12/10 GDT: Red Wings 4, Flames 3 (OT)

[Guest Crymson]

It's hard to fathom how awful of a response this was. Hysteria? Are you seeing the same team I am out there getting beaten up on the ice? Hello?! They don't have the attitude. They don't have anyone consistent enough to respond to teams physically throwing their weight around on the team, and it was evident by every single snow shower Conklin received during the game, every after-the-whistle series of crosschecks against teammates that went without a response to make the team focus on playing the skill game. Hope you were watching. Teams knowing they could beat up on the Wings has knocked them out of the playoffs several times recently, against Anaheim, against Edmonton, against Calgary.

And if it weren't obvious enough, picking up a physical forward who can raise some hell means getting rid of at least one person. You know, because there's no "open" slot for a forward, like we're playing with one open slot for the hell of it.

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[Doggy 130]

Actually- it deflected over the net off of Nik. TSN showed the replay from behind the net and you see Lidstrom is in front of the puck and deflects it a bit upward.

Well in that case I retract my statement. I thought he just blew it. Still Bert sucks.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Great comeback last night. Raffy, Stewie, and Cleary were fantastic last night. As was Lids.

GO WINGS!

[HOCKEY MATTERS 167]

It's hard to fathom how awful of a response this was. Hysteria? Are you seeing the same team I am out there getting beaten up on the ice? Hello?! They don't have the attitude. They don't have anyone consistent enough to respond to teams physically throwing their weight around on the team, and it was evident by every single snow shower Conklin received during the game, every after-the-whistle series of crosschecks against teammates that went without a response to make the team focus on playing the skill game. Hope you were watching. Teams knowing they could beat up on the Wings has knocked them out of the playoffs several times recently, against Anaheim, against Edmonton, against Calgary.

And if it weren't obvious enough, picking up a physical forward who can raise some hell means getting rid of at least one person. You know, because there's no "open" slot for a forward, like we're playing with one open slot for the hell of it.

Dear Sweet Jesus ... you are annoying.

[Guest Shoreline]

Dear Sweet Jesus ... you are annoying.

Happiness is a click away.

Well in that case I retract my statement. I thought he just blew it. Still Bert sucks.

Indeed.

Edited December 11, 2008 by Shoreline

[dicksmack 33]

We suck, and yet we win... for now...

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

Dear Sweet Jesus ... you are annoying.

yeah i think he has to argue with everyone no matter what they say. i bet you could agree with him on something and he would find a way to give some smart ass comment about it. he tries to bully his way through this forum. just use that link he put up and put him on ignore. it does work.

[egroen 384]

That goal in OT was a thing of beauty with Datsyuk and Lidstrom. Just picture-perfect.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

It's hard to fathom how awful of a response this was. Hysteria? Are you seeing the same team I am out there getting beaten up on the ice? Hello?! They don't have the attitude. They don't have anyone consistent enough to respond to teams physically throwing their weight around on the team, and it was evident by every single snow shower Conklin received during the game, every after-the-whistle series of crosschecks against teammates that went without a response to make the team focus on playing the skill game. Hope you were watching. Teams knowing they could beat up on the Wings has knocked them out of the playoffs several times recently, against Anaheim, against Edmonton, against Calgary.

And if it weren't obvious enough, picking up a physical forward who can raise some hell means getting rid of at least one person. You know, because there's no "open" slot for a forward, like we're playing with one open slot for the hell of it.

You know whats hilarious about this statement? You use Anaheim, Edmonton and Calgary as a way to prove your point yet the team that won the Cup last year was more heavily European than any of those years you just listed. Get a clue.

[Johnny Law 15]

I seriously think that they believe they can score almost at will. When they went down 3-1 they put on a dominant performance, for those 8 minutes or so they owned the flames. After that performance you knew they had the OT winner.

Maybe the new lines will help to keep the tempo up, I liked the Z/Hossa line.

[CrossoverThrash 0]

Those complaining about the physicality should know that Datsyuk had the hardest hit in the game and not a flames player so shut up about that. And did anyone else notice that it was Nystrom everytime after the whistle, who cares about that nobody hes not gonna do anything to you but look at you with his goofy ass face.

