Osgood is the worst starting goalie in the league
Posted 29 November 2008 - 05:29 AM
Posted 29 November 2008 - 05:35 AM
Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:34 AM
Agreed. That said, he's not going anywhere given our cap situation and there is no way we'd get a better goalie for his value. Luckily Conklin is great and we have Jimmy to back him up as well if anything were to happen with Ozzie.
If this continues I guarantee Conklin would start in playoffs.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:50 AM
Posted 29 November 2008 - 08:20 AM
Worst starting goalie in the league is a bit of a stretch.
He's been bad some, so has the defense as well. A little bit of Column A, a little bit of Column B.
Of the center ice gaffe, every goalie lets in a brainfart soft goalie from time to time no matter how good or bad the goalie might be. This will have little/nothing to do with the ZOMG OZZIE LET IN CENTER ICE GOALS back in 1998.
While nobody can predict the future and say that Osgood will completely come back to form of last playoffs or whether he'll completely fall in the crapper, if he was the worst starting goalie in the league he would've been out of the NHL a long time ago.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 08:21 AM
While Conklin has looked better than Osgood, he hasn't looked at that great, baring a few exceptions. He may need a bit more time in net, but he consistently overplays situations which can create an unnecessary rebound or put him out of position. He has been a journeyman backup/poor-man's starter for a reason. He can handle the regular season but isn't exceptionally great in the playoffs or meaningful regular season games (if there are any).
Osgood will be your playoff starter or will take a majority of playoff starts. That I guarantee, baring any injuries.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 09:27 AM
I agree i love osgood but it's time to talk the truth, his a fan favorite that's why his not being attacked that much. Some people got to open their eyes and realise conklin is playing much better as of now. Don't look at the habs game he got scored on 3 goals..., one of those goals hit stuart's leg no chance to save... anyways osgood has lost his touch since winning the cup.
* People must realize that just cause it's their favorite player that his not always the best player ...
Edited by KrazyGangsta, 29 November 2008 - 09:28 AM.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 09:29 AM
Edited by Shoreline, 29 November 2008 - 09:32 AM.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 10:32 AM
I like Ozzie, but I truly do think some of his results (wins) are a little inflated beyond what his play would suggest. He's way up there on the career list, but I don' think he's way up there with the best goalies all time. Take this year for example, he hasn't really played that well, yet he has a record of 9-1-4.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 10:36 AM
Conklin will get the starting spot if this continues.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 10:40 AM
I men it's in effen November. Lets talk about this seriously in February when we dont have a better record then 27 other teams or whatever the amount is.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 10:45 AM
Ozzie's stats have, unfortunately, not been good. Has he let in some softies or just some goals he'd like back? Sure. Have some unbeatable shots gone past him? Of course. Has he made some fantastic game-savers also? Yes.
Now, substitute Conklin into all of those statements. Still holds true, yes? You could say that for nearly ANY tender in the league.
The main difference is the stats right now. However, Ozzie's also 9-1-4. Conklin's 6-2-0.
Just for comparison, let's look at some other goaltenders around the league that are (or have been, in Turco's case) considered more elite:
Giguere: 8-7-2, 3.01 GAA, .907 SV%
Turco: 6-10-4, 3.64 GAA, .866 SV%
Kiprusoff: 13-8-1, 3.14 GAA, .893 SV%
Fleury: 8-3-2, 2.86 GAA, .907 SV%
And now Ozzie and Conklin:
Osgood: 9-1-4, 3.24 GAA, .878 SV%
Conklin: 6-2-0, 2.49 GAA, .914 SV%
There's a trend going on here - goaltending stats are down across the board. Ozzie's not the only casualty. Doesn't mean Conks isn't playing well - he is. And he IS playing better than Ozzie.
Okay then, let's just go by stats (and not winning record) to show who's the best of the best in the league. Here are your names:
Thomas (BOS), Boucher (SJ), Auld (OTT), Sabourin (PIT), Hiller (ANA), Anderson (FLA), Smith (TB).
Tampa Bay? Florida? OTTAWA?
Oh well. Guess we might as well just hand the Cup to them right now.
Edited by edicius, 29 November 2008 - 10:49 AM.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 10:51 AM
Posted 29 November 2008 - 10:58 AM
I'd trade Ozzie for Turco right now- only because Turco's a fairly young All-Star goalie that's struggling but is too damn talented to keep strugling. Incidentally, Ozzie's too talented and focused to maintain these poor numbers. He'll bounce back by the time April rolls around.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 11:13 AM
Posted 29 November 2008 - 11:20 AM
The season is only 25% over. Let's see how Ozzie plays the remaining 75%. Conklinn is not going to start in the playoffs unless Ozzie is injured.
Ozzie has a bit of a Stanley Cup hangover but he will be fine.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 11:23 AM
You would? Turco has never been able to win in the playoffs. Obvioulsy Ozzie has had some great playoff runs including last year's Stanley cup. No way I'd take Turco over Ozzie.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 11:30 AM
It's the exact opposite this year, mental mistakes, technical mistakes. It just doesn't seem like his head is in the game.
Posted 29 November 2008 - 11:32 AM
I couldn't agree more... Oz knows he's gotta be better and I think he will break out of this funk soon. Its too early to discuss bringing up Howard and moving Conks to #1... The good thing about the wings is they do have options and talent in the orginization and come the end of the year when it counts the best players will be on the ice. Keep in mind, Hasek was pulled in the Nashville series and never saw the ice again. Have faith in Babs and more importantly have faith that Oz will get a lift and get goin.
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