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I wanted to get everyones opinion on this one. Do you think that the Wings are entering their seasonal slump or are they going to recover and return to form on Saturday against the Caps? I want to believe that is is hiccup, but when Kopecky gets more ice time than Hudler, idk what to believe.

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Hiccup. Downey will be getting Kopy's time and things will rev up- from the 4th line up.

Then Stewie comes back and bye-bye Downey :(

But by then, the guys will have remembered how to hit and maybe throw down a bit, or at least facewash in self-defence.

Hank will return, Dats and Lids are better than they have been. Hossa & Homer still looking good. We'll be back on track in no time.

And if we don't then we will have had the adversity through which we must battle that brings us together and gives us the strength and courage to prevail. <---That's so sappy I could yak.

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I wanted to get everyones opinion on this one. Do you think that the Wings are entering their seasonal slump or are they going to recover and return to form on Saturday against the Caps? I want to believe that is is hiccup, but when Kopecky gets more ice time than Hudler, idk what to believe.

First of all I'd just like to say I'm a long-time lurker, first-time poster, so hello to all.

As far as slumping goes, yeah, we are definitely there, and although some of it is due to injuries and BS suspensions, we have not been playing with much sustained passion. Also only playing 4 home games out of 13 total this month probably isn't helping, either. But what is more disturbing overall is this: through 48 games played, the Wings have allowed 3 or more goals 32 times! That's 2/3 of the games we've played so far, although we have managed to go 15-10-7 in those games. But if this trend continues, it will catch up with us. Hope we right the ship soon.

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What's this about a seasonal slump?? Last year's slump only happen after our entire defensive corps were decimated by injuries. We're talking about a 4-game losing streak here....almost every team in the league will have at least 1 throughout the season. Not a big deal....

No team can possibly be expected to continue to roll all season long...San Jose will hit bumps in the road, just like the Wings are right now. Let's also not forget they just got back from a week off, and that they've been away from Joe Louis for 19 days since their last home game.

I'd have to say that there's no need for concern. The only thing that I think needs to be addressed, is the goaltending position. I think it's time for Babcock to give Conks his shot at being the starter on a regular basis, as Ozzie just isn't seeming to turn things around.

Long story short, once we're playing with a full lineup (ie; Hank and Stuart back in) we'll be fine, and if that means that we're the #2 West seed heading in to the playoffs, that's fine with me.

It's a long season, but when the dust settles, the Wings will be standing near, if not at, the top.

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4 games in a row is rough. The defense is extremely complacent and players aren't directing enough shots at the net. Everyone seems unsure out there, except Pavel that is. Tonite on the PP they tried to force plays that weren't there instead of being patient. Kronwall has been dreadful this season, huge disappointment after the playoffs he had. Guy turns over the puck constantly and really seems to lack jump a lot of the time. Overall disappointing run, need to get back to playing Red Wing hockey, shots on goal, crashing the net, own-zone responsibility. Seems the Wings have turned over the puck most of the time when trying to force a break out or stretch pass from behind their own goal and it gets picked and ends of in their net. And don't get me started on Chelios right now...

Oh well, as pjgj13 said, better to slump now than later, happened last year.

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The Red Wings will be fine. They start playing meaningful games in April, not January. It's frustrating to watch, but it's tough for the defending champs to play with full intensity during the regular season coming off a championship. It's not an excuse for poor play - it's just human nature to become complacent after hitting the ultimate goal. I have my concerns right now, but I wouldn't bet against this team when the playoffs roll around.

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What's this about a seasonal slump?? Last year's slump only happen after our entire defensive corps were decimated by injuries. We're talking about a 4-game losing streak here....almost every team in the league will have at least 1 throughout the season. Not a big deal....

No team can possibly be expected to continue to roll all season long...San Jose will hit bumps in the road, just like the Wings are right now. Let's also not forget they just got back from a week off, and that they've been away from Joe Louis for 19 days since their last home game.

I'd have to say that there's no need for concern. The only thing that I think needs to be addressed, is the goaltending position. I think it's time for Babcock to give Conks his shot at being the starter on a regular basis, as Ozzie just isn't seeming to turn things around.

Long story short, once we're playing with a full lineup (ie; Hank and Stuart back in) we'll be fine, and if that means that we're the #2 West seed heading in to the playoffs, that's fine with me.

It's a long season, but when the dust settles, the Wings will be standing near, if not at, the top.

i'd like to agree with you, but i'll believe it when i see it.

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it'll be good for us to be reminded that we need to work to win every game

what's more, i think it'll be good if san jose and boston continue to ride the unicorn of endless wins and see everything through rose-coloured glasses, believing that the wins will just come.

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Yeah, I was thinking this might be our annual "mid season slump"

We'll be fine after a few more games and get back into the swing of things, and everything will be fine come April and we'll make the playoffs like we always do.

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Dallas was worse 2 periods of hockey I've seen in a long time... hopefully Hank's new contract will mean he'll be thinking less about signing and more about getting his game back on track but apart from that I don't know what's going to happen. Just seems like there isn't much desire. He NEEDS to go back to ZDH line and in all fairness Kopecky can't score, can't create chances... he's just a big body to intimidate but if that's the case I'd prefer Downey.

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Could be the start of a losing 10 of 11 games type skid that precipitates the winning of a Stanely Cup (see February slide of the 07-08 season).

Correct. Last season's losing streaks, 3 or more:

7-17 February, 6 games

22-29 February, 4 games

11-17 November, 3 games

10-15 January, 3 games.

The two losing streaks in Janaury were split by one win.

Just for fun the other night, I took the time to check on the Club's record following the the All-Star / Olympic break, in an 82-game schedule. The Club's best finish was in 1995-96, going 30W-4L-4T in their last 38 games. Their worst finish was last season, going 13W-10L-1OTL-1SOL in their last 25 games, marginally being just worse then 1998-99 (percentage wise), when they were 12W-9L-3T in their last 24 games. And, they did all right last season, agreed?

All it takes is one win to start a new streak.

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i'd like to agree with you, but i'll believe it when i see it.

I won't lie...I'm saying that partially to convince myself that they will in fact hit a bump in the road at some point, because if they don't, the Red Wings league record of 62 regular season victories is in jeopardy.

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Could be the start of a losing 10 of 11 games type skid that precipitates the winning of a Stanely Cup (see February slide of the 07-08 season).

I agree. It's a bump in the road, but in the end we'll come out a stronger better team for it.

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I don't think they're playing significantly better or worse than they've been playing all year. The defensive play is sloppy and we're not scoring 5+ goals every game. That happens, but I wouldn't call it a slump. As I said in another thread, the problems start and end with defense and they've been the same all year. If they find a way to turn that around we'll be fine. Benching one guy or making trades isn't going to fix this. It's a team issue and it's mostly mental right now as far as I can see. They've just got to find a way to work it out and play smarter. If they don't, then realistically we'll be lucky to make it out of the first round.

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