his whining. His talent and ability shouldn't be questioned. It's one thing when ignorant fans on this forum question his ability, but when an actual player does it, it becomes mind boggling because I'd expect more intelligence from a fellow player.

Thats the thing though. He said Crosby was talented. He just said Crosby wasn't interesting. I'm pretty sure what he means by that is its not about 115 points and being a great offensive player. Its about gettting 80-90 points and being able to pull off sick moves, dangle and deke.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Semin is an idiot. He isn't even half the player Crosby is.

This doesn't even make sense -

Sometimes you should just keep your mouth shut. My prediction - Crosby lights up the Caps' next time they play. The last thing you should do is give players motivation to play better against you. It just doesn't make sense - that's a rookie move by Semin. Once he scores more then 80pts in this league he can start talking some s***.

1. Caps fans and others say Semin has more raw talent than Ovechkin does.

2. Hes working with a translator.

[Reds4Life 51]

Maybe because he only played 53 games?

Why should THAT be considered as a plus for Crosby?

Crosby is boring player to watch, he is boring to listen to. Some people are sick of the Crosby-mania. Some people think he is not the best player in the game. Simple as that.

[CrossoverThrash 0]

Semin can definately snipe better than crosby, there was one time i think in the olympics where Semin just freaking wired a wrist shot from the blueline right into the top corner no chance for the goalie who may have been Lundquist i dont remember. he can also roof it at any given point on the ice. Crosby is definately better but Semin is definately alot funner to watch than crosby and semin can still be considered somewhat of an elite forward. Semin may have the best wrist shot in the league. Crosby is well rounded offensively although ive never really seen him have a highlight reel goal or just light it up like semin does. prople dont realize how many empty nets and secondary assists crosby gets and how many garbage goals he gets by sitting in the same spot every time next to the goal where retarded dmen don't bother to cover him. The one thing crosby is elite is his ability to pass into the slot, but in all joe thornton is better than him. i dont think crosby is #1 at anything in this league, but hes near the top in enough of them for him to be a top 10 player but no where near #1.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Thats the thing though. He said Crosby was talented. He just said Crosby wasn't interesting. I'm pretty sure what he means by that is its not about 115 points and being a great offensive player. Its about gettting 80-90 points and being able to pull off sick moves, dangle and deke.

I'm thinking most GM's and coaches would rather have the boring 115 points.

Why should THAT be considered as a plus for Crosby?

Crosby is boring player to watch, he is boring to listen to. Some people are sick of the Crosby-mania. Some people think he is not the best player in the game. Simple as that.

I get being totally sick of the Crosby hype, which he has little control over, but I don't get how he's a boring player to watch. He works hard every shift and goes nose first into corners and high traffic areas.

Nick Lidstrom is boring to watch. He's honestly one of the most boring players to watch I could probably think of. But I sure as well wouldn't want him anywhere else than on the Detroit blueline.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Now that is just stupid. You are quoting 10 records and 9 of them are based on his birthday.

Who cares what year he was born.

He's undeniably a great offensive player but he is not Wayne Gretsky and he has a way to go to be as good defensivly as he is offesively.

But please stop quoting "birthday" records they are meaninless. "youngest captain in NHL history" yea, that means alot.

Ok. remove the birthday.

How about just winning the Art Ross, Lester B. Pearson, Hart, and being a 1st all-star his second year in the league? If you think that's somehow not impressive and doesn't set him apart from most of the league, I think you're a little blinded by hate for him.

Honestly he's boring as hell in interviews, and he was really irritating in the finals between him and his coach crying about interference. But he's still an incredibly talented player that hasn't come along in a long while.

That's why the hockey writers gave him all those NHL awards last year, you know the selke, the art ross, the...

Oh wait he didn't get any of them ....wonder why. Maybe not enough hype. No, that's not it...

Maybe he isn't the best in the world....

You do know that he won the Art Ross, Lester B. Pearson, and the Hart the year before?

(The pearson of course being voted on by his fellow hockey players, not sportswriters)

Crosby's not gonna get close to the Selke for a while. But I'm pretty confident he could change his game to win one. They love giving those out because of offense, he's just got to become a better two-way forward. And he already has most of the skills that help in that department.