[Opie 308]

Those complaining about the physicality should know that Datsyuk had the hardest hit in the game and not a flames player so shut up about that. And did anyone else notice that it was Nystrom everytime after the whistle, who cares about that nobody hes not gonna do anything to you but look at you with his goofy ass face.

So what you are telling me is that not only is the European game affecting/influencing the NA game but the NA game may be affecting/influencing the European style!

Go figure right.

BTW I am not dogging on your post actually agreeing with it!

[eva unit zero 271]

a review of OT by a flames fan off their boards.

OT

Good flow, but it was all Detroit, with a couple Flames chances. Tobasco was again the story as he simply stood on his head for the greater pert of the extra frame. And that shot by Lidstrom was a howitzer and no Fault of McE's that it went it.

howitzer? i love it!!

we did dominate OT, and their goalie was the only reason it was prolonged. another close game by the wings, but they sure showed alot of gusto coming back. ive accepted that almost every game is gonna be a battle, so this win to me was great. is that a bad thing?

The last player I heard the term "howitzer" applied to in a game at Joe Louis was Steve Chiasson. That's old-school lingo right there.

[Guest Crymson]

You know whats hilarious about this statement? You use Anaheim, Edmonton and Calgary as a way to prove your point yet the team that won the Cup last year was more heavily European than any of those years you just listed. Get a clue.

I think that complaint of his has become rather robotic for some fans. Naturally, they don't really look at such CRAZY things as "history" or "data" when drawing conclusions.

[j.hoop 64]

The last player I heard the term "howitzer" applied to in a game at Joe Louis was Steve Chiasson. That's old-school lingo right there.

a term i will not soon forget

[Guest Shoreline]

You know whats hilarious about this statement? You use Anaheim, Edmonton and Calgary as a way to prove your point yet the team that won the Cup last year was more heavily European than any of those years you just listed. Get a clue.

Who said anything about European vs. anything else? I don't care where they come from. When a team knows they can beat up on you, especially in the tenure of a playoff series, with no retribution, they do, and it wears a team down...

I think that complaint of his has become rather robotic for some fans. Naturally, they don't really look at such CRAZY things as "history" or "data" when drawing conclusions.

.. and of course, history, being the Ducks, Flames, and Oilers, shows that. These are 3 teams that eliminated the Wings -- 4 years total. Looking at, at very least, 50% of the Wings playoffs right there, losing to physical teams. Sucks to make an assertion that has ZERO validity. Can't really cite history being on your side if it isn't.

Edited December 12, 2008 by Shoreline

[OsGOD 3]

The last player I heard the term "howitzer" applied to in a game at Joe Louis was Steve Chiasson. That's old-school lingo right there.

may he RIP

yea thats way old school talkin'

[CrossoverThrash 0]

Did FSN replay the Datsyuk hit? if so can someone post to youtube?

[hokike 1]

Who said anything about European vs. anything else? I don't care where they come from. When a team knows they can beat up on you, especially in the tenure of a playoff series, with no retribution, they do, and it wears a team down...

.. and of course, history, being the Ducks, Flames, and Oilers, shows that. These are 3 teams that eliminated the Wings -- 4 years total. Looking at, at very least, 50% of the Wings playoffs right there, losing to physical teams. Sucks to make an assertion that has ZERO validity. Can't really cite history being on your side if it isn't.

do you know how many times those "tuffie" teams have lost to "soft" teams in POs?

(You can bring up ANY data you want for backing up you claims...)

Even playing half assed games "soft" Red Wings has already beaten "tough" Ducks, flames, Oilers, et al, and those "tough" teams tried their best.

Ain't worried at all. Btw, check stats, RW has outhitted beforementioned trio.

[Guest Shoreline]

do you know how many times those "tuffie" teams have lost to "soft" teams in POs?

Actually, I did mention the teams entirely built on that like Nashville DO exit early. However, those teams with a rather large physical play have notably burned the Wings.

(You can bring up ANY data you want for backing up you claims...)

Even playing half assed games "soft" Red Wings has already beaten "tough" Ducks, flames, Oilers, et al, and those "tough" teams tried their best.

Ain't worried at all. Btw, check stats, RW has outhitted beforementioned trio.

Yeah I know, no concern at all until elimination. Go ahead and ignore just about all early non-cup winning exits the Wings had this decade were to tough teams who play a very big physical game, beating up on the Wings, as well as putting it in the back of the net.